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Old 05-04-2008, 10:34 PM
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Jeff drove 8 hours tonight to street tune my car. I think he's a glutton for punshment.

He fixed a lean issue at open loop cruising, checked out my exhaust leak, checked the engine compression on my car, and basically it rockors. Also compression is good on the engine. I'm relieved to hear it.

The car runs well enough that I would feel comfortable bringing it back for another dyno run, but I'm going to try to wait till end of this week/next week for the turboxs exhaust to arrive before I do it.
Old 05-04-2008, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SebtownRx8
Yeah they were lucky and live down in socal, maybe get MM to do a NorCal Tune session? one problem i see is that he is a busy guy.
In all truth you can't base your judgment on the base maps he sent you. Once you get dialed in on those there is always his stage II maps. Just get dialed in on the current maps then just wait for MM's input. If you can get a logger to aid him in dialing you in (EFidude $150). A dyno tune would obviously yield you the most power. Considering what other people have paid for an extra 3 HP this AP unit it pretty much the best bang for the buck, especially for those that are FI or going FI.
Old 05-04-2008, 10:40 PM
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I was able to hang and pull on a street bike from a 70 mph roll with 2 adults in the car for a good 5-6 secs before be blasted me. I don't know if that mans anything, but I'm delighted that my car is running fantasticly.
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that's awesome mysql !!! MM continues to amaze me with his dediction
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Did you print out the compression chart when he was done? Pretty sweet, eh? Jeff and I can offer the compression test service at all of our dyno/install meets in the future.
so you may be able to comp. test my 8 at the dyno in june up here?
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yeah. From online posts alone, there is no way to know how much stuff he's dealing with and working on. He's definately dedicated to this.
Old 05-04-2008, 10:51 PM
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Great, since Jeff now has access to a turbo car with the Ignition Solution this is a perfect opportunity for him to look at the new AP tables available and modify the dwell tables. A lot of guys could benefit from this!

Jason, ask him where to forward the link.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
That's what I am saying Chet.
good deal. any cost?
Old 05-04-2008, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Did you print out the compression chart when he was done? Pretty sweet, eh? Jeff and I can offer the compression test service at all of our dyno/install meets in the future.
We NorCal people should take advantage of this god given chance to have Charles and Jeff to tune, I for one would throw down on getting these guys up here some weekend. anyone else?
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Originally Posted by MazsportScott
Great, since Jeff now has access to a turbo car with the Ignition Solution this is a perfect opportunity for him to look at the new AP tables available and modify the dwell tables. A lot of guys could benefit from this!

Jason, ask him where to forward the link.

Scott, unfortunately the mazsport coils weren't installed at the time. This was a spur of the moment thing and we only had a few hours to mess with the car before he had to drive all the way back to Miami for his flight out.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
What we are trying to do is organize these events into dyno AND install meets where I do the dirty/grunt work and Jeff does the brainy stuff. This way, we can address any issues that need to be handled either before or after the dyno pulls(depending on how it all turns out) and it'll all get handled in one day. Plus, if you get BHR stuff and want it installed, I offer labor discounts for that day.

The idea is that if we get a bunch of cars lined up everybody has fun for a fair price and Jeff and I don't go broke anymore when we do these meets.
Sounds like the best plan that could happen. Some one should set up a date.
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i wish Jeff can tune my car too!
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
What we are trying to do is organize these events into dyno AND install meets where I do the dirty/grunt work and Jeff does the brainy stuff. This way, we can address any issues that need to be handled either before or after the dyno pulls(depending on how it all turns out) and it'll all get handled in one day. Plus, if you get BHR stuff and want it installed, I offer labor discounts for that day.

The idea is that if we get a bunch of cars lined up everybody has fun for a fair price and Jeff and I don't go broke anymore when we do these meets.
What about an event in Toronto Charles?
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I see a new thread coming,,,

"BHR and MM Tuning and Install Dyno Meets."

You call, we show.
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Originally Posted by rx8thunder
What about an event in Toronto Charles?
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would drive to Toronto to get Jeff to work his magic on my car.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Canada doesn't like 2x felons. Maybe if I glued on a moustache........
Detroit would be a good alternative.

That is 8hrs from Ottawa and 4hrs from Toronto.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
That would serve a real cool purpose for me, too; I would love to host a meet in my own town so I can show all of you how I am living before I move west to AZ. That means if a Detroit meet happens I'll hafta organize it soon.
That sounds fantastic!

You can put me at the top of your list.
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new Thread up regarding a dyno meet up for Norcal. Great chance to purchace BHR product, or get a Access port and have MM tune it. either way it sounds like a fun day.
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https://www.rx8club.com/west-rx-8-forum-34/norcal-dyno-day-bhr-mm-145132/
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well just did some driving around did an average of 23.8 mpg according to the ap with the updated beta firmware.
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Earlier I posted a reply to Cheeto and I made a correction to it because I don't want a laymen like me to not understand this and set their STFT incorrectly.

Originally Posted by cheeto
wait a minute, jeff sent me this :If the STFT is a negative value (check only at IDLE), you will use one of
the files that end in "b". If it is a positive value, you will use a file
that ends in "a".

so now i am a little confused. i thought it my LTFT was +10, then i would use a "b" cause then it would subtract that 10 and bring it down to 0. am i wrong?
**********The wording above his graph of +/- % is what you go by.***************

***********I used the chart he made at first and the STFT was worse after every change.*********

***********The a's are the -'s *****************

***********and the b's are the +'s

***********use 1_5a to -10%*****************

The above was incorrect, Jeff(MM) explained it to me.

Your car is adding +6 fuel so you go ahead and add the fuel by doing a +6 which is the 1_3a which does say adds +6, then the car will no longer need to add it and it will be at 0. So it is written correctly, I think some of us just didn't really understand how it worked.

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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Now if I can just find a date and shake myself down for money to make sure MM and I appear in my own hometown........
You have to be kidding me, who would drive any distance for a tune from MM or BHR, especially if you are stupid enough to drive all the way from Canada. Those crazy thick headed Canadians.
Wouldn't catch me doing it.
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Okay I'm in, sign me up
Any date anytime
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Originally Posted by Rocketman1976
Your car is adding +6 fuel so you go ahead and add the fuel by doing a +6 which is the 1_3a which does say adds +6, then the car will no longer need to add it and it will be at 0. So it is written correctly, I think some of us just didn't really understand how it worked.
Okay I've been following this from a distance as my tuning skillz are fo-shore of the noob level.
But I think I'm starting to get it.

I'm running MM 1b_3a my LTFT was 1%
I flashed to 1b_2a and went out for a short drive (5 minutes I believe this is long enuf would someone confirm ty) and my LTFT is now 4

Doing the math from 1b_3a is +6 and 1b_2a is +4 so a shift from 1% to 4% in the LTFT seems about right, yes?

Now my other problem: (WOT)
- under 4500 rpm my AFR's on average are to high 13.8 - 14.1
- Over 4500 my AFR's on average are 11.1-11.3 (on the 1b_3a map) and 11.5 -11.9 (on the 1b_2a map)

MM mentioned in passing to me that he is working on a 1c_Xx version, I hope these maps will resolve my lean/rich issues. MM?

I've posted here with great trepidation, I hope my information is reasonably correct. I've been living vicariously through Cheeto as he's been asking many of the same things I've been wondering.
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Do you think there is a need for a Cobb FAQ for Noobs? I would be more than willing to collect the information and post it.

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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
What we are trying to do is organize these events into dyno AND install meets where I do the dirty/grunt work and Jeff does the brainy stuff. This way, we can address any issues that need to be handled either before or after the dyno pulls(depending on how it all turns out) and it'll all get handled in one day. Plus, if you get BHR stuff and want it installed, I offer labor discounts for that day.

The idea is that if we get a bunch of cars lined up everybody has fun for a fair price and Jeff and I don't go broke anymore when we do these meets.

make the show come to the northeast!!!


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