docgatorx8er

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Looks cold to be driving in the winter. Try getting some doors.............

Vyndictive

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Whoa... that's wayyyy too nice for any of my applications. I'm thinking more along the lines of '95 YJ with a million miles.

Very nice though - suspiciously nice even.

Trademark

You caught me, Best buy is my cover job im really a grass dealer

Vyndictive

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Ha, funny... but I didn't mean that way. I thought Jeeps were supposed to be covered in mud or otherwise filthy.

A show condition jeep is like a stock rx8 drag car...

That said... can I borrow it for like, a week?



PS - how much for a nickel bag?

tiresmoker

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Are you 4' tall?

RK

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I'm guessing $.05.

So I spent a little bit of time this morning trying to figure out what's wrong with my car when it seems to not be able to start. Down to three possibilities. Ground wire on the ignition kit, broken cat, or the engine itself going **** up. Betting on the first part since I don't hear any rattling and since my engine seemed to be running perfect once she got going.

Also saw that Hymee's supercharge finally went on sale in the states in Fluid's section. Gonna start saving pennies now for either that or whatever BHR puts out there. Damn fine time to own an 8.

At lunch I'm gonna see if I can make my logs into pretty little graphs.

Vyndictive

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Hmm, so you're trying to tweak your accessport huh? Next meet you'll have to explain some of this tuning nonsense to me.
Other than fuel control, what else can you do with the accessport? I know it must be worth a lot since even used ones at 500 bucks sell in 15 minutes on here.

You broke your car too? I must have missed that. Seafoam? ha!


Question for everyone - has anyone ever done much paint work before? Specifically on fiberglass? What process needs to be done and what tools would I need? Doesn't need to be perfect but the idea is to be an improvement over the look now.
I want to paint the body of my bargain bin motorcycle that runs like a champ.


If I can't do it. I'll just cover with numerous bumper stickers and such.

RK

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Car runs great but it just takes forever to start. Crank/crank/crank/crank.... crank/crank/crank.... crank/crank.... ZOOM!

I am planning a seafoam session before taking my car back out. It can't hurt and it is possible that it's just carbon buildup. It is an '04 with 40k miles on it. I'll also take off the ground wire from the ignition kit and recrimp it and attach it to a different grounding point. Jon did the first crimping since I was clueless but I chose the ground point. Maybe it just wasn't a good choice. Doesn't hurt to redo it.

As for the AP I just used it this weekend as a very expensive Water Temp Gauge and to get logs from my cars ECU. To make new tunes I have to use the Cobb RaceTuner program which allows me to modify the Cobb tunes or the base flash we have in our cars. When I get my midpipe I'll try out the Cobb Stage 1 tune and then go from there.

Technically I'm running a 'tuned' car right now as it's using a Cobb 'Stock' tune which has to be installed in order for the AP to mate to my car's computer.

RK

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And no I have no idea what this means. But I think it's supposed to be important.

Vyndictive

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^ ohhh, pretty.

Wow, that looks really important and impressive.

. . . but how does it make you feel?

tiresmoker

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Yeah, that a/f needs smoothed out, especially since you were at 100% load (WOT). That's pretty choppy. Form the looks of it you were short shifting 2nd, and never made it to red line in 3rd?

DeViLbOi

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Yea...one of the guys here said the same thing. Along with too lean in third.

DeViLbOi

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Jon - http://dealnews.com/Motherboard-roun...-h/275000.html

tiresmoker

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wat?

anything below 14.7:1 is rich, anything above 14.7:1 is lean. MAF counts do not equal A/F ratio.

He's running at or below 12:1 A/F except for the one spike at 6,250 rpm. Basically in boosted territory. He is definately on the rich side.

Jon316G

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You forgot to include the starter.
You have an '04 with a weak-*** starter.
Do you recall if it was replaced at anytime?

Doubt its the ground, but safe to double-check.
As long as the ring terminal has a clear path to the chassis (like no rust between), it should be fine.

A bad/clogged cat will increase engine temps, give you a different exhaust tone, a noticeable power lose, and an increase in MPG.
I remember having the option in my AccessPort to view engine temps... might want to see what it is, but I doubt its the cat based on what you've mentioned.

RK

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EDIT: 1 hr of raw track data

http://www.mediafire.com/file/yggqzmjqmzm/Sebring09.zip

I posted the raw data from the AP earlier but the thread paged over. I'll edit and add it but my temps were kosher. I think I got over 220 water temp (221) on an earlier session but that's because I was getting low on oil (around 3/8 a quart each 30 minute session and I forgot to add once between two sessions). I had almost every value available in the AP being logged and the files were only ~500k each for 30 minute sessions. Pretty damn small.

I do still have the weak *** '04 starter. I have starting issues since I got the car so maybe it's just finally letting go. I had it checked 2 springs ago when I had the plugs replaced the first time it wouldn't start after a winter break but they wouldn't replace the starter. And it's not like the thing wasn't starting after that.

I might have it checked over at Westside in the Spring if I can't get it starting better before then.

RK

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Kinda. I was short shifting 2nd because there was only one place on the track where I used it. Only sat in it for a quick two corner sequence then had to get into 3rd quick. The graphing program didn't even pick me up at WOT in the other session I recorded.

I made it to redline in 3rd plenty but I'm sure I was letting off the gas a little before shifting when I was redlining and on the long straights I was trying to beat the buzzer and shift ~8500 to keep my heat down. I wasn't racing anybody and top speed just meant that much more wear on my brakes so I was taking it relatively easy.

I don't know where the graphing program pulled the data from. It's supposed to look through my logs and just pick one period where I'm at WOT in 2nd and one in 3rd but there are a lot more data points to choose from since I would hit WOT in 3rd 4 times each time around the track.

RK

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Right. Stock program is to run rich as ****. Bad fuel economy, flames and stink if you don't have a cat, and a lot of other points of waste. I know the Cobb Stage 1 leans it out a bit and MM's do even more. It'll just be a matter of me figuring out how to accomplish that using the Cobb maps as a base.

I meant to run my last session after installing the Stage 1 but we were in a hurry to get on the track and pack up all our **** and I didn't have time to load it. Woulda loved to have that and a baseline to see the difference. I didn't actually start logging until a few laps into the session. Annoying.

tiresmoker

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Is there a way to graph the entire session?

The datalogging/programming software that I use for my ST and ZX3 has the ability to graph from start to finish, basically any function that I want to see, be it load, maf counts, throttle position, injector pulse, blah blah blah. That way I can go back in and check at certain points (which also have a time stamp associated with them) and see what was actually going on through turns or **** like that.

Then I can go in and adjust my tune accordingly and reflash.

tiresmoker

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I figured as much. Most of the time the "out of the box" tune will be something on the rich side just to make it nice and safe. Once you do datalogging and go back and see what is going on then you can adjust your tune accordingly. Then you can dial your car in to it's specific needs.

RK

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You tell me. Here's the tool that r0tor on the forum here put together:

http://www.enter.net/~justin/RX8.htm

I use Excel to do really, really basic stuff and they just moved me at work to Office 2007 so I'm still trying to sort out where they moved everything to. I can probably tinker with it and make it graph the entire session but it took me 10 minutes just to figure out how to cut out 1-5k on the rpm grid.

tiresmoker

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^^^Sweet. I'll take a look at it when I get home. I'm gonna try and sneak out of work before my boss needs me to do something. lol

Jon316G

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That's one thing that sucks with MM's tune I have installed.
His maps are locked and I can't open them through the AccessTUNER software.
Oh well... safer for me until I know how to properly adjust the tune.

RK

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Did he already send you a tune or are you just using his base maps for now? Hell I missed when you received your AP. You get your coils too?

Jon316G

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I'm currently running MM's base tune. Starts and idles just fine (and no CEL for the midpipe... YEA!)
I should get my coils be the beginning of next month.

I am still debating on if I should wait to perform the tune until I install my clutch kit, flywheel, and HD release bearing.
I wouldn't think so, but I'll shoot Jeff an email and ask.