Notices
MW RX-8 Forum Serving KY, IN, IL, MO, MI, WI, IA, MN, ND, SD, NE, KS,

Chicago Cobb Access Port Tuning Feeler

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 04-30-2008 | 11:25 AM
  #101  
devildog1679's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,202
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Originally Posted by Phish806
I know what you mean about gettin a car dyno ready. I have been scrambeling trying ot get my ignition solution put on and now i am waiting for my midpipe to get here in time. I just wnat to have to do the dyno and tune thing once.

i would suggest new plugs and maybe even wires. As far as coils go i do not know how you can check them. Maybe take them off and check out the back of them. See if you can see any white spots where they could be failing and or grounding out. if you have not gotten a cel from a misfire you are most likely ok though
Thanks, I'll have to look up a DIY on the coils and plugs.
Old 04-30-2008 | 11:31 AM
  #102  
devildog1679's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,202
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Originally Posted by tdiddy
I put down 185 when I had the MazdaSpeed CAI, RX8Store Highflow Cat, and a TurboXS Catback. That was last fall on a Dynojet before the turbo build. I am looking for over 300whp with all the new stuff.
I'll be happy with over 200, we'll see.
Old 04-30-2008 | 12:17 PM
  #103  
Phish806's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
From: Des Moines, Ia
Only 185 with intake and exhaust and a highflow cat. Man if i do not hit 200 without tuning it will be a big big let down for me.
Old 04-30-2008 | 01:33 PM
  #104  
tdiddy's Avatar
Finally Boosted!!!!!!!
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 0
From: Central IL
That was also with almost 10:1 compression in all 3 chambers of both rotors. The one thing I didn't do was replace my plugs, wires, and coils before the run.
Old 04-30-2008 | 01:37 PM
  #105  
Phish806's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
From: Des Moines, Ia
hmm... with most bolt ons dont people usually get about 200 anyway? 200 seemed like a realistic number to me ... 210, 215 with tuning... hmm.. i guess only time will tell.
Old 04-30-2008 | 04:39 PM
  #106  
cheeto's Avatar
has money, but unsure
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: find bombs, afghanistan
bolt ons dont give you much power, but i imagine that combined with the AP, they can unleash a good amount of power.
Old 04-30-2008 | 04:54 PM
  #107  
Phish806's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
From: Des Moines, Ia
I agree bolt ons do not give you hardly any power... but if stock 8's are dynoing at 180 i do not see why my revi intake and ram air duct, midpipe, catback, Ignition Solution, and underdrive pully all would not give me 20 HP to make it a total of 200 before the AP. Hopefully...lol
Old 04-30-2008 | 05:19 PM
  #108  
cheeto's Avatar
has money, but unsure
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: find bombs, afghanistan
well with your mods, the one that would give the most hp increase would be the ignition solution. you may dyno close to 200
Old 04-30-2008 | 08:01 PM
  #109  
Phish806's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
From: Des Moines, Ia
So, does MM even know about this thread yet? I figured he would chime in with his thoughts and input. Maybe with what he would charge to do our tuning for us, and if he could bring an AccessPort to the dyno for me to buy off of him that day.
Old 04-30-2008 | 08:16 PM
  #110  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 26
From: Under my car
I'm here.
I just don't have anything to contribute.
I've discussed my calendar with CRH, so we have an idea of when we are available.
Once you have settled on a target date, I can let you know if I can block it.
I usually travel with some APs, so getting one on the spot is a possibility.

Originally Posted by devildog1679
Have you spoken to MM about $$? Maybe someone can offer him a room at their place. Will be cheaper then a hotel and probably better for him.
I like my hotels!

Once the date is nailed down, we will discuss expenses. I'm pretty good at keeping them down.
Old 04-30-2008 | 08:56 PM
  #111  
tdiddy's Avatar
Finally Boosted!!!!!!!
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 0
From: Central IL
The shop I have been talking to is Performance Autowerks. They told me the dyno was free on JUNE 7TH and that we should book it soon if we want to get that date.

However, in order for them to allow Jeff to make adjustments they will only allow 10 cars. I don't mind this because I don't want to be there all day like the SoCal dyno day. Plus it looks like we only have about 8-10 people interested right now. If we have 10 cars then the price is $50 each for the dyno. If we have less than 10 the price is $70 each.

We will work out the additional costs for people who want tuning later once I have talked to Jeff about it more.

With this information what does everybody think? Do we want to go ahead and book the dyno or do we want to talk to some other shops?
Old 04-30-2008 | 09:07 PM
  #112  
Phish806's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
From: Des Moines, Ia
Fifty or Seventy dollars, either way i think its a go. Most of us will spend more then Fifty on gas to get there and back home. My vote is to go ahead a block the dyno for that day.
Old 04-30-2008 | 09:11 PM
  #113  
cheeto's Avatar
has money, but unsure
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: find bombs, afghanistan
^ what he said
Old 04-30-2008 | 09:20 PM
  #114  
tdiddy's Avatar
Finally Boosted!!!!!!!
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 0
From: Central IL
I agree and that makes 3 for sure. If we get 2 more people to say book it, I will make the phone call.
Old 04-30-2008 | 09:34 PM
  #115  
Macius8's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 436
Likes: 0
From: chicago
I'm in but I will not be needing a tune. I just want to base dyno before some major upgrades If we do get more than ten people who want a MM tune I will release my spot.
Old 04-30-2008 | 09:51 PM
  #116  
lilring's Avatar
Finally a MT
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,276
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN
i say book it.. im only going to do the dyno and NO tune cuz i dont have the stuff for it. i just want to see what my slow car puts out.
Old 04-30-2008 | 11:35 PM
  #117  
devildog1679's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,202
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Book it

Tdiddy,

How long would we have the Dyno for? If we are short in terms of cars I can a few friends her in Madison if they want to Dyno (350Z and Charger RT)

Last edited by devildog1679; 04-30-2008 at 11:38 PM.
Old 04-30-2008 | 11:36 PM
  #118  
devildog1679's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,202
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I'm here.
I just don't have anything to contribute.
I've discussed my calendar with CRH, so we have an idea of when we are available.
Once you have settled on a target date, I can let you know if I can block it.
I usually travel with some APs, so getting one on the spot is a possibility.



I like my hotels!

Once the date is nailed down, we will discuss expenses. I'm pretty good at keeping them down.
I hope not Five star's
Looking forward to this.
Old 04-30-2008 | 11:42 PM
  #119  
cheeto's Avatar
has money, but unsure
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: find bombs, afghanistan
yes. cant wait (assuming i will be here)
Old 05-01-2008 | 12:28 AM
  #120  
ARRxATE's Avatar
Thread Starter
back out of the garage!
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
what was your cost each again? i'm prolly in no matter where tdiddy sets it up. i might be able to get p&l to play ball, but if not:

I need AP unit + tune!

Yeah!
Old 05-01-2008 | 08:13 AM
  #121  
luis_o_98's Avatar
.
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
im in book it
Old 05-01-2008 | 08:44 AM
  #122  
Phish806's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
From: Des Moines, Ia
After looking at thier website, they use a mustang dyno correct? I thought most people dyno and tune on a dynojet with our cars.
Old 05-01-2008 | 10:23 AM
  #123  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 26
From: Under my car
DynoJets suck. They are just good for bragging numbers.
Old 05-01-2008 | 10:36 AM
  #124  
Phish806's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 950
Likes: 0
From: Des Moines, Ia
Yeah i have always said the same thing about the two.... untill it comes time to get my "bragging numbers" lol.
Old 05-01-2008 | 10:51 AM
  #125  
tdiddy's Avatar
Finally Boosted!!!!!!!
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 0
From: Central IL
The DynoJet usually gives slighly higher numbers, and is best for comparing two different cars in two different parts of the country. Since you are rotating a known mass, there are no calibration settings other than ambient and baro...etc. But is a more apples to apples comparison when trying to compare to cars. You can tune on them, but its more challenging to hit the part throttle points, becuase there is no load on that dyno.

The Mustang Dyno, Dyno Dynamics, DynaPac, etc...are all inertial based eddie current dynos. They use a electical current on the drum, to simulate load. This allows you to hold the load at a specific RPM or throttle point, for better and more precise tuning. However, due to the myriad of calibration settings, it is not very accurate when comparing two cars on different dynos. Also, it is much easier to fudge the numbers to crease higher dyno charts..not that anyone would do that....of course.

My personal opinion is that the load based dyons are much better for tuning, and the dynojets are better for getting comparable HP numbers to compare different cars with one another.
I got this quote from a G35 forum because I agree with what it says. But it all depends on what you want to use the dyno for. Based on our list, I think the majority will want to make some tuning changes so a dynoJet would not be the best for that.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Chicago Cobb Access Port Tuning Feeler



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:52 PM.