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Old 04-22-2008, 11:24 PM
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From what i read over 4 years....

4hp is max between Midpipe Super cat no muffler
Old 04-23-2008, 12:24 AM
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someone help!

i saved the zipped file from jeff on my desktop and im using the Accessport manager thingy and im tryin to import the maps but its not sending them.. my ap is connected to my computer but i can figure this out..
Old 04-23-2008, 12:27 AM
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did you unzip the files? you need to unzip them first them send then over to the ap manager
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no i didnt unzip i just clicked ont he link on the email and saved it

it did not ask me to unzip
Old 04-23-2008, 12:31 AM
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i dont even know how to unzip..

its not giving me that option
Old 04-23-2008, 12:37 AM
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so the file icon is on your desktop

right click on it and see if there is an option to unzip it

if not then hmm...i guess you can google "unzip" and download a program to unzip files with
Old 04-23-2008, 09:29 AM
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you should be able to double click on it. I believe it uses Win RAR

That program should prompt you to download the program.
Old 04-23-2008, 09:50 AM
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just double click on the zip file, it will open in a new window, and drag all the map files into a folder on your desktop and make the AP manager find them
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Did some data logging with the EFIdude (stock tune) Pretty nifty tool. Yep, stock the renisis does run rich 11.3 at WOT. I loaded the base MMv1_0 map and STFT's were +4 so installed MM1_2a, STFT now at -1 and LTFT at -2. I guess this is good for now. I'll do a few drive cycles and data log on my drive home. Haven't gone WOT yet.
Old 04-23-2008, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
i dont even know how to unzip..

its not giving me that option
I sent you a pm. If you still need help, check it out.
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Ok so i just flashed to

MM 2005 MT NA v1_0.ptm

I drove it around for a little bit and my AFR fluctuated a lot

when on full throttle its 14.9 then drops to 12.1 then 11.1

can someone tell me what the ideal STFT needs to be at?

Mine is -0 and then 0 and then -2 and then -0 at idle
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as has been said a million times already, stft only matters immediately after you flash. If your car can idle, then there is no problem.

the point of this was to give your car a map that has the trims already set so you don't need to wait several drive cycles for it to learn to idle properly.

the afr's sound normal. Still a bit rich for NA use at WOT, but the next level up for you guys is coming soon.
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0 STFT is good, what is your LTFT at?
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ok drove it around alittle more

just after driving it around my stft at idle was at -6 through -10 and after 5 seconds or so it dropped -1 and -0

my afr at full throttle in third gear was at 11.1 and 12.9 and 13.9 around those lines

my ltft was solit at -9

hows thet look? think i should stick with MM base map??
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Drive it some more under all driving conditions and post your ltft.
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Originally Posted by tdiddy
Drive it some more under all driving conditions and post your ltft.
just got back from traffic driving.
lunch break!

now my AFR's are ranigng from 12.1-13.9

14.9 cruising

LTFT is now at -12

STFT is at -0 and -1 and 2
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what do the afrs look like in 2nd gear at WOT above 5500 rpms?

different afrs are acceptable for different rpm ranges, you should post up in what rpm range you are getting your afrs at
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
LTFT is now at -12

STFT is at -0 and -1 and 2
What Konig said! And it looks like you might want to go to the "b" series maps. Maybe reflash to the 3b map and repeat the process. Make sure to watch your afr!!!
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Originally Posted by \\Konig\\
what do the afrs look like in 2nd gear at WOT above 5500 rpms?

different afrs are acceptable for different rpm ranges, you should post up in what rpm range you are getting your afrs at
Those are in third gear at around 5K rpm
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2nd gear at full throttle at 5K rpm it goes from 14.1 to 12.9 all the way until almost redline
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LTFT at idle is -10
STFT is 1

Should i go with a "b" series map?
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
LTFT at idle is -10
STFT is 1

Should i go with a "b" series map?
With a LTFT of -10 you may want to go to "MM 2005c MT NA v1_5b.ptm" it subtracts 10%. This is what MM says

"If the STFT is a negative value, you will use one of the files that end in
"b". If it is a positive value, you will use a file that ends in "a".
the last number before the letter in the file name corresponds to the amount
of fuel trim you want to remove. here is the breakdown:

MM 2005c MT NA v1_0.ptm - start file, no trim
MM 2005c MT NA v1_1a.ptm - adds 2%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_2a.ptm - adds 4%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_3a.ptm - adds 6%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_4a.ptm - adds 8%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_5a.ptm - adds 10%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_1b.ptm - subtracts 2%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_2b.ptm - subtracts 4%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_3b.ptm - subtracts 6%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_4b.ptm - subtracts 8%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_5b.ptm - subtracts 10%"

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
ok drove it around alittle more

just after driving it around my stft at idle was at -6 through -10 and after 5 seconds or so it dropped -1 and -0

my afr at full throttle in third gear was at 11.1 and 12.9 and 13.9 around those lines

my ltft was solit at -9

hows thet look? think i should stick with MM base map??
Please... re-read this thread and the instructions sent to you.

From what you said.... Your map is good to go.

Drive it for a few days. Then if you wish you can go to stage 2
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Originally Posted by devildog1679
With a LTFT of -10 you may want to go to "MM 2005c MT NA v1_5b.ptm" it subtracts 10%. This is what MM says

"If the STFT is a negative value, you will use one of the files that end in
"b". If it is a positive value, you will use a file that ends in "a".
the last number before the letter in the file name corresponds to the amount
of fuel trim you want to remove. here is the breakdown:

MM 2005c MT NA v1_0.ptm - start file, no trim
MM 2005c MT NA v1_1a.ptm - adds 2%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_2a.ptm - adds 4%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_3a.ptm - adds 6%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_4a.ptm - adds 8%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_5a.ptm - adds 10%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_1b.ptm - subtracts 2%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_2b.ptm - subtracts 4%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_3b.ptm - subtracts 6%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_4b.ptm - subtracts 8%
MM 2005c MT NA v1_5b.ptm - subtracts 10%"


See i thought that that only applied for the STFT

and not the LTFT since it doesnt mention anything about the LTFT
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Please... re-read this thread and the instructions sent to you.

From what you said.... Your map is good to go.

Drive it for a few days. Then if you wish you can go to stage 2

yea thats what im gonna do drive it for a couple of days.
thanks! you guys!

But where do i get stage 2 map? i dont recal having it with the maps that jeff sent me the only ones i have are the ones for the fuel trims and his start file trim map


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