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Old 12-23-2008, 08:09 AM
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Is that to remove the bracket that we "relocated" into my trunk / garbage?

Well, almost through a tank of gas since the repair and everything is holding steady. I'm going to visit my pops in Milwaukee from Wed - Sun, so we'll see how it does after sitting for a few days.

If I wasn't out of town, I'd come up and lend a hand on Saturday. . . but, if you all feel uncomfortable letting me near your cars, I understand...

So, any thoughts on capping the intake, installing a smaller catch can with a breather? I'm pretty sure capping the intake is the way to go.

Ryan: what gains is the ignition kit supposed to give you other than sweet red plug wires that are just knock off racing beat wires (poser)

Just a random question because I am thinking about purchasing a winter "beater" for next year because clearly the 8 isn't a fan of winter... so before I go drop another 400-500 bucks on a new set of snows. Does anyone know how to work on mid 90s wrangler 4 banger? I assume it would be pretty simple, but do you guys have thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
Is that to remove the bracket that we "relocated" into my trunk / garbage?
LOL... no, its the bracket that holds the coils.

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If I wasn't out of town, I'd come up and lend a hand on Saturday. . . but, if you all feel uncomfortable letting me near your cars, I understand...
We just wouldn't let you handle the bolts.

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So, any thoughts on capping the intake, installing a smaller catch can with a breather? I'm pretty sure capping the intake is the way to go.
Nothing wrong with a catch can and a breather.
Just get a vacuum cap for the intake (find those cheap at Autozone).
Old 12-23-2008, 08:28 AM
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Ryan: what gains is the ignition kit supposed to give you other than sweet red plug wires that are just knock off racing beat wires (poser)
Official story is it's a maintainance modification. Should provide better reliability than OEM coils and a more consistent spark which will keep the engine healthier and provide some improvement in MPG. It should also reduce the chance of misfires and provides sufficient spark for high HP applications (ie >300whp) which OEM coils can't.

Unofficial story is it probably gives you a few more ponies too but like every bolt on for this car it'll probably be negligible.
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Steve since you still don't have your front plate on I thought this might help you locate the holes for the plate bracket.

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Stupid question of the day.

What do you need to be able to use a regular drill to tighten lug nuts without overtorquing? I actually don't know the name of the adapter.

I have a drill. I never freakin' use it. I have wheels. I take them off a lot. This seems like I should have done this a while ago.
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Ryan,

You are likely to have the opposite problem. The drill won't have enough torque to tighten the wheels enough.

As you know, we change tires alot at the AXs. I use a drill to tighten and take off the lug nuts because it's quicker. But it's not strong enough to "break" them loose or to torque them down. You have to do that by hand.

I'm sure that there's one out there that will, but most won't.
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
Ryan,

You are likely to have the opposite problem. The drill won't have enough torque to tighten the wheels enough.

As you know, we change tires alot at the AXs. I use a drill to tighten and take off the lug nuts because it's quicker. But it's not strong enough to "break" them loose or to torque them down. You have to do that by hand.

I'm sure that there's one out there that will, but most won't.
Dunno. It's a pretty good drill. Bosch refurb ftw.

Really though I just need the thing that you have that replaces the hand-tightening that takes a while. I don't care if it doesn't torque enough but I would care if it overtorqued.

I doubt I'd ever trust anything other than my torque wrench to make sure I'm up to 108lbs. Hell I didn't even trust my wrench the first time I used it and borrowed someone elses to verify it was torquing properly.
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Most of the people at the races use a drill just for that reason. And most of them have a torque wrench to finish it off. I also have a breaker bar so I don't ruin the torque wrench breaking them loose.

I'd be shocked if the drill could torque that tight.
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Ok so what's the adapter I need...

Hey and did you ever get your in-car camera installed?
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A cordless drill will have way less torque than an impact wrench.
Plus you'll need to turn the screw bit around (has 6 sides like a socket adapter) and then use adapters to "upscale" it to 1/4" or whatever size you need.

I would just use a tire iron instead.
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
A cordless drill will have way less torque than an impact wrench.
Plus you'll need to turn the screw bit around (has 6 sides like a socket adapter) and then use adapters to "upscale" it to 1/4" or whatever size you need.

I would just use a tire iron instead.
Something like this work? They have one for 1/4 inch as well. For $4 a shot I'd probably just grab both.

http://www.amazon.com/Makita-785517-...ef=pd_sim_hi_2
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Perfect. Thanks. Although I am officially done with HF parts after the wheel on my jack fell off so I'll find the same thing by someone I trust a smidge more.
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hrmm...Sears Outlet then
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Originally Posted by RK
Perfect. Thanks. Although I am officially done with HF parts after the wheel on my jack fell off so I'll find the same thing by someone I trust a smidge more.
They sell them at most hardware stores. I bought mine on Ebay for $4 total. It's an inexpensive item

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Ryan,
Tomorrow I have an appointment at noon to look at a house, but I'm free after that if you want me to stop by and help or just keep you company.
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If you guys want to come by my house and use the garage and tools, you are welcome to do so. I'm going to put in my puddle lamps tomorrow and I would welcome the company and assistance.

Oh, and nice access to a refrigerator for beer storage is always a go.

Around 1:30 Jon? Ryan??
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Sounds like a fun time... wish I could be there and install some new battery terminal clamps.

Have fun you all!
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If Ryan is up for it, I am.
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Sounds like a fun time... wish I could be there and install some new battery terminal clamps.

Have fun you all!
Your dentist is calling......................make an appt
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Ryan,
Tomorrow I have an appointment at noon to look at a house, but I'm free after that if you want me to stop by and help or just keep you company.
Ok. Doubt I'll need reinforcements until the afternoon anyway. My gauges haven't shown so I'm just doing the pads and coils tomorrow. I might dissemble my dash and get the pod set in.

Doc - my car isn't going to be driveable and there's a very good chance it'll stay up I. Stands even after tomorrow so it can't leave it's winter cave.
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No prob. Good luck you guys.

Stop by for a beer when you're done!
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Put in my puddle lamps on the 40th model. 2hrs for first one, 20 min for second. Really nothing to it, but confusing on paper. Put in red lights, and red interior door lamp too, while I had it open. Goes well with the red dash board. Puddles aren't as bright as I would have expected and I had to cut the wires in. Those stupid wire clips didn't work.

Is it possible to ever open those plastic clips without breaking them. Sheesh.

Got to run both cars for a good while.

How'd it go for you guys?
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Well... Jeff wrote back saying that Cobb is closed for the Holiday until Dec 29th, this is why its taking longer than usual.
He thinks I should get my AP by Jan 2nd.
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
How'd it go for you guys?
Harder than I expected.
I coils are much bulkier than stock, so you really have to squeeze it into place.
Not much room at all and the nuts holding the bracket down could only be installed by using your two index fingers to get it started (and hope you don't drop it into the abyss).

Ryan already had the plugs in when I arrived, so we got the coils installed and it fired up without any problems.

I'm sure I made Ryan nervous when I started taking apart the new coil assembly to see if I could make the installation easier.
When I receive my coils, I'm going to look into a way to redesign the bracket and make installation easier and have the ability to remove one coil at a time (which you can not do with the current setup).
If it sounds reasonable, I might bring it to Ray's (BHR) attention and see what he thinks.


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