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Old 08-12-2009, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
And while I agree with everything you said Brian...I think Eric's point still stands. The point being that the header can offer some serious gains when done properly. Whether or not anyone has done one properly yet I don't know...which I think is what Steve was trying to find out.
Pretty sure that the time and money necessary to make a header that gives significant gains is more than Steve is planning on investing.

FWIW the exhaust system used in by Meyer Motorsports was probably around the same price as a new engine. Maybe more. And it was almost certainly more expensive then more of the turbos/superchargers out there.

Here's Eric's WAG on the RB header:

2). No one on this forum has dyno tested the RB Header so what are your thoughts on it for a street/track (DE) car?

PROBABLY GOOD FOR THE MONEY. CAN'T SAY FOR SURE. LOOKS NICE AND SHORT WHICH SUGGESTS IT FITS EASILY AND BOLTS UP TO THE STOCK LOCATION. I SUSPECT THERE MAY BE 7 HP. TOTAL GUESS. YOU SHOULD TEST IT AND DOCUMENT THE RESULTS!
That '7 hp' number is similar to the 3-5 HP that others have mentioned.

Also worth noting that he spent over 150k on his NA RX8 to get it to 223whp.

EDIT: LOL at this in that Eric Meyer thread:

I have totally forgotten what a stock exhaust looks like.

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tire sale pending!
Old 08-12-2009, 03:07 PM
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I haven't been online much lately. Sorry to hear Jon.

Hope all is well with everyone.

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yeah, also havent been on in a couple days, sorry to hear about what happened jon.

steve, if you want that midpipe of yours you gotta come get it before i move out, which is the 20th. otherwise my dads saying he's gonna give i to a scrap yard since we got my cat in the garage now. so let me know what you wanna do.

and i put my midpipe on today, sounds gooood
kinda louder than i was anticipating tho, but im overall pleased with the sound.
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Congrats on your mid-pipe install.
Glad you were able to get it done without calling an "SOS" to one of us.
Now when the next person comes along and wants help with a mid-pipe, we know who to recommend
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Congrats on your mid-pipe install.
Glad you were able to get it done without calling an "SOS" to one of us.
Now when the next person comes along and wants help with a mid-pipe, we know who to recommend
haha yeahh if you guys are around i think it'd be a bad idea. maybe like a last resort if your all outta town or something lol.

see but now we could do a giant midpipe sound shoot since everyone has one for the most part. me n brian with AP mid pipes, john, steve, and you with mazsport/BHR midpipes. just a thought tho.
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Congrats on your mid-pipe install.
Glad you were able to get it done without calling an "SOS" to one of us.
Now when the next person comes along and wants help with a mid-pipe, we know who to recommend
John...


Thanks to Ryan and Brian for coming out and installing the suspension. Seems to be doing fine... Sorry about the random tool box... but at least I have tools! Jon will admit that is a huge improvement for me. So is using a torque wrench, actually.

Doesn't look any lower, but you can def. tell the difference. I'll wait for it to settle and see whats what... didn't bottom out anywhere, which is good.


TJ. I do want that pipe. I'll arrange something for early this friday, or next week.

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Originally Posted by rotareriot
me n brian with AP mid pipes, john, steve, and you with mazsport/BHR midpipes. just a thought tho.
John has the Racing Beat dual res- Jon+Me have mazsport... no one has BHR. John would have corrected you, but I wanted to beat him to it.

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Nobody has the BHR mid-pipe locally... that is the only one we don't have to compare live.
I wish we did so we can test the BHR, MazSport, and Racing Beat pipes side-by-side with the same cat-back since we have three cars with the AP.
You can't do a fair comparison unless the cars have the same cat-back because it really does change the tone.
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Nobody has the BHR mid-pipe locally... that is the only one we don't have to compare live.
I wish we did so we can test the BHR, MazSport, and Racing Beat pipes side-by-side with the same cat-back since we have three cars with the AP.
You can't do a fair comparison unless the cars have the same cat-back because it really does change the tone.
oh yeahhh i forgot, i meant to say racing beat. i always get that confused when im talking about it.
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okay guys, i think anyone who knew about my litte dilemma with the guy i sold springs to and the whole paypal problem with it will get a kick out of this thread.

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-parts-sale-wanted-44/fs-tanabe-gf210-lowering-springs-cheap-180093/

hah its the guy i sold em to who completely tore me a new one for selling him springs that werent tanabe's and now that he bought a set straight from tanabe he found out they really were all along. ha i feel so good now
Old 08-13-2009, 02:39 AM
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That is priceless. I like how you guys are calling him out on this.
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
Thanks to Ryan and Brian for coming out and installing the suspension. Seems to be doing fine... Sorry about the random tool box... but at least I have tools! Jon will admit that is a huge improvement for me. So is using a torque wrench, actually.

Doesn't look any lower, but you can def. tell the difference. I'll wait for it to settle and see whats what... didn't bottom out anywhere, which is good.

The random toolbox was great. It reminded me of the Family Guy episode where Peter won a boat, but was given the option to take the mystery box.

Glad everything is working out and you don't have any random clunking or ****.

It's more than likely settled aready, but give it about a day or two more and that's as low as it's gonna go. Typically with brand new springs it will take roughly 2-3 days for it to settle completely. Since these were already "broken in" the only thing it really had to do was settle from sitting up in the air for so long.

I do have a question though, what's up with all the horror stories about Steves car? Pretty much everything went flawlessly last night
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I do have a question though, what's up with all the horror stories about Steves car? Pretty much everything went flawlessly last night
Shhhh, she'll hear you. . . . . . . .


No, normally there are numerous stuck bolts, broken bolts, parts missing where there should be parts, and parts where there should be no parts.

Like I asked if that was indeed the stock suspension I had on, because I do find random aftermarket parts on the car. Have for awhile. Jon and I took 6-8 hrs on a midpipe install... that should tell you something about these bolts.
Old 08-13-2009, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rotareriot
and i put my midpipe on today, sounds gooood
kinda louder than i was anticipating tho, but im overall pleased with the sound.
Lemmie know how you feel about the sound after about a week.
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
Shhhh, she'll hear you. . . . . . . .


No, normally there are numerous stuck bolts, broken bolts, parts missing where there should be parts, and parts where there should be no parts.

Like I asked if that was indeed the stock suspension I had on, because I do find random aftermarket parts on the car. Have for awhile. Jon and I took 6-8 hrs on a midpipe install... that should tell you something about these bolts.

For a second I was worried about upper A-arm bolts in the front and the lower shock bolt on the rear spindle. I'm glad those came out. hehe

And 6 hours for a midpipe, damn man, that sucks.

Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
Lemmie know how you feel about the sound after about a week.
No ****. Just wait till it turns into the "bees fighting chainsaws inside a tin can"

AP midpipe sucks big floppy donkey dick. It'll sound good for a few weeks, maybe 3, then the material in the shitty *** resonators will disolve and your car will sound like a pack of wild Civics roaming though the streets of Ricerville.

The only reason I got mine is because John got the deal when he bought his exhaust. Looking back at it now, I think $150 brand new is a ripoff for the piece of **** this thing turns into. Literally it's not worth it's weight in scrap. (no offense to you John, neither of us knew it would end up sounding so shitty over time )

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Im not offended...yer the one that bought the stupid thing. :P
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I should make a potato cannon out of mine That's about all that it is good for.
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Sounds like something to do at Phen's party
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In all honesty, I''m thinking about doing it.

Or selling it on here to some ricer.
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Or selling it on here to some ricer.
I'll buy it!
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I'll buy it!
But it doesn't have any stickers with it...
Old 08-13-2009, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
Doesn't look any lower, but you can def. tell the difference. I'll wait for it to settle and see whats what... didn't bottom out anywhere, which is good.
Good thing because I already blew the money from the sale on strippers. Just so hard to resist a 5 hour lapdance...

Don't forget that the struts are set on soft, near OEM settings so you're not getting much at all from them. When you're going on your next windy trip take a minute and adjust them firmer and you'll really know the difference.

Here's one guy who played around with the settings a bit and should give you an idea of the range.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...t=tokico+shock
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Jon,

Did you every check your coils or happen to talk to Chales about what the resistance should be on the BHR coil?

Just curious
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Good thing because I already blew the money from the sale on strippers. Just so hard to resist a 5 hour lapdance...

Don't forget that the struts are set on soft, near OEM settings so you're not getting much at all from them. When you're going on your next windy trip take a minute and adjust them firmer and you'll really know the difference.

Here's one guy who played around with the settings a bit and should give you an idea of the range.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...t=tokico+shock
I thought you set them to the "middle of the road" setting?

Also, do you remember what size key the fronts were? I know you said 3mm, but was the correct? I know my mystery box has it in there...somewhere.
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
Lemmie know how you feel about the sound after about a week.
hahaa good thing ill already be gone in a week and my car will be sitting.

Originally Posted by tiresmoker
No ****. Just wait till it turns into the "bees fighting chainsaws inside a tin can"

AP midpipe sucks big floppy donkey dick. It'll sound good for a few weeks, maybe 3, then the material in the shitty *** resonators will disolve and your car will sound like a pack of wild Civics roaming though the streets of Ricerville.

The only reason I got mine is because John got the deal when he bought his exhaust. Looking back at it now, I think $150 brand new is a ripoff for the piece of **** this thing turns into. Literally it's not worth it's weight in scrap. (no offense to you John, neither of us knew it would end up sounding so shitty over time )
well guys thanks for the heads up hah. and its a little more than 150$ new, but what do you mean the resonators dissolve? now im just confused....again.

and steve, thanks for sticking up for me on that other forum i hope that guy feels like an ***.


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