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Old 07-24-2008, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I'm trapped in a kind of weird negotiation with them.
They have some concerns about how they will handle taxation, warranty and their already present European distributor network.
Never mind that I've already got the device sorted.

There are, apparently, several units already in the EU getting tested.
I've sent a few to Europe myself, but they've been imported North American models.
I'm not really in a position to foot the bill for an experiment. I've had a few offers from some EU forum members to be "test mules", but the offer invariable includes my picking up the tab, which I simply don't have enough incentive to tackle.
I would have to see absolute interest from at least a dozen or more EU owners to take that risk.

So, for the moment, EU support is just like Asian support which is just like '08 support - in a holding pattern.
How much would the tab for this experiment be here say? I'm pretty much I would say 95% sure I want this since I want to go turbo next spring since I've been eyeing your turbo kit. I'm sure there is enough EU interest especially with all the UK models that are on here.
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HI..MazdaManiac.

I ordered the AP with you about 2 days ago.paid with Google .Order #969100345729378
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I don't use a CAT and the AP is set up to run without regard for the CAT and deletes its reporting from the emissions system.
I am using the OEM cat, and will continue to use it. Does this mean that if it starts to fail, I will not get be able to pull the code from a CEL (with my OBDII code reader) if it is cat-related??? I'm prepared for it to fail prematurely, but I need to be able to know for sure if/when that happens, so I don't go crazy thinking it's some other problem.
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Originally Posted by elysium19
I am using the OEM cat, and will continue to use it. Does this mean that if it starts to fail, I will not get be able to pull the code from a CEL (with my OBDII code reader) if it is cat-related??? I'm prepared for it to fail prematurely, but I need to be able to know for sure if/when that happens, so I don't go crazy thinking it's some other problem.
that should be correct. if you have conditions that would throw a CEL that is emmisions related, it will not show up, meaning your OBDII reader will see nothing....

if you have to leave the cat on, it'll go eventually, maybe sooner, maybe later. you'll know it's gone if you start loosing power...
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Just installed my AP today, seems to be fine on the default map, but I'll be checking out the AFR and such when someone else drives the car for me, too hard to read on the road :P

It seems like the car is a tiny bit more responsive, and actually a slight different sound. Is it eating my CAT? :P I need to get faster changing gears to actually feel any performance change either way.

Out of curiousity, since people claim this mod might give better gas mileage, how is it that it's worse for the CAT? I would think that meant it used less gas and all.
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Originally Posted by neXib
Just installed my AP today, seems to be fine on the default map,
Default map? I don't have a default map. Did you follow my instructions?

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Out of curiousity, since people claim this mod might give better gas mileage, how is it that it's worse for the CAT? I would think that meant it used less gas and all.
Leaner air/fuel ratios raise the CAT temperature.

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I ordered the AP with you about 2 days ago.paid with Google .Order #969100345729378
Cool! Thanks!

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I am using the OEM cat, and will continue to use it. Does this mean that if it starts to fail, I will not get be able to pull the code from a CEL (with my OBDII code reader) if it is cat-related???
Correct. If you want those codes turned back on, send an e-mail request to the usual place.
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Originally Posted by neXib
Out of curiousity, since people claim this mod might give better gas mileage, how is it that it's worse for the CAT? I would think that meant it used less gas and all.
exactly.


it leans out the AFR in certian areas, which means hotter exhaust gas temps, which cooks the CAT
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Ok, so I'm a newb but am totally interested in the AccessPORT. My only mods are Mazdaspeed Exhaust and Mazdaspeed CAI. My first newbish question is, do I already have a removed cat because I installed the Mazdaspeed Exhaust? (I doubt it right?) Mazdaspeed exhaust comes with a midpipe right so I don't really have to change it?

Is removal of the cat something I can do myself or would I have to take it in?
reading through this thread I gathered that you break in the product with the stock map then I would switch over to a provided Exhaust/Intake map? I'll stop the questioning there before I ask anything else
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Default map? I don't have a default map. Did you follow my instructions?
I'm being confusing again. By default I mean the first map you said to load in your instructions, ie. the _0 map (I believe it was MM 2004 MT NA v1c_0 to be exact). Read all instructions thorougly and watched video, and followed everything exactly. Shortly after it was warm I checked STFT for a while, but it seemed to flip between -0% and -1%, rarely at -2%. So I reckon there wasn't need to change map perhaps, but could try of course.

But since CAT's are expensive I guess I should try to know more about the heat issue then. Or perhaps uninstall the AP and wait till I can replace the cat with a midpipe. It's not exactly easy to know what people mean by it will go sooner or later It has 19300km on it now, so dunno what to expect.
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Sounds like you are on the correct flash.
Just watch your equivalence ratio at cruise above 4000 RPM. That is the range that is typically over-rich to save the CAT and the range I usually target for fuel economy by leaning out.
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As for the Euro-spec version of AP I know in person several RX-8 owners in Kiev, UKRAINE that would love to buy one!

Thanks!
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ok, my exhaust has been "popping" more often than usual. i noticed it happens a lot more when i stop at a light or something and i'm idleing after the car is warmed up. what does that indicate?
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Originally Posted by S1lveRx8
Ok, so I'm a newb but am totally interested in the AccessPORT. My only mods are Mazdaspeed Exhaust and Mazdaspeed CAI. My first newbish question is, do I already have a removed cat because I installed the Mazdaspeed Exhaust? (I doubt it right?) Mazdaspeed exhaust comes with a midpipe right so I don't really have to change it?

Is removal of the cat something I can do myself or would I have to take it in?
reading through this thread I gathered that you break in the product with the stock map then I would switch over to a provided Exhaust/Intake map? I'll stop the questioning there before I ask anything else
read the first post of the thread CAREFULLY, and watch the video TWICE!

you still have a catalytic convertor.
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ok, my exhaust has been "popping" more often than usual. i noticed it happens a lot more when i stop at a light or something and i'm idleing after the car is warmed up. what does that indicate?
Popcorn!

On a serious note, I have no idea. I can't say I'm seeing anything similar. Although I do believe I'm experiencing "surging" if I understand the phenomenia in shifiting at high rpms with my new AFRs.

I'm going to do some data logging tomorrow and will post results. I'm not necessarily complaining because if it is actual surging its very minimal and only at 6000+ on my 4AT.
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Originally Posted by onefatsurfer
ok, my exhaust has been "popping" more often than usual. i noticed it happens a lot more when i stop at a light or something and i'm idleing after the car is warmed up. what does that indicate?
lol, i have recently learned to make the car backfire/pop hard enough that you can feel it in the seats.... i dont particularly like that, it kinda worries me actually, but i was just trying to figure out what conditions would set it off....
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Paul, are you experiencing this?

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/fireball.htm

I can do it between 6000 and 8000 rpm on decell. Tap the throttle a few times and Pop, Pop, Pop.
I don't think it's going to do anything to your car except maybe burn up the rear bumper.
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Paul, are you experiencing this?

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/fireball.htm

I can do it between 6000 and 8000 rpm on decell. Tap the throttle a few times and Pop, Pop, Pop.
I don't think it's going to do anything to your car except maybe burn up the rear bumper.
i dont know... lol. i havent had anyone behind me to tell....

and yeah i get it best in that same rpm range after hard accel, esp when nice and warm
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Trust me , it's a poppin flames.
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Trust me , it's a poppin flames.
cool.... cant wait till its boosted and see what happens when the bov isnt recirc......
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this is whiile i'm idling tho

.. i don't usually idle at 6k rpms
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^^ lol cool?

MM, does the AP have the ability to alter the speedo by %? ie: taller/shorter tires, correct for it.
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Originally Posted by onefatsurfer
ok, my exhaust has been "popping" more often than usual. i noticed it happens a lot more when i stop at a light or something and i'm idleing after the car is warmed up. what does that indicate?
Just lean/rich swings at idle. Normal.
Do a search for people complaining about this in the fall of 2003!

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lol, i have recently learned to make the car backfire/pop hard enough that you can feel it in the seats....
I love that. I think, sometimes, I live for that.

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MM, does the AP have the ability to alter the speedo by %? ie: taller/shorter tires, correct for it.
No. That information is handles by the ABS system and simply reported to the PCM as a timer.
Even the gauge cluster and audio/NAV system listen to the ABS for that info.
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MazdaManiac, I see now you have Cobb AccessPort for Greddy turbo setup on 4 port AT. What is the injector setup for primary and secondary? What do most people setup at? I live in very hummit enviorment. If i buy it from you ca nyou setup for me?
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Originally Posted by fd3s777
MazdaManiac, I see now you have Cobb AccessPort for Greddy turbo setup on 4 port AT. What is the injector setup for primary and secondary? What do most people setup at? I live in very hummit enviorment. If i buy it from you ca nyou setup for me?
Not a problem at all.


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