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Old 04-25-2008, 10:50 AM
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For stuff like autocross, where you hold high RPMS but you are in light throttle 20 inHg or more. You should shoot for 14.7 or below. My base INTx map would go lean since it would see low load (20inHg) and not correct for RPM. I'm in the process of fixing this but I may need new primary 1 injectors.
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Originally Posted by \\Konig\\
at full throttle after 5500 RPM your AFR should be around 11 to 13. just make sure it doesnt go near 14 near redline...that wont be good...

i get 11's and 12's once im above 5500 RPMs at full throttle, i think its normal for the stage 1 map.
its normally 1.5-13.5 at full throttle after 5500 RPM

but at 6500 rpms it drops to 11.1 and then after 7500 rpm it goes up to 12.5

other than that its running great.. I hope stage 2 will see better improvements...
I want to order mazsports midpipe.
if i did would i still be able to use these same maps or would jeff have to send me different ones?
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Once i get jeff's stage 2 and my midpipe im heading up to get dynoed..

is it me or is it that in 1st gear the car pulls really hard!
2nd gear it pulls pretty hard..
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3rd gear its dead it doesnt seem to pull very hard at all as compared to my first two gears..
my afr's are still mid low 13's

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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
its normally 1.5-13.5 at full throttle after 5500 RPM

but at 6500 rpms it drops to 11.1 and then after 7500 rpm it goes up to 12.5

other than that its running great.. I hope stage 2 will see better improvements...
I want to order mazsports midpipe.
if i did would i still be able to use these same maps or would jeff have to send me different ones?
Sounds like good #'s to me. You may want to get a logger so you can see what it's doing with different parameters at the same time (AFR, load, RPM, timing etc,,) I use the EFIDude, works well. Check out post # 2046 in this thread and see how you like it.
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Originally Posted by staticlag
For stuff like autocross, where you hold high RPMS but you are in light throttle 20 inHg or more. You should shoot for 14.7 or below. My base INTx map would go lean since it would see low load (20inHg) and not correct for RPM. I'm in the process of fixing this but I may need new primary 1 injectors.
If you replace your Primary 1 injectors just use your old 380cc Primary 2 injectors that you removed. Then we can share tunes.
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Originally Posted by staticlag
For stuff like autocross, where you hold high RPMS but you are in light throttle 20 inHg or more. You should shoot for 14.7 or below. My base INTx map would go lean since it would see low load (20inHg) and not correct for RPM. I'm in the process of fixing this but I may need new primary 1 injectors.
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Question

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I know this question has been asked before I just can't remember the answer and I really don't want to read through this whole thread again.

I'm on 1_2a if I reflash to stock (going to the dealer), when I install the AP again do I go back to 1_2a? Would the #'s I'm seeing now stay the same when I flash it back to 1_2a? Or do I need to start from scratch again?

Can someone answer the above question?
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unless your fuel pump got clogged or fuel injectors went bad it wouldnt make a difference would it?
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Seriously considering purchasing a Cobb from MM. What's the consensus, is it worth it for someone who doesn't track his car? Benefits I'm seeking are better throttle response in first and second, better fuel economy and smoother engine revs all the way up to redline.
Thoughts?

In case it matters, in terms of engine/exhaust mods, I have or will soon be installing MS CAI, MS cat back, Mazsport ignition mod, mazsport mid pipe and AP Power Pulley.
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It will definitely give you more back for your buck than all that other stuff you're buying. I would question the pulleys and CAI before questioning the Accessport benefits.

Also the Accessport will help you get the most out of all the stuff you're bolting on.
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dude.. i ask myself the same question was it worth it?? i say if you want power go for turbo.. ive spent so much money on there little bolt ons with minimal gains.. i think i only need a midpipe and its pretty lame..

but the car does feel a ton more responsive! if thats what you want is respponsiveness then get it lol..

I have all of those things you have withoiut the midpipe and adding 9lb flywheel and my buddy with a 2006 civic with intake and header beat me bad lol..

If its power go TURBO!
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oh i forgot i have also cat back hahahahhaa
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
dude.. i ask myself the same question was it worth it?? i say if you want power go for turbo.. ive spent so much money on there little bolt ons with minimal gains.. i think i only need a midpipe and its pretty lame..

but the car does feel a ton more responsive! if thats what you want is respponsiveness then get it lol..

I have all of those things you have withoiut the midpipe and adding 9lb flywheel and my buddy with a 2006 civic with intake and header beat me bad lol..

If its power go TURBO!
how bad are you at driving?
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Originally Posted by devildog1679
Can someone answer the above question?
i dont see why you would go back to the basic flash.

im pretty sure you go back to the flash you were using before, which for you would be 1_2a
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
but the car does feel a ton more responsive! if thats what you want is respponsiveness then get it lol..
Responsiveness is key in my book, so that's a compelling argument for it The exhaust stuff is mostly for sound but I'll take every bit of extra performance I can get.
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
It will definitely give you more back for your buck than all that other stuff you're buying. I would question the pulleys and CAI before questioning the Accessport benefits.

Also the Accessport will help you get the most out of all the stuff you're bolting on.
CAI is more for some sound from the front ay WOT. The pulley is for throttle response. I tried an 8 with the AP Power Pulley in it and was rather impressed. Thanks for the feedback. Good to hear that it delivers so much value. If I like it as much as my short shifter, I will be very pleased as far as mods go
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Originally Posted by cheeto
how bad are you at driving?
Well my 0-60 is 5.9- 6 seconds flatt
but thats not tryin i know i can do a little better
you tell me?

but my buddies civic SI 2006 is MUCh quicker after header and intake and lowerring springs..

1st gear i pull second he puls and third he beat me by like almost 2 car lengths more like one and a half

little thing is quick
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Originally Posted by rx8thunder
Responsiveness is key in my book, so that's a compelling argument for it The exhaust stuff is mostly for sound but I'll take every bit of extra performance I can get.
yep if thats what you want get a flywheel, ignition upgrade and cobb..

dont waste your money on the pulleys they dont do much for ya..

kinda like this

" Wait.. wait.. I think... mmmm no i dont feel anything" those kinda deals lol you have to try hard to feel any difference
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I just looked at the EMS forum that shows the thread listing ... and added up the page views for all the AP threads on page 1...

93,165
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Anyone have success running the AP Manager in WINE. My work computer is Vista x64 and my home system is Ubuntu. No 64 bit drivers. On my home system the access port connects (better than at work), but the AP Manager doesn't realize it's there.
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heh. from one extreme to the other. You should be used to stuff not working
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Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
yep if thats what you want get a flywheel, ignition upgrade and cobb..

dont waste your money on the pulleys they dont do much for ya..

kinda like this

" Wait.. wait.. I think... mmmm no i dont feel anything" those kinda deals lol you have to try hard to feel any difference
I know what you mean Guess I'll pull he trigger on the Cobb. Looked at flywheel but too expensive to install -- will wait and change when I need a new clutch
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Hopefully Jeff answers his emails soon...I'm running LEAN under WOT STFT is at -1 with the 1_1a map. I've tried using the richer maps that add more, STFT values change...but AF is still lean under WOT. I have uninstalled the AP for now...but I can't monitor anything, should I put the 'stock style map' on?
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Originally Posted by rx8thunder
I know what you mean Guess I'll pull he trigger on the Cobb. Looked at flywheel but too expensive to install -- will wait and change when I need a new clutch
yea i got my sr motorsport flywheel with Hd clutch for like 1000 and instal was 400 bucks..

I also have sr powe rpulleys.. ive been wanting to remove them and sell them but been to lazy to haha
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Originally Posted by mysql
heh. from one extreme to the other. You should be used to stuff not working
I've been managing IT depts for 8 years now. I've had everything from NT4 and Win95 to Solaris and several flavors of Linux, and all the intervening versions of Windows. The worst is just this damned x64 driver issue. The machines are becoming popular, but nobody writes drivers.

BTW, Ubuntu seems to run the AP Driver (the access port recognizes it's connected to a PC. The AP Manager SW just can't see that. My x64 windows box, however, just powers up the AP and never initializes the drivers.

<rant>Come on cobb, load up VS on an x64 machine and recompile the damned driver.</rant>


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