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Old 04-12-2008, 04:08 PM
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Thre is a separate table that addresses that range but if you are very rich there, its probably because you are still running the wrong MAF calibration.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
likely because the engine management system is in open loop, try dropping down to 75 mph or less
I tried that and it did rise to 14.7.

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Thre is a separate table that addresses that range but if you are very rich there, its probably because you are still running the wrong MAF calibration.
Which calibration should I go to? Currently I'm on 1b_1b, would it be OK to run this map on the track on Sunday? It rained today so I didn't track my car.
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Originally Posted by devildog1679
I tried that and it did rise to 14.7.



Which calibration should I go to? Currently I'm on 1b_1b, would it be OK to run this map on the track on Sunday? It rained today so I didn't track my car.
Do you mean drop? 14.7 is just fine in that gear crusing or at partial throttle.

Your AFR seem fine to me you were probably a lil above 4k rpm because around 4200 or so depending on how much load your AFR will jump 13-12 range. Well @ least mine do.

I go Stupid rich @ WOT around 6K. 11.8 or so

Did and AutoX event today and gas tank was 3 hash marks from a half tank of gas and after 4 highspeed runs my tank was on E
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Originally Posted by Derex'8
Do you mean drop? 14.7 is just fine in that gear crusing or at partial throttle.

Your AFR seem fine to me you were probably a lil above 4k rpm because around 4200 or so depending on how much load your AFR will jump 13-12 range. Well @ least mine do.

I go Stupid rich @ WOT around 6K. 11.8 or so

Did and AutoX event today and gas tank was 3 hash marks from a half tank of gas and after 4 highspeed runs my tank was on E
At 4K rpm in 6th the engine load screen shows 38% and AFR of 13.2. At WOT i'm at 11.0 AFR. I guess i'll be burning lots of gas tomorrow, four twenty minute sessions will probably kill a whole tank. I just want to see how this map works. Running that rich won't do any damage, will it?
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it goes into open loop around that rpm which then goes rich even on the OE flash, the AP isn't the issue, the OE flashes run richer than that

I pity teh foolz who don'tz do teh search ...
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8

I pity teh foolz who don'tz do teh search ...
FIXED
Old 04-12-2008, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
it goes into open loop around that rpm which then goes rich even on the OE flash, the AP isn't the issue, the OE flashes run richer than that

I pity teh foolz who don'tz do teh search ...
yes,

but jeff mentioned getting rid of the cat saving light cruise richness that happens at 76 mph.

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I pity the rest of us who have to breathe the dirty air created by polluting, cat-less dumbazzez ...
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25906299&hl=en

No cat + flames = awesomeness
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I still have a CAT, though it's the RP SUpercat. I guess I'll just wait for Jeff's adjustments.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
I pity the rest of us who have to breathe the dirty air created by polluting, cat-less dumbazzez ...
sarcasm?
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no, I'd like to see people running without cat converters on the street be busted and have their vehicles confiscated
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Are you serious team??
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yes, there's no excuse for being irresponsible polluter, put up the money and buy the right cat converter or make do with a few less hp

I stood up for my belief by acting accordingly. I have never run catless on the street. Note that to date I've posted the highest NA Renesis dyno output without defeating any pollution control devices.

if I have to choose clean air/water for a future generation or a few hp more, which makes more sense. Only a complete dumbazz would choose the latter ...
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Someone's been sold a bill of goods.
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If you feel that strongly about emissions, you should start petitioning that offroad and racing use also require cats.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
yes, there's no excuse for being irresponsible polluter, put up the money and buy the right cat converter or make do with a few less hp

I stood up for my belief by acting accordingly. I have never run catless on the street. Note that to date I've posted the highest NA Renesis dyno output without defeating any pollution control devices.

if I have to choose clean air/water for a future generation or a few hp more, which makes more sense. Only a complete dumbazz would choose the latter ...
Why don't you just stop using the 8 (one of the worst polluting vehicles) and get a little moped or something.
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Originally Posted by slavearm
Why don't you just stop using the 8 (one of the worst polluting vehicles) and get a little moped or something.
why don't you just use a cat
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
I have never run catless on the street. ...
how about all the time you've spent Auto Crossing? Ever run without a Cat then???
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OK, in moving up to a stage 2 map, on the original old school maps BTW, do I just use the same trim number? Meaning, I am running "MM 2004 MT NA v1_3a" currently. Do I load "MM 2004 MT NA v2_3a" if I want to get a little more aggressive?
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Yep.
Watch your A/Fs.
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^ Yessir - will let you know how it goes. How did you like my chart in the Excel file I sent you?

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MM,

What do I do now that I've been running the 1b_1b map? I'm running rich at WOT 11.0 (I'm NA) What do you need from me to get me new maps? Do I go to stage 2 or just try another map in the 1b serious? I know your gone for the next few days. I just want to know what I need to get you.

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