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Old 12-09-2008 | 09:31 PM
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New MazdaManiac BASE Calibrations

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Old 12-10-2008 | 09:00 AM
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Anyone else see the A/F ratio in the 16s during cruise with the BASE calibration? Oh well.. quicker death for the CAT! Midpipe to come!
Old 12-10-2008 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
Anyone else see the A/F ratio in the 16s during cruise with the BASE calibration? Oh well.. quicker death for the CAT! Midpipe to come!
That will happen. That means you have under-sized injector scaling.

Originally Posted by jackhain
If the ambient temp is...lets say freezing (winter in Chicago)....do you need to wait the full 8 hours, or is it enough to just let the coolant temp return to the normal cold position? 60-80 degrees or something?
Yes - the point is to get the coolant down to "cold start" territory.
Really, any coolant temp below 120° is probably adequate.

Originally Posted by Mr.&Mrs.Magic
Just for clarification we need to send you an email for base calibration if we have the MazSport ignition even if NA right.
Well, that would be on the cusp, so to speak. But I guess "yes" should be the right answer since I actually said "MazSport Ignition" in the original post!!!!
The main point of the need for a custom start-up calibration was that there would be some people that had setups that wouldn't run at all without one.
The MazSport ignition really doesn't fall into that category, but I figured there would be some with FI and that ignition that wouldn't be safe without a custom start-up calibration.

Please people - Read the first post THOUROUGHLY. I am not going to answer questions that are directly addressed in it.

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Old 12-10-2008 | 01:04 PM
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I was wondering if you have calibrations for the esmeril turbo kit?
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:19 PM
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Old 12-10-2008 | 01:23 PM
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Jeff, still wondering on that AEM CAI thing. I plan to do this test with your new base map on saturday. Should I install the AEM CAI or should I keep the greddy intake? Please let me know so I can do this right the first time :D

I ask because this is not written in your post as something from the the 10 deadly questions and we have had this discussion before. But last time i installed it with the base map I have on right now my idl AFR's were horrible and sputtering.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:27 PM
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alien: whatever parts you plan on having on your car, do the testing with THAT.
These are new base maps, you should see different results. Even if you don't, then at least Jeff can work on getting you a map that works well with your setup. (48 hour turn around sounds nice)
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:29 PM
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Based on Jeff's response, I'm guessing he found a way to tune the maps without 2nd and 3rd gear WOT which sounds AWESOME.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:32 PM
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this is awesome!
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:34 PM
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Ok then I will test it out on friday. Hopefully this time around I can actuallyd rive the car with the intake haha. Last time it would turn off and everything

By the way Jeff, any update on my order??

I cant wait for those injectors so I can install the new turbo.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Daemos
Based on Jeff's response, I'm guessing he found a way to tune the maps without 2nd and 3rd gear WOT which sounds AWESOME.
NO! Please read the first post CAREFULLY.

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
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These are BASE CALIBRATIONS. They provide NO PERFORMANCE BENEFIT over stock and are designed ONLY for the purpose of collecting data for proper calibration of your particular car.
Old 12-10-2008 | 02:09 PM
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Jeff: Thanks for the clarification on the temperature. Chicago winters suck a little less now.

Now I just have to wait for Ray and the gang to ship my damn coil kit
Old 12-10-2008 | 02:25 PM
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I haven't had a chance to look at the new features yet, but from what I'm gathering, it now data logs? Does this mean we can just use this for the data logs for the performance oriented tunes? Or do we still need to use a separate data logger and make graphs?

And does this replace the previous method where we run the car with the starting map then choose the next map based on our fuel trim showed? And if so, will we need to do the WOT runs and data log them again? Just making sure because I'm almost done with graphing my data log and want to make sure to get it right the first time before I send this one off...

These questions are directed at anyone who can answer...
Old 12-10-2008 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
NO! Please read the first post CAREFULLY.
Ah I completely misread that...

I know the 'base' calibrations do not provide performance benefit but when I read "collecting data for proper calibration of your particular car" I mis-read that as getting a 'tuned' map for the car.

Sorry had a very long night =)

Makes sense now.
Old 12-10-2008 | 02:35 PM
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Well, that would be on the cusp, so to speak. But I guess "yes" should be the right answer since I actually said "MazSport Ignition" in the original post!!!!
The main point of the need for a custom start-up calibration was that there would be some people that had setups that wouldn't run at all without one.
The MazSport ignition really doesn't fall into that category, but I figured there would be some with FI and that ignition that wouldn't be safe without a custom start-up calibration.

Please people - Read the first post THOUROUGHLY. I am not going to answer questions that are directly addressed in it.
Easy Boss! That would be why I sent my email before asking on the forum. You said a while back you didn't touch timming unless you had to like for MazSport FI sets ups. I am just trying to make sure you didn't get flooded with emails for NA base maps when there is nothing your going to do with them anyway. I Also didn't see a reason to wait for a return email for something I could have gotten off your 1st post. Less work for you less work for me Saves you time saves me time.

No worries - follow directions - can do.
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Originally Posted by 8 Maniac
I haven't had a chance to look at the new features yet, but from what I'm gathering, it now data logs? Does this mean we can just use this for the data logs for the performance oriented tunes? Or do we still need to use a separate data logger and make graphs?

And does this replace the previous method where we run the car with the starting map then choose the next map based on our fuel trim showed? And if so, will we need to do the WOT runs and data log them again? Just making sure because I'm almost done with graphing my data log and want to make sure to get it right the first time before I send this one off...

These questions are directed at anyone who can answer...
As MM stated read the 1st post very carefully...everything you asked is answered in his FIRST POST! You only get one calibration
Old 12-10-2008 | 02:47 PM
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Old 12-10-2008 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Derex'8
As MM stated read the 1st post very carefully...everything you asked is answered in his FIRST POST! You only get one calibration
Ok, done. And I'm still looking to clarify that I need to redo the whole graph process. If I remember correctly, with the previous set of instructions, you were supposed to get your base map and drive the car for 150+ miles before getting your data log of the WOT runs. Does that still apply? Or can I just start my car up and run out to do my runs? I'm guessing it's the same process, but since I cant seem to find that stated anywhere, I wanted to confirm this. If we do need to do that, I'll find every excuse I can to drive... otherwise, I'm not in a rush to rack up the miles on my car needlessly.

edit: found the 150+ miles thing in the email that was sent out when I first got it. It must have been edited out of his original method's post.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
....You will receive a confirmation within 24 hours of your submission.
Awesome.

So we don't need a separate base for CA cars?
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Originally Posted by DynamicDookie
Awesome.

So we don't need a separate base for CA cars?
when you download your file it will ask you a series of questions which will take you to your file. It asks for model year, federal/california, MT/AT and NA/FI. Once you've gone through and selected all your things it has the link to download your file. So, in short, you will have a different one if your car is a CA car.
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So we do the datalog procedure right after the second drive cycle of the install? Ie. the engine is at operating temperature when we start logging? Just making sure.
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Originally Posted by 8 Maniac
when you download your file it will ask you a series of questions which will take you to your file. It asks for model year, federal/california, MT/AT and NA/FI. Once you've gone through and selected all your things it has the link to download your file. So, in short, you will have a different one if your car is a CA car.
I checked 2004 and didn't see a CALIFORNIA option. 2005 and 2006-2008 have one, but not 2004.
Old 12-10-2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by neXib
So we do the datalog procedure right after the second drive cycle of the install? Ie. the engine is at operating temperature when we start logging? Just making sure.
"Drive cycle" means up to temperature and back to cool again. In other words, cool it off again before the third drive that you data-log.
I'll clarify the first post further.

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I checked 2004 and didn't see a CALIFORNIA option. 2005 and 2006-2008 have one, but not 2004.
There is no difference between California and Federal models in 2004 (2003).
Old 12-10-2008 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
There is no difference between California and Federal models in 2004 (2003).
Thanks!
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well, just finished my first drive cycle.

When I first got my AP a few months ago I found out I had an 05 version in my 04 car. But today when I went to reinstall it recognized it as being an 05 cali. I'm guessing it's nothing to worry about since it worked fine with the 05 cali file but any guess as to why that happened? Did something in COBB's update change the way it recognizes it?


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