Q&A: Greddy Turbo & Interceptor-X (292 WHP!)
08-06-2005, 10:20 PM
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Yeah, the real reason im considerin this, is because there is so many issues with tuning and the emanage form what I have seen on the boards.
Im thinking that getting a well designed system in the first place should save me some dyno runs and trying to work some kinks out.
Plus, it offers more performance, and there will be less of a chance of my engine going boom.
1600 is steep as hell, but if I can justify it by gaining hp, saving money on tuning, and re-selling my E-Manage, ill do it.
Im thinking that getting a well designed system in the first place should save me some dyno runs and trying to work some kinks out.
Plus, it offers more performance, and there will be less of a chance of my engine going boom.
1600 is steep as hell, but if I can justify it by gaining hp, saving money on tuning, and re-selling my E-Manage, ill do it.
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08-07-2005, 07:39 PM
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not to mention that if you install the kit with the Interceptor right off the bat (like I am), you have a brand new EManage that you could probably unload pretty easily to help offset some of the cost
08-07-2005, 07:52 PM
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Q: How easy or hard it is for an international buyer find an installer and tune your hardware? I hope you have a loaded map for any turbo or supercharge system later on and a matter of adjusting it with a rotary tuner. But my tuner worries that he is not able to use your computer program. Is there easy to read menu and online support if needed? (you see people downunder is very simple 
BTW I am after the HKS supercharger (which is due this summer in Japan) and may go to Greddy if HKS turns out to be not as good.
Good job mazsport.
BTW I am after the HKS supercharger (which is due this summer in Japan) and may go to Greddy if HKS turns out to be not as good.
Good job mazsport.
08-08-2005, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
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How does one convince his wife this, coupled with a turbo kit, will make the car safer and/or more economical to operate?
:D
How does one convince his wife this, coupled with a turbo kit, will make the car safer and/or more economical to operate?
:D
08-08-2005, 04:11 PM
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You'd get what, $200 - $250 for the emanage?
Originally Posted by ScudRunner
not to mention that if you install the kit with the Interceptor right off the bat (like I am), you have a brand new EManage that you could probably unload pretty easily to help offset some of the cost
08-08-2005, 04:40 PM
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Considering the number of people saying "Oh my god, $1700! I'd be willing to pay $1300-1500, but not $1700!", then $200-300 for the eManage would seem to be a big deal for them.
08-08-2005, 09:29 PM
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I went and put both the EMS and the software in my shopping cart on the Mazsport site, and the total cost was only $1774 plus shipping. Get $250 or so for your eManage and you're back down almost to $1500. The only way it gets into the $1900s is if you live in Florida and have to pay tax, or have it shipped to you faster than Ground.
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08-09-2005, 08:45 AM
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really the way to go is buy a used kit on the forum for 2200 or less, sell the emanage...then get this...granted you'll still need additional compnenets if they weren't in the sale (ie different BOV...etc., boost gauge)...but by the time you add it up it will be around 5000, is that really unreasonable for
100whp increase
and more importantly Gobs and gobs of torque increase???? (90 lb-ft to be exact based on mazda's inflated numbers)
I'm not going to be into this kind of tuning/modification for a year...but these prices are NOT outrageous if you look at it in the big picture
100whp increase
and more importantly Gobs and gobs of torque increase???? (90 lb-ft to be exact based on mazda's inflated numbers)
I'm not going to be into this kind of tuning/modification for a year...but these prices are NOT outrageous if you look at it in the big picture
08-10-2005, 09:33 AM
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Scott,
Will the unit/software allow us to eliminate the annoying TPMS warning light? Will it allow us to send a correct TPMS signal to the ECU for those of us with aftermarket wheels that don't accept the TPMS sensors?
I hope your production is moving along at target pace -- I find myself not even wanting to drive my 8 until your unit comes
I never should have installed that 3rd dongle from GReddy - driveability went way down -- now bogging and hunting/stalling at idle.
Will the unit/software allow us to eliminate the annoying TPMS warning light? Will it allow us to send a correct TPMS signal to the ECU for those of us with aftermarket wheels that don't accept the TPMS sensors?
I hope your production is moving along at target pace -- I find myself not even wanting to drive my 8 until your unit comes
I never should have installed that 3rd dongle from GReddy - driveability went way down -- now bogging and hunting/stalling at idle.
08-10-2005, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RXhusker
Scott,
Will the unit/software allow us to eliminate the annoying TPMS warning light? Will it allow us to send a correct TPMS signal to the ECU for those of us with aftermarket wheels that don't accept the TPMS sensors?
I hope your production is moving along at target pace -- I find myself not even wanting to drive my 8 until your unit comes I never should have installed that 3rd dongle from GReddy - driveability went way down -- now bogging and hunting/stalling at idle.
Will the unit/software allow us to eliminate the annoying TPMS warning light? Will it allow us to send a correct TPMS signal to the ECU for those of us with aftermarket wheels that don't accept the TPMS sensors?
I hope your production is moving along at target pace -- I find myself not even wanting to drive my 8 until your unit comes
I never should have installed that 3rd dongle from GReddy - driveability went way down -- now bogging and hunting/stalling at idle.
08-10-2005, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
there is a nice diy on disabling the sensor (no not the take coverup one :D) where you could put it on an on/off switch...that is if this unit cannot disable it
BTW -- I will be in Minneapolis (airport Embassy Suites) for a meeting at the end of Sept. planning on driving my 8 -- with the Interceptor installed of course -- if you want to see it up close and personal.
08-10-2005, 12:51 PM
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I've seen the video. Cool. All this additional horsepower is nice, but assuming I set up my car the same way to get 292 HP, what are the end results on MPG and actual 0-60, 5-60 and 1/4 miles times?
08-10-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RXhusker
Yea I have seen that DIY -- just be easier if this unit could intercept the signal and fool the ecu
BTW -- I will be in Minneapolis (airport Embassy Suites) for a meeting at the end of Sept. planning on driving my 8 -- with the Interceptor installed of course -- if you want to see it up close and personal.
BTW -- I will be in Minneapolis (airport Embassy Suites) for a meeting at the end of Sept. planning on driving my 8 -- with the Interceptor installed of course -- if you want to see it up close and personal.
08-10-2005, 05:41 PM
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8-10-05 Update on Q & A
Sorry for the long delay in getting back to you.
Below are Scott's answers to more of your questions. We are also considering a weekend workshop. We're very close to Tampa Florida and could easily have one here? Please give us your feedback if this is something you guys would be interested in. Thanks Christy G
Q: So with the GReddy kit, what will this EMS upgrade stats wise?
A: Please View the video . This will show the results of a GReddy Turbo Kit with full exhaust, a boost controller and proper tuning.
Q: Do you plan on using your EMS to show just how much can be had with a proper tuning? If you produced a video similar to what you did before that would be great but it's not expected. Any updates on your progress for this are appreciated very much.
A: Not yet but we are working on it for an N/A, we are shooting 200rwhp and feel confident if we don’t get there, it will be real close.
Q: I’m considering buying the GReddy kit and tuning for 8 PSI,
Since we list the car components in the purchase area, and put down 8 PSI, would it be pre tuned to run at that? And if yes, would it be plug and play? Or would it require more tuning after installation?
A: All The Interceptor-X Systems will come with the closest map to your application as possible. The current GReddy map has been pushed beyond 8psi into 12- 12.5 range. When the boost is increased you are just going deeper into the map, as time goes on more maps with different components will be added to the list. However, every unit that is installed should be tuned, we are giving you compete control please take advantage of it. There are variances in the mass production of vehicles, simply look at the variety of results the turbo guys have experienced. We are giving the end user the ability to tune their vehicle for better or worse and unlike some other systems, ours will stay tuned.
Q: Any incentives? Other than being the first to own?
A: The ability to tune your vehicle and maximize the performance!
Q: I was referring to a possible group buy or something to that effect. Sorry for not being clear...
A: It’s difficult to reduce the cost per unit considering the investment cost in the system and the extensive R&D time. I understand the value of the dollar but please keep in mind these are tried and true tested components. We could have used lower quality/cost components, increased our margin and lowered the cost of the unit, but we opted for higher quality instead. If this were a HeathKit then perhaps, I feel a lot of people want something that finally works.
Q. What was the baseline dyno of the Greddy kit with the EMANAGE on your test car? Just trying to see exactly how much gain was added.
A: We did not dyno this particular car before the Interceptor- X was installed. I expect from the results of others it was 210-240 rwhp.
Q: I live in Central Florida, I could try it on my A/T!
A: We have not done any development work as of yet for the A/T cars. Call 727-530-9960 and we can discuss a time frame
Q: How easy or hard it is for an international buyer find an installer and tune your hardware? I hope you have a loaded map for any turbo or supercharge system later on and a matter of adjusting it with a rotary tuner. But my tuner worries that he is not able to use your computer program. Is there easy to read menu and online support if needed? (You see people down under is very simple
A: If your tuner is familiar and versed with standalone systems developed by other manufactures, this system is quite straightforward. At this time we are not offering our unit Internationally due to our US Patent that is pending. When we go International, we will be happy to work with you.
Q: How does one convince his wife this, coupled with a turbo kit, will make the car safer and/or more economical to operate?
A: Perhaps telling her, “ After this system is installed and tuned the drivability of the car will be more predictable. If for some reason I had to accelerate quickly it would perform as expected which means a safer vehicle. Also dear, through more precise tuning, I may be able to increase the efficiency and achieve better fuel economy” Or maybe you had play it safe and should not say anything. :D LOL
Q: Provided my mods, Greddy turbo, midpipe, and borla exhaust, will the greddy tuned interceptor-x unit provide big jumps in power? Also, will I still need to get a boost controller,etc. w/ this interceptor unit? I don't really want to tune b/c I don't have an extensive background in tuning -- so will this unit truly be plug and play?
A: Please watch the video for the results. If you want to increase the boost/power then yes. If not, then no.
Please read the Q&A list for answers to more of you questions.
Q: I have talked to Scott the other day for a long time, so thanks Scott for putting up with me and my questions... This unit really does sounds like Scott did his work and I am probably going to buy it... The only thing I would really like to see is That I would be able to control it through my E0-1 like I can with my Greddy E-manage, other then that I think you did a Great job....
A: Unfortunately there is no way to interface the units that I am aware of. Since however the unit does not allow the factory ECU to make LTFT adjustments once it’s tuned, it’s tuned! Tune it for your set of components and get back to having a good time.
Q: After talking with Scott again today, I want to point out to people that his ECU solution utilizes a modified engine management system from another unknown vendor...............quote
This person is.... drum roll................................Maurice Hilarious better known as Canzoomer ..................... , whats the big secret??? Maurice has great credibility here on the forum.
A: To my knowledge I have never spoken with anyone from the Canzoomer group. Period!
A: What’s the big secret? There really is no “secret” at all. It has to do with branding and the human nature of pre-judgment. If you say it was developed in conjunction with ___________it will get branded as a “__________and no one will really think of it as the Interceptor-X EMS Don’t you think? It is a new entity/product on it’s own and deserves to be treated as such. What components we used to create the end result are irrelevant. Chg
Q: Is the cat on the car during testing??
A: No, for testing purposes a Bonez midpipe was used in conjunction with a Racing Beat Cat Back
Q: X-interceptor will allow (finally) users to tune their cars. As a result the engines will end up running leaner and therefore the exhaust temperatures will be (far) higher. Under these circumstances there may be many people considering removing the cat not just to alleviate exhaust backpressure but also to preserve the cat for future use (i.e. to bring the car to Mazda for maintenance keep the warranty). The point is, can X-interceptor run the car without the cat? Would not be any problems with the stock ECU when it sees that the O2 sensors measure the same or are removed?
A: Yes, The Interceptor-X System is completely tunable and may be used in conjunction with all intake and exhaust systems that we are aware of. No problems that will affect the power or drivability of the vehicle.
Q: What does your upgrade accomplish with the greddy turbo?
BTW I'm not talking about the intercepter x.
A: Then what upgrade are you talking about??
Q: Will the unit/software allow us to eliminate the annoying TPMS warning light? Will it allow us to send a correct TPMS signal to the ECU for those of us with aftermarket wheels that don't accept the TPMS sensors?
I hope your production is moving along at target pace -- I find myself not even wanting to drive my 8 until your unit comes I never should have installed that 3rd dongle from GReddy - drivability went way down -- now bogging and hunting/stalling at idle.
A: We have not altered the TPMS System in any way. Congratulations! Our system is about to improve your new set of problems.
Q: I've seen the video. Cool. All this additional horsepower is nice, but assuming I set up my car the same way to get 292 HP, what are the end results on MPG and actual 0-60, 5-60 and 1/4 miles times?
A; We have not performed any acceleration testing per say. We do anticipate comprable 3000lb/320bhp vehicle results.
Thanks.
Below are Scott's answers to more of your questions. We are also considering a weekend workshop. We're very close to Tampa Florida and could easily have one here? Please give us your feedback if this is something you guys would be interested in. Thanks Christy G
Q: So with the GReddy kit, what will this EMS upgrade stats wise?
A: Please View the video . This will show the results of a GReddy Turbo Kit with full exhaust, a boost controller and proper tuning.
Q: Do you plan on using your EMS to show just how much can be had with a proper tuning? If you produced a video similar to what you did before that would be great but it's not expected. Any updates on your progress for this are appreciated very much.
A: Not yet but we are working on it for an N/A, we are shooting 200rwhp and feel confident if we don’t get there, it will be real close.
Q: I’m considering buying the GReddy kit and tuning for 8 PSI,
Since we list the car components in the purchase area, and put down 8 PSI, would it be pre tuned to run at that? And if yes, would it be plug and play? Or would it require more tuning after installation?
A: All The Interceptor-X Systems will come with the closest map to your application as possible. The current GReddy map has been pushed beyond 8psi into 12- 12.5 range. When the boost is increased you are just going deeper into the map, as time goes on more maps with different components will be added to the list. However, every unit that is installed should be tuned, we are giving you compete control please take advantage of it. There are variances in the mass production of vehicles, simply look at the variety of results the turbo guys have experienced. We are giving the end user the ability to tune their vehicle for better or worse and unlike some other systems, ours will stay tuned.
Q: Any incentives? Other than being the first to own?
A: The ability to tune your vehicle and maximize the performance!
Q: I was referring to a possible group buy or something to that effect. Sorry for not being clear...
A: It’s difficult to reduce the cost per unit considering the investment cost in the system and the extensive R&D time. I understand the value of the dollar but please keep in mind these are tried and true tested components. We could have used lower quality/cost components, increased our margin and lowered the cost of the unit, but we opted for higher quality instead. If this were a HeathKit then perhaps, I feel a lot of people want something that finally works.
Q. What was the baseline dyno of the Greddy kit with the EMANAGE on your test car? Just trying to see exactly how much gain was added.
A: We did not dyno this particular car before the Interceptor- X was installed. I expect from the results of others it was 210-240 rwhp.
Q: I live in Central Florida, I could try it on my A/T!
A: We have not done any development work as of yet for the A/T cars. Call 727-530-9960 and we can discuss a time frame
Q: How easy or hard it is for an international buyer find an installer and tune your hardware? I hope you have a loaded map for any turbo or supercharge system later on and a matter of adjusting it with a rotary tuner. But my tuner worries that he is not able to use your computer program. Is there easy to read menu and online support if needed? (You see people down under is very simple
A: If your tuner is familiar and versed with standalone systems developed by other manufactures, this system is quite straightforward. At this time we are not offering our unit Internationally due to our US Patent that is pending. When we go International, we will be happy to work with you.
Q: How does one convince his wife this, coupled with a turbo kit, will make the car safer and/or more economical to operate?
A: Perhaps telling her, “ After this system is installed and tuned the drivability of the car will be more predictable. If for some reason I had to accelerate quickly it would perform as expected which means a safer vehicle. Also dear, through more precise tuning, I may be able to increase the efficiency and achieve better fuel economy” Or maybe you had play it safe and should not say anything. :D LOL
Q: Provided my mods, Greddy turbo, midpipe, and borla exhaust, will the greddy tuned interceptor-x unit provide big jumps in power? Also, will I still need to get a boost controller,etc. w/ this interceptor unit? I don't really want to tune b/c I don't have an extensive background in tuning -- so will this unit truly be plug and play?
A: Please watch the video for the results. If you want to increase the boost/power then yes. If not, then no.
Please read the Q&A list for answers to more of you questions.
Q: I have talked to Scott the other day for a long time, so thanks Scott for putting up with me and my questions... This unit really does sounds like Scott did his work and I am probably going to buy it... The only thing I would really like to see is That I would be able to control it through my E0-1 like I can with my Greddy E-manage, other then that I think you did a Great job....
A: Unfortunately there is no way to interface the units that I am aware of. Since however the unit does not allow the factory ECU to make LTFT adjustments once it’s tuned, it’s tuned! Tune it for your set of components and get back to having a good time.
Q: After talking with Scott again today, I want to point out to people that his ECU solution utilizes a modified engine management system from another unknown vendor...............quote
This person is.... drum roll................................Maurice Hilarious better known as Canzoomer ..................... , whats the big secret??? Maurice has great credibility here on the forum.
A: To my knowledge I have never spoken with anyone from the Canzoomer group. Period!
A: What’s the big secret? There really is no “secret” at all. It has to do with branding and the human nature of pre-judgment. If you say it was developed in conjunction with ___________it will get branded as a “__________and no one will really think of it as the Interceptor-X EMS Don’t you think? It is a new entity/product on it’s own and deserves to be treated as such. What components we used to create the end result are irrelevant. Chg
Q: Is the cat on the car during testing??
A: No, for testing purposes a Bonez midpipe was used in conjunction with a Racing Beat Cat Back
Q: X-interceptor will allow (finally) users to tune their cars. As a result the engines will end up running leaner and therefore the exhaust temperatures will be (far) higher. Under these circumstances there may be many people considering removing the cat not just to alleviate exhaust backpressure but also to preserve the cat for future use (i.e. to bring the car to Mazda for maintenance keep the warranty). The point is, can X-interceptor run the car without the cat? Would not be any problems with the stock ECU when it sees that the O2 sensors measure the same or are removed?
A: Yes, The Interceptor-X System is completely tunable and may be used in conjunction with all intake and exhaust systems that we are aware of. No problems that will affect the power or drivability of the vehicle.
Q: What does your upgrade accomplish with the greddy turbo?
BTW I'm not talking about the intercepter x.
A: Then what upgrade are you talking about??
Q: Will the unit/software allow us to eliminate the annoying TPMS warning light? Will it allow us to send a correct TPMS signal to the ECU for those of us with aftermarket wheels that don't accept the TPMS sensors?
I hope your production is moving along at target pace -- I find myself not even wanting to drive my 8 until your unit comes I never should have installed that 3rd dongle from GReddy - drivability went way down -- now bogging and hunting/stalling at idle.
A: We have not altered the TPMS System in any way. Congratulations! Our system is about to improve your new set of problems.
Q: I've seen the video. Cool. All this additional horsepower is nice, but assuming I set up my car the same way to get 292 HP, what are the end results on MPG and actual 0-60, 5-60 and 1/4 miles times?
A; We have not performed any acceleration testing per say. We do anticipate comprable 3000lb/320bhp vehicle results.
Thanks.
08-10-2005, 06:19 PM
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scott he was asking what changes wil you make tot eh Turbo unit itself and what will be the results of the change you make. i believe you mentioned modifying the turbo unit for more airflow?
08-11-2005, 11:12 PM
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So, the price dicount is 100 units. Why didn't you get 100 units. You could have reduced your cost by 1/2 or 1/3rd perhaps even 4x less.
I buy PCA's so, if your product is so good and you have confidence in it why didn't you cut your cost and reduce the market price so it's affordable?
I buy PCA's so, if your product is so good and you have confidence in it why didn't you cut your cost and reduce the market price so it's affordable?
08-12-2005, 12:14 AM
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Who said it isn't affordable 
I am sure if you had offered to bankroll the 100 unit order at no interest he would have been glad to order the internals in bulk
I am sure if you had offered to bankroll the 100 unit order at no interest he would have been glad to order the internals in bulk