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Old 10-06-2009, 11:34 AM
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Steve- Looks like we're on for Friday.
When did you want to start?
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No word on the OMP unfortunately. I thnk everyone right know will be surprised if it passes a compression test, especially if they found the rear seal to be leaking too. Sandy even doubts it will pass.

And Steve, Montrose has always treaded me exceptionally well, so I doubt they will screw anything up on my car. And if they do, I'll just take it back. hahah
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Here's a random question: Do you guys have/use air compressors when working on your cars, or even just around the house?

I was walking out of Home Depot last night and they had them near the registers. One was an open box item that looked mildly interesting, I just don't know how useful they would be if I'm not a gearhead, but do seem to do many small projects around the house. If I did get one, what are your favorite tools, and what is a practical size tank?
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Steve- Looks like we're on for Friday.
When did you want to start?
I'll try to be out of work by 3ish, so up in Streetsboro by 4.15-4.30 with traffic.

Bring your hand pump also... just to make sure its still the SSV causing me headaches.


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And Steve, Montrose has always treaded me exceptionally well, so I doubt they will screw anything up on my car. And if they do, I'll just take it back. hahah
Yeah. . . you'll have to excuse me, I just assume all dealers are the same. And I won't become less bitter overtime because I'm pretty sure Wooster voided my warranty while I was in there... So as time passes, I just get more upset.
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Originally Posted by ngill33
Here's a random question: Do you guys have/use air compressors when working on your cars, or even just around the house?

I was walking out of Home Depot last night and they had them near the registers. One was an open box item that looked mildly interesting, I just don't know how useful they would be if I'm not a gearhead, but do seem to do many small projects around the house. If I did get one, what are your favorite tools, and what is a practical size tank?
Compressors are nice to have around the house. Most normally you would use it to fill your tires...but having them handy for an air rachet or impact wrench can be super handy. They are also really nice for blowing out air filters and just random crap out of a PC. :P
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Bring your hand pump also... just to make sure its still the SSV causing me headaches.
You can check that yourself with a long flat-head screwdriver.
Just push down on the actuator's connecting arm that impacts the SSV positioning switch and see if it moves.
Then let go and see if it returns smoothly and without resistance.
This will tell you if the valve is truly stuck.
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I'll go out there tonight and confirm. I don't know exactly if its the issue, because it isn't as constant as it was last time, it struggles to stay running more now.

I have a few more things to do with the Bronco before it can be my daily driver, so I'm stuck driving the 8 as it is now.
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Originally Posted by Black05Turbo8
So like im curious. i talked to Brice down in florida. when i told him my battery dies like its a religion, he said it could be from the sucky starter killing it. any input on that from you guys?
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A battery should recover from the high draw of a bad starter. Personally I would lean more towards bad alternator. I am interested to hear what Brian and Jon have to say about it though.
Got bored at work and started looking back at posts I skimmed through.
Must of overlooked this one...

One likely candidate for the battery draining is the trunk not fully closed.
Believe it or not, this has been known to happen.
You can easily tell by removing the compartment between the rear seats and see if the trunk light is still on.

Also, take a volt meter to the battery and with the car running, see if you're getting ~14.4 volts.
You can also have the battery tested at Autozone for free.

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Old 10-07-2009, 08:57 PM
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Haven't heard from Tim since this past weekend.
Hopefully he took my advise and got a new slave cylinder.
Just looked-up the cost on OnlineMazdaParts.com and it runs $50.

I just hope he doesn't continue to ride with the clutch in its current state.
He can ruin the clutch we just installed or even worse, the transmission.
This was only meant to be temporarily.
Old 10-07-2009, 09:21 PM
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If he ruins this one too I say he's on his own.

I say test the battery if its the original.
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Well I got rear ended two days ago By an 18 year old in front of the high school go figure. Unfortunately due to weird traffic laws and how the police man decided to take everything she said as fact in his report, I now am going to have to pay a $1000 deductible the rest to insurance to get my front and rear bumper replaced. I have never been in an accident ever so i'm not totally sure how it works. From what I understand though after I get my estimates on costs and everything they pay me back for anything that I had to have fixed?

Story (so you understand why i get screwed and have to pay my deductible even though I was rear ended)

While stopped behind another car (both of us at a dead stop) I was suddenly rear ended by the younger driver and pushed into the car in front of me. (thus why i need both front and rear bumpers) The guy ahead of me gets out of his car looks at the damage says "my car is fine good luck dealing with them" gesturing towards the car behind me. As i turn around I see the mangled front end of the 88 dodge spirit and my heart sinks assuming my car will look as bad. My bumper is cracked in the rear and has several gouges. However I have to hand it off to Mazda engineers my car fared much better. She hit me hard enough that her bumper was knocked in about a foot and her car was dead. Now here is the kicked and where i get screwed, she claims that she was hit into me by another mystery car that has now disappeared. Now I don't want to call her a liar as far as being hit, she very well might have been it all happened so fast I don't really know if she was hit or not. But what sucks is insurance claims that as a hit and run being the fault of the disappearing driver at the end of the line. My only hope is either to find the mystery driver (haha ya right like thats even possible) or for my insurance company to realize that there isn't even close to enough damage on the rear end of her car to equal out to the force it would take to send her propelling into the rear end of my car.

My car= Creased front bumper, cracked front grill, bowed front bumper turn signals don't line up, Cracked rear bumper, cracked black exhaust housing, gap in rear bumper and trunk, gouges etc...
Her Car= inverted front bumper, inability to close hood tightly, inability to open driver side door without getting leverage and pulling, disintegrated left front headlight. And to her rear side......just a cracked rear tail light and maybe and i stress maybe slight bend in the bumper......

Hopefully my insurance company will see that it just doesn't add up...keep your fingers crossed for me.
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Just got a PM from Tim...
He mentioned that the clutch "worked out its kinks" and is working great now.
I'm still a little concerned because that is unusual.
But if it does start acting up again, at least we know where to look.
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Originally Posted by Gopherage
Well I got rear ended two days ago By an 18 year old in front of the high school go figure. Unfortunately due to weird traffic laws and how the police man decided to take everything she said as fact in his report, I now am going to have to pay a $1000 deductible the rest to insurance to get my front and rear bumper replaced. I have never been in an accident ever so i'm not totally sure how it works. From what I understand though after I get my estimates on costs and everything they pay me back for anything that I had to have fixed?

Story (so you understand why i get screwed and have to pay my deductible even though I was rear ended)

While stopped behind another car (both of us at a dead stop) I was suddenly rear ended by the younger driver and pushed into the car in front of me. (thus why i need both front and rear bumpers) The guy ahead of me gets out of his car looks at the damage says "my car is fine good luck dealing with them" gesturing towards the car behind me. As i turn around I see the mangled front end of the 88 dodge spirit and my heart sinks assuming my car will look as bad. My bumper is cracked in the rear and has several gouges. However I have to hand it off to Mazda engineers my car fared much better. She hit me hard enough that her bumper was knocked in about a foot and her car was dead. Now here is the kicked and where i get screwed, she claims that she was hit into me by another mystery car that has now disappeared. Now I don't want to call her a liar as far as being hit, she very well might have been it all happened so fast I don't really know if she was hit or not. But what sucks is insurance claims that as a hit and run being the fault of the disappearing driver at the end of the line. My only hope is either to find the mystery driver (haha ya right like thats even possible) or for my insurance company to realize that there isn't even close to enough damage on the rear end of her car to equal out to the force it would take to send her propelling into the rear end of my car.

My car= Creased front bumper, cracked front grill, bowed front bumper turn signals don't line up, Cracked rear bumper, cracked black exhaust housing, gap in rear bumper and trunk, gouges etc...
Her Car= inverted front bumper, inability to close hood tightly, inability to open driver side door without getting leverage and pulling, disintegrated left front headlight. And to her rear side......just a cracked rear tail light and maybe and i stress maybe slight bend in the bumper......

Hopefully my insurance company will see that it just doesn't add up...keep your fingers crossed for me.
How things go with your claim really depends on the company. For example, when I had my accident State arm towed my car to an authorized shop. They did up an estimate and did the repairs. I paid them my deductible when I picked up my car and everything was straight. My sis was in an accident a couple weeks back. Took her car to the Progressive CSC and was handed a rental. Picked up her car the other day and just paid her deductible. Other companies without preferred body shops will require that you shop around for estimates and then pay you only what they deem reasonable for the work. Hopefully everything with your claim works out homey.

As for the accident and the question of who is at fault. You will need to provide the police report number to your insurance company and any photos that you took personally on the scene, hope you took a bunch. They will investigate the accident and determine if her story holds up even long after they pay out on your claim. If something is fishy and they can prove in court that the story is a lie her insurance company will pay your insurance company. Either way your claim is with your insurance company and they will figure it out in the long run. Don't stress over it,

Btw...as someone who works for an insurance company. You should REALLY look into lowering your deductible. When I lowered mine from $500 to $250 it cost me a whopping $10 a half.
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Sucks... I've always hated Dodge Sprints anyway. Not to mention female drivers who get hit by phantom cars.... if that were the case, there would be some heavy damage on her rear bumper, correct? I mean, for her to get hit hard enough to get hit into you (and cause the damage it did) and cause you to hit the car in front on you... that mystery car would have done some real damage to the back of her car.
Check your photos...


Jon: I think we're still on for today even though the car "appears" to be getting better... I think in my running around today, I'll pull the engine codes just to make sure.
Its slightly different than before, its like the car shutters and tries harder before it stalls. The last time it did this, it just dropped to zero RPM as smooth as can be. This time, it at least tries to idle. Anyway, I'll leave work around 3.00 and try to be up there by 4.00-4.15ish. Again, depending on traffic and this flood.


Lastly... anyone have access to a car trailer that I can borrow this weekend? Saturday only?
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Just got a PM from Tim...
He mentioned that the clutch "worked out its kinks" and is working great now.
I'm still a little concerned because that is unusual.
But if it does start acting up again, at least we know where to look.

Wierd.

Cars just don't "fix" themselves. They don't have that ability Maybe the slave sylinder was just stuck and needed time to work loose agin. I dunno, it seems really odd, but I have seen weirder things happen



BTW, got my baby back on Wednesday night. No oil leaks, and she's running great. Although rather quiet at this point. If the rain lets up for about 45 minutes I'm going to correct that situation.

Also Jon, I pm'd Charles like you suggested. Everything is going to work out as far as the coils go. I will say that he has great customer service
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Ever get the results of your compression test?
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Never did a compression test. didn't need to.


After talking with the tech instead of having the messages relayed through 4 different people to get to me I found out exactly what was wrong.

It was just the front seal. The rear seal was never leaking. They did however have to pull the tranny and clutch pressure plate to get to the nut on the flywheel to remove the pulley to access the front seal. Reason being, the bolts are torqued to some 250 ft/lbs.

Why they didn't just bust the sucker off with an impact is beyond me, but at least I know it went back together right, and properly torqued to spec, rather than just arbitrarily hammering on the bolt for the pulley and having it fall off on me.

The car is running great with no leaks whatsoever (I've put about 150 or so miles on it since I got it back, and yes I did beat on it).

I'm still going to buy a compression tester (twisted rotors) to have so I can monitor the compression throughout the autocross season next year though.

Now I just need to pull the damn stock cat. I dont' like how quiet my car is right now
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Let me know if you'd like to defer some of the cost of the compression tester.
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Originally Posted by Gopherage
Unfortunately due to weird traffic laws and how the police man decided to take everything she said as fact in his report, I now am going to have to pay a $1000 deductible the rest to insurance to get my front and rear bumper replaced. I have never been in an accident ever so i'm not totally sure how it works. From what I understand though after I get my estimates on costs and everything they pay me back for anything that I had to have fixed?
Your insurance company will instruct you as to what you need in terms of estimates. They may steer you to an approved shop that will deal directly with them (be careful - these shops sometimes have deals with the insurance companies whereby they use cheaper non-oem parts - if they hand you a waiver form read it carefully. Probably not a big concern with an RX-8 though). If you want to use another shop you will get an estimate, and/or the ins. co. will send an independent adjuster to look at the car. Some of these guys are overly conservative - show his estimate to your body shop guy and he'll tell you if there's damage he didn't spot. They will work it out in the end.

When you give your statement to the insurance co. be very firm in relaying your belief that there was no phantom car. Police will pretty much write down in a report everything that anyone tells them, and while insurance companies rely on these to get a thumbnail sketch of what happened, they are really only useful insofar as they document physical evidence. In other words, don't fret about the fact that the cop wrote down what she told him.

Your insurance company can subrogate (file a suit) against her for what they lay out, and this would include your deductible. If she has insurance and both of your companies are party to an inter-company arbitration agreement (most are) they will work it out among themselves by having a third party look at the file and ascertain whose fault it was. Tell your insurer that you want them to pursue your deductible. You need to be very firm in your belief that there was no other car - i.e. - you heard no other crash prior to being hit, you saw no other car pull away from the scene from behind, little or no damage to the rear of her car, etc.

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Lots of accidents going on lately though, I must say. . . I'll be happy to put the 8 away for the winter in 3 weeks.
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Tom brings up very interesting and valad points.

Another thing that just popped into my head...

If the ttaillight of the car that hit you was busted by this "phantom car" shouldn't there have been pieces of the lens on the ground from the taillight?
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If the taillight of the car that hit you was busted by this "phantom car" shouldn't there have been pieces of the lens on the ground from the taillight?
Good call!
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Steve, KW Variant 3 coilovers on sale here on forum. You said you might be looking: https://www.rx8club.com/worksconcepts-133/kw-v3-coilover-kits-sale-now-182427/
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Steve, KW Variant 3 coilovers on sale here on forum. You said you might be looking: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=182427
Thanks doc, maybe in a few months... I have another project cooking.
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Steve, KW Variant 3 coilovers on sale here on forum. You said you might be looking: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=182427
dual adjustable = good

progressive spring rate = fail

for the money you spend on kw3's I would save up a a grand or so more and get Motons


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