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Old 01-17-2010 | 10:47 PM
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New AIS Competition Rear Trunk Mount Water Methanol Injection Systems

AIS is proud to announce our new competition 3 gallon rear trunk mount water methanol injection system.

Were currently sold out on tanks. Another shipment of tanks should arrive on Jan. 22nd. While were out of stock on these, we are still taking orders and offering $70.00 off the normal price.Here are the prices below.

AIS Stage 1 Competition Trunk Mount $349.99
AIS Stage 2 Competition Trunk Mount $479.99

Once the tanks arrive and systems are available to ship the normal retail prices below will apply.

AIS Stage 1 Competition Trunk Mount $419.99
AIS Stage 2 Competition Trunk Mount $549.99

If you already have a system and just want the tank with straps and necessary fittings. Price is $139.99

Features Include The Following:

*3 gallon capacity
*Dimensions are 14" long (not including the 1.25" rear sump) by 10.5" wide by 7.5" tall
*Aircraft style locking cap with built in flapper vent.
*Large cap allows you to access the inside for those who want to stuff the tank with safety foam
*Built in virtual sump with dual 3/8 npt rear pick up's
*Dual pick ups allows the use of a second pump for our high horsepower guys who max out one pump - sounds crazy but it happens!
*Pump is reversed under the tank for a clean over head appearance
*Reversing the pump under the tank allowed also to also break up the floor of the tank to help control fluid slosh












Old 01-19-2010 | 01:47 AM
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Is there any value to adding this kit to an NA rotary engine? Very curious. (and yes I did searches, no one has really addressed that question that I found).
Old 01-19-2010 | 11:02 AM
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could help clean the engine. kinda like doing a steam clean, depending on if its pressure based control system or if its a maf controlled. (i to lazy to look). increase octane cool engine some.


id like one for my turbo system if i ever get it completed
Old 01-19-2010 | 12:58 PM
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I know from experience that on a turbo system they are a very worthwhile addition. Also if you have the compression pushed way up they're good additions as well. I'm just wondering if it would allow you to run a lower (and cheaper) octane rated gas in the car - though I don't know if I'd want to do that experiment myself! And if it would help prevent detonation, which while I have not experienced (I run premium like everyone else I suspect), I have heard is much more damaging to a rotary than a piston engine. Also wondering if it would up gas mileage on those long trips.
Old 01-22-2010 | 12:19 PM
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What nozzles does this kit come with? Is this MAF activated or pressure (boost) activated? Is it a progressive kit? What kind of pump is it? Is atomization still achieved even though this kit is 'remote mounted', meters from the engine? Any pics in an RX8?

Looks very nice, just would like some more information.
Old 02-02-2010 | 05:52 PM
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interested in this.

Originally Posted by Frosty288
What nozzles does this kit come with? Is this MAF activated or pressure (boost) activated? Is it a progressive kit? What kind of pump is it? Is atomization still achieved even though this kit is 'remote mounted', meters from the engine? Any pics in an RX8?

Looks very nice, just would like some more information.
Old 02-03-2010 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Banner
Is there any value to adding this kit to an NA rotary engine? Very curious. (and yes I did searches, no one has really addressed that question that I found).
We do and have set up customers before with a water meth injection. However, unless your having issues with detonation or loss of power due to retarding timing to avoid detonation. I really don't see a need to run a water methanol injection on a NA setup. Being NA. The air charge isn't being compressed and heated up. So the big time cooling effect offered by a water methanol injection system isn't going to be there like we have on forced induction applications. The next big benefit would be the octane enhancement. Think of water methanol injection as an octane enhancer. Again, unless your having issues with detonation due to not having a high enough octane fuel. I don't see a benefit in running it on a NA set up.

Hope this help. Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.

Rodney
Old 02-03-2010 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Frosty288
What nozzles does this kit come with? Is this MAF activated or pressure (boost) activated? Is it a progressive kit? What kind of pump is it? Is atomization still achieved even though this kit is 'remote mounted', meters from the engine? Any pics in an RX8?

Looks very nice, just would like some more information.
We custom size the nozzles to each customers application and specs. We do not prepackage the same size nozzles with every system. This is our 250 psi pump. It bypass's internally giving you a smooth even flow. No pulsating. As for being remote mounted in the trunk. This makes no difference. Once you initially install the system and prime it with fluid. Their is no delay in the system as basic hydraulics apply. Fluid doesn't compress. As soon as you push on one end of the tubing the same pressure is applied at the other end.

We don't have any pictures of our new tank on the site yet. You can find plenty of pictures showing our old 1.5 gallon trunk mount tank in our customer section on our website.

Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.

Rodney
Old 02-03-2010 | 12:28 PM
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You don't think it would help with the buildup of carbon in a rotary, even NA?
Old 02-03-2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Banner
I know from experience that on a turbo system they are a very worthwhile addition. Also if you have the compression pushed way up they're good additions as well. I'm just wondering if it would allow you to run a lower (and cheaper) octane rated gas in the car - though I don't know if I'd want to do that experiment myself! And if it would help prevent detonation, which while I have not experienced (I run premium like everyone else I suspect), I have heard is much more damaging to a rotary than a piston engine. Also wondering if it would up gas mileage on those long trips.
Yes, it would allow you to essentially run a lower grade fuel. As for gas mileage. There are small increases in gas millage to be had. Not enough to make it worth while in my opinion.

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Old 02-03-2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by j8635621
You don't think it would help with the buildup of carbon in a rotary, even NA?
Thats a side effect of using a water methanol injection system. Yes, it will over time remove all the carbon from inside the combustion area of your rotary. Surely you can use it for this reason. We just simply think of it as a side effect which everyone is going to get regardless and don't know thats a big enough benefit to sell one alone. You would need to have a serious problem with carbon build up to just purchase it for this reason. I do however have guys that do buy it for this reasone. However, they are running recycled engine and tranny fluid to grease from resturants. They have a real bad problem of engine "coking" and the water methanol injection helps keep everything clean.

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does anyone have any pics of this system mounted in their RX8?
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