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Old 05-08-2008, 11:38 AM
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i wish the AFR readout was the first thing that pooped up after going into live mode, it would be so much more conveniant!
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^ pretty much. thats what i am on 90% of the time
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no, what would be nice is if it had an on/off switch....
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i wish it included a MM bobblehead figure =(
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Originally Posted by \\Konig\\
i wish it included a MM bobblehead figure =(
I want the action figure...with the kung-fu slide ruler grip, and portable IV-Keggerator...

It would go great next to my Fred and Charles dolls...

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hahaha

i thought of stealing the MM bobblehead that was at the Socal dyno meet

......that was a bobblehead right? not the real thing??!?

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Lol you guys have too much fun in this thread I'm missing out!
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Originally Posted by WantedTwo
no, what would be nice is if it had an on/off switch....
yes, someone should make something like that for the AP

Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
I want the action figure...with the kung-fu slide ruler grip, and portable IV-Keggerator...

It would go great next to my Fred and Charles dolls...

i will just take the IV-keggerator.
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Badass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by \\Konig\\
i wish it included a MM bobblehead figure =(
I wouldn't be able to stay standing upright!
My Dwight Shrute bobble-head would probably be a fair stand-in, though.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I JUST mentioned in another thread having an idea on what to do with a couple V2 and V3 BHR radiators I have laying around. Turning them into Beer Chargers. Instantaneous beer chillers that use CO2 or nitrous through intercooler spraybars mounted to the rad core. Who says BHR builds useless stuff?
you know at rr the beer i am bringing now needs a different room! it will be in the semi keg form..

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for those who missed it, heres MM at the socal dyno day



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Originally Posted by swoope
cpoooooooooooowwwwwwww!

beers
This is actually a picture of MM shifter.

He got it from the guy at Seven Stock last year.




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Originally Posted by Razz1
This is actually a picture of MM shifter.

He got it from the guy at Seven Stock last year.




Mu ha ha...........
not buying it. it is peanuts buddy..

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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I JUST mentioned in another thread having an idea on what to do with a couple V2 and V3 BHR radiators I have laying around. Turning them into Beer Chargers. Instantaneous beer chillers that use CO2 or nitrous through intercooler spraybars mounted to the rad core. Who says BHR builds useless stuff?
sounds like a waste, if they can fit my car, let me know
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I don't mean to derail the fun but I have a technical question. :P

Why is it that on some cars, the standard NA maps run the car rich above 5krpm?

Is this allowed to be explained without giving away secrets? The way I understood this stuff worked was that you more-or-less tell the ecu to shoot for a target lambda and it uses the fuel trims to get there.

Side note: I had my car driving around with the AP uninstalled yesterday and the CEL never came on with the catless midpipe. Non-functioning codes scare me.

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Originally Posted by qtwre
I don't mean to derail the fun but I have a technical question. :P

Why is it that on some cars, the standard NA maps run the car rich above 5krpm?

Is this allowed to be explained without giving away secrets? The way I understood this stuff worked was that you more-or-less tell the ecu to shoot for a target lambda and it uses the fuel trims to get there.

Side note: I had my car driving around with the AP uninstalled yesterday and the CEL never came on with the catless midpipe. Non-functioning codes scare me.
Cat protection to keep the temps cooler...and under load you want to run it richer to prevent bad things from happening...so for safety they crank it up...
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Originally Posted by qtwre
Side note: I had my car driving around with the AP uninstalled yesterday and the CEL never came on with the catless midpipe. Non-functioning codes scare me.
You need to meet a few requirements before the car triggers the cel. Also some cars (usually 2004s) don't show missing cat cels at all, or as easily.
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
Cat protection to keep the temps cooler...and under load you want to run it richer to prevent bad things from happening...so for safety they crank it up...
I'm talking about with the MM1_X tune though. I thought the target was 12.5ish. From reading, it seems some cars go way lean and some rich hence why MM has made the 1B_X and 1C_X series.

I was wondering if we could get a technical lesson on why this happens. Fuel trims are working but trimming to the wrong target.
Old 05-09-2008, 10:35 AM
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Its a combination of MAF calibration and injector "slop".
There is a wide range of injector output. Just because the primaries are supposed to be 290cc doesn't mean they are.
They can be anywhere from 276cc - 312cc and still be in spec.
The 380cc secondaries can range from 356cc - 404cc. The P2s the same.
That is a HUGE difference in lambda.
When you cross the open-loop threshold, the PCM calculates fuel without regard to this variation, so a command for a particular lambda target could yield just about anything.

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Old 05-09-2008, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mysql
You need to meet a few requirements before the car triggers the cel. Also some cars (usually 2004s) don't show missing cat cels at all, or as easily.
My '04 has been through over 30 drive cycles with no cat, and I have no cel.

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Good explanation. I forgot about open loop.

I only looked briefly as I was driving but around 7krpm in third at high-ish load I was in the 11s. Do you offer a set of maps to offset this or do you currently only have extra maps for lean cars?


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