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Old 03-21-2008, 08:14 PM
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I never had any issues with a reset before but I had the stock injector sizes and the OEM flash. I started it twice and it hasn't died yet but it is running pretty rough. I wouln't mind if it went from rich to stoich, but when the AFR spikes to 18 I get a little worried. I may just need to get it out and drive it but I am a little concerned with it catching on fire.
Old 03-21-2008, 08:17 PM
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WOW you guys are fast....!
Until i wrote my post the thread changed already page having 10 newer posts !
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Originally Posted by gvang
No, the S/C is recirculating the air to drop the pressure. It has an actuator and a recirculation pipe (about 1 to 1 1/2 inch in diameter).
The S/C is a lysholm type (i think it's a twin "bone" setup).
Then you won't need to do anything special. It will work just fine (if it is ever available for the Europen and Asian market.

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So boost doesn't matter anymore correct?
Can we definitely say that the mount of air compressed and injected to the engine is the same as the air volume that "crossed" the maf sensor before being compressed?
Correct. As long as you have enough fuel to support the airflow you are creating, it doesn't matter what the actual manifold pressure is.

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And one other question....
Let's take the following example:
If the S/C at some point is pushing let's say 0.4 bar (around 6 psi) and the belt loosens, resulting in a loss of pressure and at some later point regains SUDDENLY it's normal boost (from let's say from 2 psi to 7 psi overboost), will the stock ECU still cope with the sudden increase ?
I am asking because in the past i had issues my S/C blowing instead of 5-6psi suddenly around 9-10, resulting in detonation..... :-)
I think it has to do with the right tension, but it happened 3-4 times in 2 months, 1 time going all the way to 14psi !
Same answer.
As long as your fuel injectors will provide the correct amount of fuel, your blower can be all over the place.
However, for drivability reasons, I'd get that figured out before you start adding any new toys!

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im about to give up and go back to stock everything.....so ill be selling some things shortly including my ap........jeff ill delete your maps from the ap before i sell,....
Uh, why? What is wrong with the car?
Old 03-21-2008, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Uh, why? What is wrong with the car?
its pinging pretty bad...i cant press the gas even remotely hard without it pinging.... .i though maybe it was bad gas but it wasnt....i dont know what to do so im just going to go back stock and take it to mazda....then start saving for a turbo....i dont see how my coils can go bad after 3000 miles.....
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if you're going turbo in the future, selling the AP is pretty silly. You should just take it to the dealer, and hold off on selling crap off till you find out what's wrong with it.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
After the drive, sitting in my garage idling, the snap shot looked like this:

ShortTermFuelTrim1: -1.6 %
LongTermFuelTrim1: 3.1 %
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I think you need to go to 1b
I'm thinking 1_1a looking at the LTFT.
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Originally Posted by OnRails
I'm thinking 1_1a looking at the LTFT.
The difference is +1.5 currently. Going to 1a will add +2 to the total
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Originally Posted by mysql
The difference is +1 currently. Going to 1a will add +2
I guess you don't really need to change it at all since it is so close anyway. I look at the LTFT as more of an average. After awhile STFT is just changing things on a temp basis. I was just trying to reinforce the idea that if it's positive go "a" not "b"
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Yeah, when you're within 1-2 points, I don't think it matters much.
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I think you guys will like this video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fCmbfVLIgTw
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That's what I've been wanting to see. Awesome. Thanks for posting up the vid.

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Yes, for you, you'll notice the lean afr just after throttle tip in from the int-x is gone. I can't express just how fabulous the rx-8's pcm is without piggybacks.
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do you have to keep the AP plugged in after you flash? Seems like it would be annoying if you did because of the location of it. I would probably hit the plug with my knee as I was going for the clutch
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wish i could find out for myself...
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Originally Posted by 05rex8
do you have to keep the AP plugged in after you flash? Seems like it would be annoying if you did because of the location of it. I would probably hit the plug with my knee as I was going for the clutch
no, flash it, then toss it in your sock drawer. You never need to plug it back in unless you want to change the flash on your car, or sell the AP (you need to uninstall the flash the AP installed before it can work on someone else's car)

we're using it temporarily to watch fuel trims.
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wish i could find out for myself...
Files sent.
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Originally Posted by mysql
no, flash it, then toss it in your sock drawer. You never need to plug it back in unless you want to change the flash on your car, or sell the AP (you need to uninstall the flash the AP installed before it can work on someone else's car)

we're using it temporarily to watch fuel trims.
awesome...this is definitley on my list of mods to get
Old 03-21-2008, 09:29 PM
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Received my AP this evening and proceeded w/out swapping my AEM intake for stock, to flash pcm w/Cobb Stage 1. I got the infamous "Not connected to PCM" that evryone has mentioned, but unplugged dongle from port and second time around succesfully installed and flashed.

Alot of popping from the exhaust initially and idle was a tad rough, After a couple of drives around the block my STFT started to settle @ 0, 1, and -1. I then decided to kick it up a notch, STFT stayed within -2 and 4.

I then begin to notice my idling smoothing way out and stft locked in @ 0 and -1 @ idle.

I open her up... and all I can say is wow. Definately a lil more "UMPH" in the upper powerband 4000 and up. Also the car is so damn smooth, I can't believe it's not butter (sorry that was cheesy) but anyway my AFR @ WOT were between 14.9-11.8.

While normal driving "in between shifts" my afr will drop to 20.3 anybody else experience this?

Other than that, don't know why louis was experiencing problems but Cobb stage 1 flash w/AEM intake works wonderfully for me
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Files sent.
Dan, I promise to cancel all travel/plans in order to make the next Fudds meet (or any other meet) when you have this!
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Originally Posted by Derex'8
While normal driving "in between shifts" my afr will drop to 20.3 anybody else experience this?
You don't care what the AFR is when you're off the gas and have no load on the engine. 20.3 = no fuel. You'll get that just by engine braking too.

At light throttle cruising you can do 16 AFR and it's OK. Under WOT for NA, I think you want to be 13 or so, maybe a tad richer. For FI you want to be 11.5 range, plus or minus .5
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Originally Posted by mysql
. I can't express just how fabulous the rx-8's pcm is without piggybacks.
That is why my powermod has worked so well - it may be a piggyback but it only modifies the stock maps .....
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hey Brettus, my FI upgrade choices aren't so crazy are they? lol
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What temp are the fans set to? I got to 190F and they never turned on.
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I don't think the AP displays 0 fuel properly on the AFR display. It always showed "20.3" when I watched it. My UEGO shows "---" when there is no fuel. It shouldn't matter though, you never really hit 20.3 AFR for an extended period of time during normal driving, so when you see it, just imagine 0 fuel
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hey Brettus, my FI upgrade choices aren't so crazy are they? lol
I never said they were crazy .
Been a mission to get to where you are now though hasn't it ?
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I don't know if it's a mission. It's been more of a waiting game. I never claimed the GReddy kit was awesome. It was just a good bang for the buck if you could get the damn thing to run without blowing your engine on the emanage. Once the 3071R came out, the GReddy kit became mind blowing. And now that the AccessPort is out, the fuel system is now complete. I really don't think it gets better than this (Besides cutting GReddy out of the picture so we don't need to buy 2 turbos and 2 fuel management systems).


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