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Old 07-27-2009, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
So you're telling me you want to re-shoot the video?
I'm saying it wouldn't be fair to Racing Beat to have John's rattle represent their mid-pipe.
The whole idea of this video was to show an unbiased comparision between the two mid-pipes.
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Yes...reshoot...RB deserves credit for what they were able to recreate
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
I'm saying it wouldn't be fair to Racing Beat to have John's rattle represent their mid-pipe.
The whole idea of this video was to show an unbiased comparision between the two mid-pipes.
Just embed an annotation stating that the rattle is from the catback and was there before the midpipe install.
Old 07-27-2009, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RK
Just embed an annotation stating that the rattle is from the catback and was there before the midpipe install.
I thought about that, but its so distracting that it'll probably be difficult for some to "tone it out" while trying to listen.
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Originally Posted by RK
Just embed an annotation stating that the rattle is from the catback and was there before the midpipe install.
That's the problem...it wasn't. You remember how after my AP install we said that my tips pointed downward? Well switching from the stock cat to the rb midpipe caused by tips to level out...but in the process the top of the muffler vibrates against the underbody of my car. It causes this horrible rattle noise.
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
That's the problem...it wasn't. You remember how after my AP install we said that my tips pointed downward? Well switching from the stock cat to the rb midpipe caused by tips to level out...but in the process the top of the muffler vibrates against the underbody of my car. It causes this horrible rattle noise.
Buy my intake and that should balance it all out.
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That would make me exactly like the two of them...but at your price I think I will pass.
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Originally Posted by RK
Buy my intake and that should balance it all out.
hmm i may look into an intake since i am getting my money from that guy and i cant get the midpipe i want
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hmm i may look into an intake since i am getting my money from that guy and i cant get the midpipe i want
. . . TJ, . . . I don't get you.

You had an after market intake then sold it... Buy spring... sell springs. Talked about a midpipe or new cat back, but now you're back to an intake?

Did you ever your gauges sorted out? One project at a time. Although I don't have room to talk because I wasn't really in the market for Ryan's stuff either, but when a good opportunity presents itself, one should jump all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake.

I'm actually really thinking more and more about the stockers with the track tires... really thinking. I could paint the wheels red and make the whole club look stupid.


Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
Yes...reshoot...RB deserves credit for what they were able to recreate
HA, admission! Often imitated, never duplicated, Mazsport midpipe!

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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
. . . TJ, . . . I don't get you.

You had an after market intake then sold it... Buy spring... sell springs. Talked about a midpipe or new cat back, but now you're back to an intake?

Did you ever your gauges sorted out? One project at a time. Although I don't have room to talk because I wasn't really in the market for Ryan's stuff either, but when a good opportunity presents itself, one should jump all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake.
hah well then let me elaborate, the intake was causing my car to have problems so i sold it, hah i bought springs and didnt think it through so when i found out i needed dampers i sold the springs due to not having the money for dampers. i want a midpipe but i cant afford/dont care for having the mazsport/RB one, can't afford the exoticspeed and also dont know if i want it, the only one i know for sure that i want is the turboxs midpipe/catback and that wont mount up with the stock cat for e-checks...so thats out. and now that i got my money back for the springs i figured if a midpipe doesnt work out now, no harm in savin up till next year for one and just getting something i know i want and can afford now as a last item before college sorta thing.
plus im just sort of a fickle kinda guy i suppose.

-and doc i already know what your thinking, no i will not put the money towards driving classes

and no the guages arent sorted out yet, since my money is tight before school im focusing less on the cosmetic modifications until next year.
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
That would make me exactly like the two of them...but at your price I think I will pass.
Prices are always negotiable.
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Who all are running the NORA challenge this weekend?
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RK - Honestly Im happy with the stock intake so the price I would offer is insulting.
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Ryan- I took the AP dongle apart and found this:
Akron/Cleveland 8 Owners.-ap-dongle.jpg
You can see that the yellow wire was pinched and has an exposed wire.
This probably occurred during assembly and likely is not causing your current issue since it worked before (but you never know).

I'm also going to ask our material people if we carry mini-USB SM components.
If so, I can just solder a new connector on.
But, I believe we only build circuit boards with type-A USB connectors.
If I can't find this connector, I'll look at it under our scopes and see if I can do anything with it.

I'll keep you posted.
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Ryan- The AP dongle is working again!
Our material people didn't recognize the mini-USB component so we may not have one here.
So I looked at the connector under a scope and could see that the pins are spring loaded and one pin was stuck down.
I took a fine pick and was able to release the stuck pin.
I compressed the spring a few times to verify it didn't stick again, but it always returned.

After that I taped the exposed wire with electrical tape and took it out to my car.
Using your dongle I was able to navigate through the various live data screens and even read the CEL codes that you tried before when it failed.

If you feel more comfortable selling the AP with a new connector, I can solder a new one on for you easily.
You can purchase the connector for $1.12
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....538-67503-1020
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
Who all are running the NORA challenge this weekend?
Just registered... I'm really confused about what exactly this challenge means, but whatever, more runs are better.
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no points...just win or go home
Old 07-29-2009, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
Who all are running the NORA challenge this weekend?

I registered, as well as Jamie. Megan is running as well.


Mark you gotta run. We basically have to shut Eric up because for some reason he thinks HE is the only good driver and is holding the entire club up. He keeps saying we are going to lose again because all of the NORA drivers suck.


I don't know if you noticed but he has been on a "I am god of autocross" trip lately....


Case in point. Megan placed 4th at the Pro Solos (taking a trophy spot none the less woot!) and all he could say to her at the meeting last night was, and I quote... "You should have drove faster and done better" No congrats or nothing.

His attitude is really getting old.



Either way, hopefullly you make it out Mark. You have been doing very well lately and paxing quite high, we could use that on Sunday
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^ Don't be bringin' that drama round here!

So this being a challenge, minus getting runs in, its essentially a waste of time for me. Damn suck at driving nonsense. I need more mods. Maybe I'll mod the driver with some performance enhancing drugs.

Congrats Megan! It sounds like you're doing very well in the Subaru. Co-worker just picked up a 2.5 rs coupe in Pennsylvania someplace for like 2k in okay condition (the transmission doesn't have 3rd gear) Maybe you can talk Brian into, say, not purchasing the sway bars and saving up for that car?
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Thanks for the comments guys heh. The subi fits me well it seems. This weekend shall prove to be interesting... the focus is our FSP car at this point unless the Brighton gets a quick turn around.

Great idea Steve, other than we have enough focus' to work on each weekend And that consumes enough money in beer funds as is for no more cars! lol
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
^ Don't be bringin' that drama round here!

lol drama llama

Originally Posted by Vyndictive
So this being a challenge, minus getting runs in, its essentially a waste of time for me. Damn suck at driving nonsense. I need more mods. Maybe I'll mod the driver with some performance enhancing drugs.
Basically it's a club challange. All clubs are invited to come out to the challange, and they take the top 15 indexed times from each club and add them together. The club with the lowest total time wins the trophy and $500. Not really a waste of time persay, as it's still an autocross and you get experience.

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Maybe you can talk Brian into, say, not purchasing the sway bars and saving up for that car?
Fat chance in hell If she wants a Subi, SHE can buy the Subi. Besides, once I get all of Ryan's swag I'll basically be done with the cars, sans an AccessPort and a short shifter.
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I'm glad you guys will be there Sunday. I have to leave right after for a boy scout campout. So no beers for me. Boy Scouts frown on beers.
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Ryan- The AP dongle is working again!
Our material people didn't recognize the mini-USB component so we may not have one here.
So I looked at the connector under a scope and could see that the pins are spring loaded and one pin was stuck down.
I took a fine pick and was able to release the stuck pin.
I compressed the spring a few times to verify it didn't stick again, but it always returned.

After that I taped the exposed wire with electrical tape and took it out to my car.
Using your dongle I was able to navigate through the various live data screens and even read the CEL codes that you tried before when it failed.

If you feel more comfortable selling the AP with a new connector, I can solder a new one on for you easily.
You can purchase the connector for $1.12
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....538-67503-1020
Very nice work Jon. I think I'd rather not solder on anything so that Ted could RMI this if it happens again and they would probably raise a fuss if it was obvious someone has gone a soldering. He gave the OK for you to do your solder DIY to the ODB pins if you wanted since that can be removed before an RMI but if you've got other things to do don't sweat it.

I'll be down in Fairlawn working on the car all Friday afternoon if you want to stop over.

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Originally Posted by RK
He gave the OK for you to do your solder DIY to the ODB pins if you wanted since that can be removed before an RMI but if you've got other things to do don't sweat it.
I should be able to solder the pins before Friday.
I can probably stop by Friday afternoon.
I'll give you a call when I wake up.
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Where is this NORA challenge this weekend?

NEVERMIND.... I saw on the NORA site that its at Northfield
My friend Miki who drives a TransAM is really thinking about going too.
Steve had the opportunity to drive his LS1 TransAM.

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