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Old 11-05-2008, 07:34 PM
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and its only going to take longer as time goes on for people to get maps. good thing i have a cheap but awesome tuner
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I am seriously thinking of hooking up my emanage ultimate instead of selling it and offloading the ap. I miss driving my car. I emailed Jeff twice and asked him if I had everything correct in my email. I got no response. It sucks not knowing if I am going to get a map or not. How hard is it to have a simple response? If I knew this was the case, I wouldn't have wasted my money on this and gotten a.....get ready for this......Interceptor X!

C'mon Jeff, let me know when to expect a map. Thanks.
Old 11-05-2008, 08:31 PM
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just find a tuner in your area. they will make you a custom map which will make your car run better than mm's base turbo maps.
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my interest in the AP is only for getting rid of engine codes to get my inspection sticker. I was going to borrow one from someone local to do that. I just got a ticket today for my expired sticker. If ur getting rid of it cheap I might bite, but luckily i don't need it for management. And don't make fun of my Interceptor-X :'(
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Originally Posted by cheeto
just find a tuner in your area. they will make you a custom map which will make your car run better than mm's base turbo maps.
Not sure about that.

There are so many things to take into consideration for our engines. Unless you are a rotary god like Jeff you might make mistakes.

The 1st thing that comes to mind is the dwell settings need to be changed with the Mazsport ignition solution.

He spent countless months perfecting his maps. No dyno tune session will ever come close.
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Originally Posted by turborx8
Not sure about that.

There are so many things to take into consideration for our engines. Unless you are a rotary god like Jeff you might make mistakes.

The 1st thing that comes to mind is the dwell settings need to be changed with the Mazsport ignition solution.

He spent countless months perfecting his maps. No dyno tune session will ever come close.
who says everyone has the mazsport ignition, and if i remember correctly, jeff said the dwell settings arent that hard to change. and an experienced tuner should know exactly what to do. im not saying just take your car to any shop, make sure they are experienced.
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Originally Posted by cheeto
who says everyone has the mazsport ignition, and if i remember correctly, jeff said the dwell settings arent that hard to change. and an experienced tuner should know exactly what to do. im not saying just take your car to any shop, make sure they are experienced.
Tuning is easy if you know how. It's just like anything else.

Even if you take your car to an experienced shop that does not mean they understand rotary engines.

I don't have any Cobb dealers near me that work on rotary cars.
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if its a good shop, they will do the needed research on rotary engine tuning to earn your business
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Originally Posted by cheeto
just find a tuner in your area. they will make you a custom map which will make your car run better than mm's base turbo maps.
yeah, I am in Iowa, I don't have the luxury of good tuner shops
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I wonder if one of the base FI maps one of you guys have would work for my 2005 MT non-Cali with GT2871R turbo. It's a base GReddy kit with the upgraded turbo. It's similar to the GT3071R in the MM upgrade kit in terms of flow... anybody out there have those base maps?
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Originally Posted by GaMEChld
my interest in the AP is only for getting rid of engine codes to get my inspection sticker. I was going to borrow one from someone local to do that. I just got a ticket today for my expired sticker. If ur getting rid of it cheap I might bite, but luckily i don't need it for management. And don't make fun of my Interceptor-X :'(
I don't have anything against the int-x as it works well with your application...
it's just that the ap was supposed to be the answer to our prayers.....and it is I suppose if you can get a tune for it
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Originally Posted by 05rex8
yeah, I am in Iowa, I don't have the luxury of good tuner shops
im sure there is someone

http://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Originally Posted by blackenedwings
I wonder if one of the base FI maps one of you guys have would work for my 2005 MT non-Cali with GT2871R turbo. It's a base GReddy kit with the upgraded turbo. It's similar to the GT3071R in the MM upgrade kit in terms of flow... anybody out there have those base maps?
might want to make sure they are close enough and the 2871R isnt too small
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^haven't found anyone yet....feel free to find one because I cannot seem to that is in the des moines, IA area

edit: in order to get a dyno tune, you have to own an effing mustang or camaro in iowa

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You know come to think of it, I drove from Iowa back to NY in one stretch. Of course if your car is non-functional and have no base map, you're kinda stuck there.
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I have a base map and can drive it, but just slowly and cannot go into boost

i just came back from NY, drove straight thru back and forth..fun drive....
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then why didn't you get tuned in the northeast? Or it was a different car you drove?

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Guess there's no rush for me to figure out how to use the accesstuner to log my afrs. Speaking of which, if anyone could teach me how to do that, pm me.
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If MM could repost his base maps we could copy them over to our Race Tuner software and then tweak our AFR's from there ourselves. At our own risk of course.
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
If MM could repost his base maps we could copy them over to our Race Tuner software and then tweak our AFR's from there ourselves. At our own risk of course.
I doubt it - as that would kinda defeat the purpose of his service.

But you can do the same thing to the stock map. Timing would be on you though.
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doesnt the cobb website offer some base maps? maybe a few people can give cobb a few different base maps for a few different setups and much of this can be solved.
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What service?
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Originally Posted by Kane
I doubt it - as that would kinda defeat the purpose of his service.

But you can do the same thing to the stock map. Timing would be on you though.
Yeah. but as people are pointing out his service isn't really working right now. I'm on day 40 from my last request for changes and don't even know if I'm in the queue or not. I can only assume since I followed his instructions that I'm in.

All most of us NA folks need is to tweak our base maps to get our AFRs in the recommended range. If I could get in to his it would be pretty straightforward for me to pull a little fuel and then re-datalog until it's where I want it. But starting from scratch is pretty daunting for me.

edit: Plus he provides a lot of features that the COBB base maps don't such as the lower fan on temps, MOP increases, and Rev limit increase These are definitely valuable and worth paying for. Plus whatever else he hasn't mentioned. I've started a new base map with these changes and kinda gone off what information I could find on his recommended MOP settings.

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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Yeah. but as people are pointing out his service isn't really working right now. I'm on day 40 from my last request for changes and don't even know if I'm in the queue or not. I can only assume since I followed his instructions that I'm in.

All most of us NA folks need is to tweak our base maps to get our AFRs in the recommended range. If I could get in to his it would be pretty straightforward for me to pull a little fuel and then re-datalog until it's where I want it. But starting from scratch is pretty daunting for me.

edit: Plus he provides a lot of features that the COBB base maps don't such as the lower fan on temps, MOP increases, and Rev limit increase These are definitely valuable and worth paying for. Plus whatever else he hasn't mentioned. I've started a new base map with these changes and kinda gone off what information I could find on his recommended MOP settings.

For us NA people is not that daunting of a task believe me (well other then the ignition timing which is a black art if you dont have a chasis dyno). Scale your MAF according to the LTFT your car sets on a stock map, then scale the changes cobb makes until your AFR's are where you want them.

fan temps and rev limit are just a few numbers to change in the ATR program.
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For us NA people is not that daunting of a task believe me (well other then the ignition timing which is a black art if you dont have a chasis dyno). Scale your MAF according to the LTFT your car sets on a stock map, then scale the changes cobb makes until your AFR's are where you want them.

fan temps and rev limit are just a few numbers to change in the ATR program.
Yep. I was right on 0 for MM's first pass map so I don't think I have to scale the maps initially. I have changed the MOP up 20% across the board, fan temp down, rev limit to 9300.

So I'd like to be able to set the timing maps per MM's guidance and then do a datalog run and see where I sit and adjust AFR from there with the fuel maps.

The last map he provided bumped me from 11-11.5 from 5K-9K WOT to 11.5-12 so it was in the right direction and just needs a little more tweaking.
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from what i've logged repeatedly, his WOT ignition timing is stock... just tweaks some partial throttle areas


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