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Old 01-07-2012, 01:05 PM
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Welcome to the group aaronspeed.

Ok my turn for coil questions. I believe I have original coils in my 04 with approx 70k. Unless one of you have a used set around with lower mileage that you wanted to sell, I was going to order new. I'm 100% stock. Should I go with OEM replacements on this or is the aftermarket a better choice? I'll probably put another 20k on her before I look into selling.

I read some of the BHR threads but they seem pretty pricey and I'm not convinced I would see an improvement that justifies the cost.
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Originally Posted by ngill33
Welcome to the group aaronspeed.

Ok my turn for coil questions. I believe I have original coils in my 04 with approx 70k. Unless one of you have a used set around with lower mileage that you wanted to sell, I was going to order new. I'm 100% stock. Should I go with OEM replacements on this or is the aftermarket a better choice? I'll probably put another 20k on her before I look into selling.

I read some of the BHR threads but they seem pretty pricey and I'm not convinced I would see an improvement that justifies the cost.
My personal opinion on a street vehicle that you do not plan to keep I would simply replace with stock coils.
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Sounds like a plan. Thanks Doc.
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
My personal opinion on a street vehicle that you do not plan to keep I would simply replace with stock coils.
And if you were planning to keep it?
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The advantage in the coils is they're beefier. The stock coils have been found to be "weak" in the long run. If you are going to drive around town and be an "average" driver, they're fine. If you're going to do some track days, push the car to find some limits, want consistent peak performance, and you're gonna keep the car, I'd probably upgrade.

As you know I have 2 cars. The street car uses stock coils and I have no intention of upgrading when I change them The race car has the BHR coils. The way you use your car Tom, it's a value judgement.
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Yeah, it seemed like a pretty touchy subject when I was reading the other threads, and its was tough for me to figure out who the credible ones are.

I was also doing research on seafoaming. Skimmed the DIY then hit up youtube to see if any one posted a video diy. I watched a couple videos of the last step in the process then started reading the posts. The last post comment was hidden due to too many negative votes. I clicked to show comment....

you do not have my consent to post this video

vyndictive 3 years ago


I laughed.

If anyone does Seafoam in the coming months, I'd like to stop by and watch before attempting on my own. I would suggest a seafoam party but from the looks of it NEO's environment should only endure one car at a time.
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Thanks, -05 Grand Touring 6 speed. I was also wondering about the coils since they need to live under 9k rpm. I researched the coil saturation time and the voltage peak hold and the OEM coils and those found for under $30 each have the same ratings if not better voltage peak. I would guess that the later model years have different part numbers since it seems the newer after market units have a faster recovery time.
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I was wondering if anyone has run a cat delete pipe for racing? I am wondering if you get a CEL from the rear o2 not getting hot enough. Thanks
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I run catless. I don't get a CEL but I know some people do.
Old 01-09-2012, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ngill33

If anyone does Seafoam in the coming months, I'd like to stop by and watch before attempting on my own. I would suggest a seafoam party but from the looks of it NEO's environment should only endure one car at a time.
I still have some mazda zoom zoom cleaner which is what mazda uses to de-carbon the car.

I use seafoam twice a year in my vehicles. Normally around oil changes. Can't say this works well or doesn't work, but its what I do.

Reading the seafoam applications, I use it all prior to an oil change. I add the 3rd of the bottle to less than a quarter of a tank of fuel and then drive it for another day or two (If I know I'm doing the oil change saturday, I'll add it on wednesday or something)

The day before, I'll add a 3rd of the can to the oil. I only like to drive 1 start - stop cycle after adding it to the oil.

Ideally, you can immediately add the remaining seafoam to the brake booster line (in most cars) or otherwise get it into the intake manifold as close to the valves as possible (if you have valves ... SSV counts as a valve.)

I then change the oil when the Seafoam is doing its thing on the hot engine. Sucks because the oil is hot when changing. Oh well. Use gloves.

With fresh oil in, that gave the seafoam 20-30 min to do its thing, and then you start it for the smoke show.

Now, some will argue that it doesn't do anything and blah blah. If it does, great, if not, oh well, they suckered me with their crappy product.


I would like to test this stuff though. Perhaps take a carbon covered part, stick it in a kitchen sauce pan with sea foam in it and apply heat to see if the seafoam does anything to the carbon....
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I still have that can I had you buy me when we cleaned my SSV valve. It works great for cleaning guns but I never have put any in the intake or oil since we did the SSV clean.

Does anyone know where the cabin air comes from? Is it just through the regular air intake? The mice are in my car again and chewed through my cabin filter again.... This time there was some strange black foam they built a nest out of and i'm wondering what part of my car that came from. > I'd like to figure out where the air comes from so I can stick a snap trap near it and kill the little ********.
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Thanks for the write up Vyndictive. Interesting test method too.

Gopherage, that sucks the mice are back. <my "I'm not an expert disclaimer"> I had to work on a couple different strategies to stop them from coming into my house. I did find out that they **** to mark their tracks so if that's still around then its more likely they will keep coming back. Maybe a good cleaning would wash away their tracks? I also used steel wool in a couple areas I believed they passed through. I also read that using moth ***** is a bad idea.
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I'd like to figure out where the air comes from so I can stick a snap trap near it and kill the little ********.
I'm bored with our cats. I'll sell them to you cheap.
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If the cats are willing to live on just the mice they catch so I don't have to pay for cat food then i'll take them
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Originally Posted by Gopherage
Does anyone know where the cabin air comes from?
Akron/Cleveland 8 Owners.-blower-unit.jpg

I would check the inlet just above the cabin filters.
Might need to use a mirror and flashlight to see further inside.
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Thanks Jon. How did you get a diagram like that labeling every piece?
Old 01-11-2012, 11:12 AM
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Hey guys I need your opinion on something. There's a group buy going on for stance se3p race coilovers. I'd like your opinions/expertise on them.
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You mean Powertrix?

They look like repainted Stance coilovers. Probably function the same and weigh just as much, which is a god awful amount. I'ts a heavy *** steel body shock that weighs more than the stock ones. Also, if you plan on driving your car in the winter the are going to rust to ****. I got rust on my Stance coilovers and my car never sees winter.

Personally I can't give a good review on the Stance even though I had the Stance coilovers on my car, because my opinion is severely biased now that I have an actual set of pimpy coilovers. Once you get a really good set of shocks on your car everything of lesser quality is just junk, at least from my experience.

I will say this, the Stance worked for me for 2 years and they held up to most of the abuse I and many other co drivers in my car had thrown at them. Would I do it over again though now that I had a taste of something better? No.
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That's all I needed to know what would you recommend for my car? I want a set that I can race with but is still good on the street. My wheel ratio is going to be smaller so I want to drop my car a bit. An inch or so maybe a little more. If possible eliminating some body roll. I do plan on buying a sway bar later on.
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Would a shock/spring combo maybe be better? Koni yellows with tein s/h-techs?
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It all depends on what you are ultimately trying to do with the car and how much you want to spend. Do you want to have the ability to adjust your ride height without changing springs? Do you want to be able to adjust your shock settings? Are you looking for the ability to corner balance the car? How serious do you want to get with it?
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Basically what I want is a bolt and forget type deal. Tighter and more planted in corners with a set height. Bound rebound valving and all those terms I don't understand, let alone be able to adjust myself. I just don't know what it all means. So I think for me what would be best is a starter coilover or shock/spring combo that's easy to understand.
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Group buy Brian!!!
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I think the koni yellow with s-techs is the way to go. 1.4/0.7 drop and I can adjust the stiffness as I like. then a couple years down the road I can upgrade to something more adjustable when I've got more track time under my belt.
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I may or may not have a used set of yellows available for sale. Give me a couple days. We're working on my shocks now too. I have my old set as a backup. One is brand new in the box.


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