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Old 11-13-2007 | 11:45 AM
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Tip No. 18
Rotary vehicles are like women. If you can't handle a relationship with a female, you may not want to give her more power.
Best tip in the list!
The compliment might be:

Tip No. 19
Rotary vehicles are like women. Even if you CAN handle a relationship with a female, you still end up on your back, underneath her, in the middle of the night, hoping you are using the proper tools.
Old 11-13-2007 | 12:12 PM
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Old Dirty Bastard?
You know, he changed his name to Old Dirty Chinese Restaurant before he died.
I think he might have been Dirt MacGirt somewhere in there, too.
Old 11-13-2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Best tip in the list!
The compliment might be:

Tip No. 19
Rotary vehicles are like women. Even if you CAN handle a relationship with a female, you still end up on your back, underneath her, in the middle of the night, hoping you are using the proper tools.
lolololololol

he did change his name to DiRt MaGiRt
Old 11-13-2007 | 01:31 PM
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More Tips please
Old 11-13-2007 | 01:58 PM
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Without a doubt everytime he speaks I listen.....I would have to agree with him on with what works.

Why change a good formula?

....Hasn't failed me yet and his guidance along with his massive expertise has taken my car to new heights so everything he says...I obey.

I mean how many engine rebuilds have I had?

ZERO!

and I plan to keep it that way with my car......until I want to do my crazy engine work.

But that is years down the road becasue I truly want to see how far I can take this car on a stock engine.
Old 11-13-2007 | 02:05 PM
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A turbo can go almost anywhere.....(see sig)

JK

Tip 20: Air Fuel Gauge!!!! If you don't have one - don't play with your tuning.
Old 11-13-2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mazsportmantis
More Tips please
Buy low, sell high?
Old 11-13-2007 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mazsportmantis
More Tips please
NO. 20 or 21

Keep your nitrous until you've received your turbo or sc completely or else you'll have an underpowered really good handling car.
Old 11-13-2007 | 05:57 PM
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Betsey and/or Scott -

You didn't comment upon or acknowledge my refutation of #4.

Its critical that people DO NOT put REW trailing plugs in the MSP trailing position.
The REW plugs are 3mm longer than the MSP plugs and will bottom out on the housing before the gasket is against the plug seat.
This can/will distort the housing around the trailing plug hole (causing a bulge) which will, in turn, damage your seals and cause scoring of the housing.
Old 11-13-2007 | 06:42 PM
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i've bought the NGK Plugs from Mazsport. The 9L and 9T had different shims to match the Renesis housing/plugs.
Old 11-13-2007 | 06:49 PM
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Ahh. Good.
Most people would not know to shim them, or where to get the shims or how thick they should be.
That said, other than price, they offer no improvement over the OEM trailing.
Price is a big one, though - as much as $25 per plug cheaper for the REWs.
Old 11-13-2007 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mazsportmantis
No. 4

When going turbo switch from leading and trailing plugs to all trailing plugs to prevent detonation. There is more info about this on our website. We sell at Mazsport.

Is there more info about this?

What are the advantages over a normal setup V.S switching to all trailing?

Are the best plugs to use still

RE9BT ?

I tried going on your website to find out more but all the tabs lead me to "Coming Soon"...
Old 11-14-2007 | 01:55 AM
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I don't know about tolerances, but if I screw a BUR9EQP into the trailing position on one of my spare housings, the plug tip hits the inside of the hole 2mm before the seat.
If I continue to torque the plug, I can actually see the SIP move at the plug hole.
Old 11-14-2007 | 02:07 AM
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btw, I run BUR9EQP on both leading and trailing positions. I've bought the plugs from several different companies, and it always seems to come with one spacer. None of the 3 sets I've replaced have had any indication of the plugs hitting anything inside the engine. I can snap photos if you'd like to see.
Old 11-14-2007 | 02:46 AM
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There is no indication.
You would ONLY know if you took the engine apart.
Old 11-14-2007 | 06:25 PM
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Another thing to keep in mind when you are going forced induction cooling is your best friend.....

Alwasy expect to pay more for what you budget.....if your saving for a kit and you are 2-3k away save like 5k......

Issues always arise and you dont have every supporting mod you think you do or will need.......trust me sometimes the weirdest things will pop up....


Also boost is like Cocaine.....when you have a little......YOU WANT MORE!!!!!!1

Take it slow, slowly turn up the boost see what your car likes best....please dont jump the gun and go a bat out of hell with boost!!!

Because you sure as hell will have to rebuild.....

An interesting thought was that my car ran like **** on 3psi.....7 psi it was friendly and 9 psi it was heaven for the engine......try different things and see what works best for you and your driving habits and see how the car responds


...cocaine is a hellva drug...
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Originally Posted by BluMonstrRX8
Take it slow, slowly turn up the boost see what your car likes best....please dont jump the gun and go a bat out of hell with boost!!!

Because you sure as hell will have to rebuild.....

An interesting thought was that my car ran like **** on 3psi.....7 psi it was friendly and 9 psi it was heaven for the engine......try different things and see what works best for you and your driving habits and see how the car responds
this is by far the worst advice yet.

dont fiddle with your boost settings until the person who tuned your car told you its safe to set it to boost at that level. Also, make sure you have a capable tuner.
Old 11-14-2007 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOLundh
this is by far the worst advice yet.

dont fiddle with your boost settings until the person who tuned your car told you its safe to set it to boost at that level. Also, make sure you have a capable tuner.
Interesting thought about that is, I know my car and it was tuned at every PSI By Scott at Mazsport.

He does that......"in pursuit of the perfect explosion"......but I am sure you already knew that he tunes at every PSI.
Old 11-15-2007 | 10:36 AM
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We put shims on the plugs.

I have run the trailing plugs without shims and with shims without any problems. I also have great compression in both housings and have over 60k. Shims are advised, and if you arent sure, it is best to ask a professional.
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Not everybody (I'd say most people, actually) would be buying the plugs from Mazsport, necessarily.
They are available locally from every Autozone, NAPA, Checkers or Pep Boys for only a few dollars a piece and no shipping.
They do not come with shims, so an individual purchasing these plugs on the authority of a recommendation from someone on this site would be SOL.
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Volunteering as 'clueless'.

Now I have at least one clue.

Hey, these shims, are they reusable? For the day I go to my local parts guy for plugs (like they have them!). Or are they just a thick crushable washer?

MM you could sell these out of the back of your 8 like you do your other chemicals!

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Old 11-15-2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffe19007
MM you could sell these out of the back of your 8 like you do your other chemicals!
Now you are going to get the Maricopa County Sheriff on my tail and I don't want to spend any time in a tent city!
Old 11-15-2007 | 04:24 PM
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Now you are going to get the Maricopa County Sheriff on my tail and I don't want to spend any time in a tent city!
whats a tent city?
Old 11-15-2007 | 04:26 PM
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The difference here is when you buy products from Mazsport you get built in tech support from people that actually have extensive knowledge of the RX-8.

The other route is often the counter person saying, ugh that was a dodge what?


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