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03-12-2009, 06:16 PM
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I got the starter and the battery last night so I think I'm going to be able to swap it on Saturday. If you're bored stop down. I'm actually planning on a little recorded experiment where I show how the car is cranking with the 04 starter and a charged battery, how it would crank with the optima and the 04 starter, how it works with the current battery and the new starter, and how it works with the new starter and new battery.
Figure that'll be about as good an education as anyone visiting the forums would need to know before investing in a new battery or starter.
It'll really suck if my car still doesn't start right.
03-12-2009, 06:19 PM
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Oh and I've been meaning to ask. I can't find any 22-18 gauge easy wire splice things. The ones that just clip onto existing wire and provide the T for new wire. Will 16-14 gauge ones work? That's all they had at Advanced Auto.
Gonna finish my damn gauges on Saturday too.
Gonna finish my damn gauges on Saturday too.
03-12-2009, 06:27 PM
#4732
Not a bad idea... would be great for a video DIY on replacing the starter.
I can probably stop by Saturday (if the wife approves since we haven't had a weekend in awhile).
Just in case I can't, here are all you tools you'll need:
I can probably stop by Saturday (if the wife approves since we haven't had a weekend in awhile
).Just in case I can't, here are all you tools you'll need:
- 12mm deep socket for the nut holding the wire terminal
- 14mm deep socket for the two bolts holding the starter in
- A 14mm combination wrench because one of the 14mm bolts goes all the way through to the other side and you need to use the wrench on the front to hold the bolt head while you spin the nut on the back
- An extension for the upper-most bolt
- A breaker bar... mine was REALLY rusted on there
- AND DISCONNECT THE BATTERY
03-12-2009, 06:31 PM
#4733
Using a 16-14 may not give you a good crimp and the wires may be loose inside.
You can always use a butt-splice connection and just feed two wires into one side of the connector.
Then just wrap it with electrical tape.
03-12-2009, 07:42 PM
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So I am bored at work and decided to try one of my 18-14 wire taps on a 20/22 gauge wire I had laying around and see how it holds.
I crimped it and gave it a good tug.
It seems to be in there pretty good, so you should be able to get away with it.
I then decided to show the wires butt-spliced together.
Notice that the resistance is the same between the two methods.
So you can choose whichever method you prefer.
I personally like the butt-splicing method because its easier to wrap with electrical tape.
Plus, I like having everything match to the correct wire size.
I crimped it and gave it a good tug.
It seems to be in there pretty good, so you should be able to get away with it.
I then decided to show the wires butt-spliced together.
Notice that the resistance is the same between the two methods.
So you can choose whichever method you prefer.
I personally like the butt-splicing method because its easier to wrap with electrical tape.
Plus, I like having everything match to the correct wire size.
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03-13-2009, 07:30 AM
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As for the starter install I have everything but the breaker bar which is sitting in the back of a Shinka somewhere between Youngstown and Lakewood...
But I'm sure I'll manage.
03-13-2009, 07:41 AM
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I took some 18-14 taps that I showed in the pic above from work if you need them.
I only have one stipulation.... we don't do this at 8 or 9 in the morning
03-13-2009, 07:46 AM
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If you want my help Saturday I can stop by (and bring a breaker bar).
I only have one stipulation.... we don't do this at 8 or 9 in the morning
I only have one stipulation.... we don't do this at 8 or 9 in the morning
03-13-2009, 08:11 AM
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The devil made me do it
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Jon - nah...swapping just sounds like even more of a hassle for no good reason really. As you have said you really don't notice it unless you go looking for it. And the reason why it matters if you go or not is because I still have your beer in the fridge. Im gonna throw it in the trunk for ya.
03-13-2009, 08:20 AM
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Couple things I'm sad about this morning....
1) Just found out my Xbox360 has a Phillips DVD drive
I'm sure some of you know why I'm sad about this!
2) After my latest MM tune (v4_0_1) my exhaust smell isn't as bad, but I have a harder time popping flames
Curious to see what my MPG is now.
1) Just found out my Xbox360 has a Phillips DVD drive
I'm sure some of you know why I'm sad about this!
2) After my latest MM tune (v4_0_1) my exhaust smell isn't as bad, but I have a harder time popping flames
Curious to see what my MPG is now.
03-13-2009, 08:44 AM
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Ryan if you want I can swing the breaker bar up to you. It's not a big deal really
It's still sitting in my trunk from the autoshow, where I was suppose to give it to you after megan jacked it. That little thief
It's still sitting in my trunk from the autoshow, where I was suppose to give it to you after megan jacked it. That little thief
03-13-2009, 09:20 AM
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That reminds me... we should probably set up our next meet. I'm thinking Boneyard in Broadview Heights in late April. Shoot for the Friday the 24th @ 6 PM.
I'm also thinking we all get together one day when there's an autocross at Northfield. We can use the main parking lot rather than the lot used for AutoX cars. Get a photoshoot of all the RX8s. They're running on the 1st and 3rd Sunday of every month but only 1/2 at Northfield.
