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Old 07-21-2011 | 09:02 PM
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Very Bag Guy: blackonblackeight

This ******* tried to scam me $400 over paypal for some wheels.
Old 07-21-2011 | 09:40 PM
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The userid blackonblackeight does not exist on rx8club. Any details? Link to thread?
Old 07-21-2011 | 10:21 PM
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My guess is that the user deleted his part out thread.

It's the same member that tried to scam me a while ago but with a different name. The name associated with his email account was Miguel T something.
Old 07-21-2011 | 10:27 PM
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I remember seeing that thread!
Old 07-21-2011 | 10:30 PM
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Well he can't delete his own account.

Weird, closest I could find

https://www.rx8club.com/members/blackonblackrx8-52852/

Read.

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-parts-sale-wanted-44/buyers-sellers-smart-219285/

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Old 09-02-2011 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Stars25
My guess is that the user deleted his part out thread.

It's the same member that tried to scam me a while ago but with a different name. The name associated with his email account was Miguel T something.


Yeahhh! that's him, he was selling Konig Lace rims and I sent him the money and he never sent them so we had to contact the police department where he from and we ended up getting our money back.
Old 09-02-2011 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by camcenters
Yeahhh! that's him, he was selling Konig Lace rims and I sent him the money and he never sent them so we had to contact the police department where he from and we ended up getting our money back.
Did you prosecute?
Old 09-02-2011 | 11:45 PM
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https://www.rx8club.com/members/blackonblackeight-78195/

^^^ that was the guy. He was fishier than hell when talking business.
Old 09-07-2011 | 04:30 PM
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I am in the process of buying a part from an individual named Miguel Tirado.
His ID is Mazda Speed2005. The intial paypal was frozen due to suspicious buyer.
He returned the paypal payment since that was all he could do and now wants me to sent payment to another paypal account.
Any suggestions on how not to be scammed.
He could not produce a photo of the part as it was in the mail dock.
I did get a generic photo od an RX-8
Old 09-07-2011 | 04:34 PM
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Simple way to avoid being scammed in this.


Take your money elsewhere.

No pictures by itself is a no-go on purchase from someone you don't know personally. Add to that suspicious paypal flag, in a thread where he is apparently called out for scamming elsewhere, you would be functionally retarded to try to continue purchasing something from him.
Old 09-07-2011 | 04:38 PM
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^well said!
Why even consider doing business?
Old 09-07-2011 | 05:04 PM
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Fool me once.....

wtf, never mind.
Old 09-07-2011 | 05:07 PM
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How many usernames has this guy had? Have any of them been banned before? I remember a Miguel T ripping people off before.
Old 09-07-2011 | 05:14 PM
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there honestly has to be something a user has to do before being allowed to sell, provide some sort of id, or use an escrow service or at least have a 100 post count, so people can see the type of posts he makes and try to see a pattern if hes only posting to get his post count up and then selling stuff as soon as he hits 100 posts..
Old 09-07-2011 | 05:47 PM
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someone told me that mods have the power to ban ip addresses or something like that? if so, just ban his ip address
Old 09-07-2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by darnellm
He could not produce a photo of the part as it was in the mail dock.
I did get a generic photo od an RX-8
Same exact guy as stated by op. I remember he gave me and a few other members that exact same response. If they cant prove they have the part, they clearly dont have the part. Simple as not sending anything to a person like that really

Originally Posted by dlum125
someone told me that mods have the power to ban ip addresses or something like that? if so, just ban his ip address
It'd be nice if mods could ip ban a person from at least the selling section of the forum...in a perfect world I guess
Old 09-07-2011 | 05:59 PM
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The Admins can IP ban, the Mods can only username ban.

Admins are scarce around here....
Old 09-07-2011 | 08:58 PM
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IP bans don't mean squat, because a determined scammer will just use a proxy or some VPN.
Old 09-07-2011 | 09:35 PM
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beware of Kyle Payne...kpayne804@gmail.com...fluke. I am learning the hard way.
Old 09-07-2011 | 09:39 PM
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you should start a new thread on that guy...
Old 09-07-2011 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8Soldier
you should start a new thread on that guy...
Done Deal
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...70#post4073170
Old 09-07-2011 | 09:46 PM
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From: bloomfield nj now in miami ahhhh back in jersey now jajajjaja
new rules to sell

-no less the 500 post
-profile pics of you and your car
- facebook address or twitter
-and no less that a year old in the forum as a member

my suggestion ???!!!!
Old 09-08-2011 | 12:52 AM
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Blackonblack8 was using a cell connection. This goes to a pool of numbers so each time you login, you get a different IP. If the whole pool is banned then other legitimate phone users may hit these banned IP's.
Originally Posted by RIWWP
The Admins can IP ban, the Mods can only username ban.
This is correct.
Old 09-08-2011 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sebarx8
new rules to sell

-no less the 500 post
-profile pics of you and your car
- facebook address or twitter
-and no less that a year old in the forum as a member

my suggestion ???!!!!
Rules like that will hurt more than help. I only have 470 posts yet have conducted enough transactions to get an iTrader score of 14 with zero negatives, and I've never been scammed. I don't use Farcebook or twitter. Your rules would exclude me, one of the good traders on this forum.

I don't know the answer, but those aren't it. Unfortunately you can't legislate away ignorance. Folks have to educate themselves that there are ******** in the world who want to cheat them. If they choose not to learn the easy way by reading the stickies in the FS forum and the anti-fraud information in Paypal, they will have to learn the hard way.

We should help when and how we can, like when I helped get the ******* this thread is about booted again, and when I posted a big "CAUTION" on a similar FS thread with a new user with zero posts. But ultimately we can't always protect people from their own ignorance.

And when you do get scammed, don't bend over and take it! Fight like hell. VS8 tried to screw me by misrepresenting what he was selling, then refusing to take responsibility or refund my money. It wasn't much money but I started a Bad Guy thread and got my money back, though he never did take responsibility. The astonishing thing was how many people publicly announced in that thread they are willing to bend over and get screwed if the dollar amount is small enough. Never do that! Let scammers get away with anything and they'll keep going for bigger payoffs!

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Old 09-08-2011 | 09:21 AM
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at least you can pick them off with username banning.


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