Landon

Im down for saturday

Mandy

So Saturday it is!

ecxel

hmm.. b on b huh.. didn't see that one.. i saw 2 rx8 the other in the commons garage... one red and one yellow... i drive a 6speed titanium gray ! i go to class at night..

Landon

Hey guys, I know this will be a repost but I thought I would put it in here anyway under the assumption that some did not search for it because they did not know about it so put the flaming blow torches away! This is especially important news for some people that are new to the group and those that bought used RX8’s…

"RotaryNews.com has confirmed that there will be a recall on the 2004, 2005 and some 2006 Mazda RX-8s. Not every RX-8 will need a new engine, only those that fail a series of tests, including a new vacuum test. The replacement engines will correct for issues ranging from flooding, hard starting, complete loss of compression, and use of Synthetic Oil in hot climates. For those that do not require an engine replacement, the ECU will be reflashed to provide for more lubrication (an already released Flash). Recall notice letters will be sent out to owners on a staggered schedule. At this point some dealers do not know about the recall, as the bulletin has not been sent.

Jeremy Barnes from Mazda Public Relations stated: "We will not walk away from any Mazda owner." Jeremy also pointed out that other issues that have escaped on the Internet as of late were only part of the story. He hopes the recall action by Mazda will show owners that Mazda is doing the right thing after all.

We at RotaryNews say, if you own an RX-8, check over this list of TSB's. If your car is experiencing any of the issues listed on that page, print out the ones that apply to you, and bring them down to the service department while they check your car for the other recalls. We, at RotaryNews also say: "if in doubt, do NOT use Synthetic Oil." For those of you that are "Rotary Gods" (!) and know what you are doing, it is OK, other wise stay away from synth, and use the good old Dyno Juice."

In short all of us with 2004 - 2006's will probably be getting new engines or at the very least a new ECU flash. This recall is 100% voluntary so you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to. Those of you who get the notice and want to do it and have a turbo… you may want to take the turbo off before going to the dealer… just an FYI. If you bought it used and your not sure if Mazda has your info to send you the recall notice, you may want to call Mazda North America Operations and see what you have to do.

Mazda North America Operations
1-800-222-5500
Our business hours are Monday through Friday:
8:00AM - 4:45PM (Pacific)
9:00AM - 5:45PM (Central/Eastern)

Cokerx7

Well i'll have to notify this red rx8 person thats on Morgans Campus (where i go to school).. it looks like they just got it.. cuz it still have carmax tags on it..

Now only if they can do rx7's.. cuz alot of us have problems.. cuz parts gettin old.. :-D

Cokerx7

Sat i have to work at 3-10.30pm.. the nights are gettin cooler and i can run over 4Krpm all day w/0 worring about the car over heating.. :-D

Mandy

Landon

Thats it! We are kidnapping your ***! As far as the friend with the 8, he needs to take it back to carmax and get it from a mazda dealer! I doubt carmax knows anything about a rotary engine.

Landon

Well its official...

After talking with Mazda North America Operations and my car dealer, my RX8 (Late 2005 RX8 GT) qualifies under this recall. I wont know if my car needs a new engine or just some simple work done until I drop it off on monday so they can start their testing of the car. I would advise people to start calling their dealer to see if their car falls under this recall. Hmmm if they do replace my engine I wonder if I can sweet talk them into popping in a 20B engine

thebiggdaddy

So, the mazda salesman calls me today. Basically, you had to fill out a survey if you wanted to have a really nice car wash for free. I answered the survey as honest as possible. I checked most of the boxes "dissatisfied." He called me to basically argue about the survey. I got so angry and told him that i was being honest. basically what happened during the purchase of the 8, he always put me on hold when i'd have questions about the car and stuff (pricing and status). and when i called him at opening time, he said he would call me back as soon as possible. But the funny thing is that he never did. I had to call him right before they closed, and he told me that he had a customer the whole day. that is understandable if it happens once, but this **** happened four times during the week. He would not update me about the car at all. Also, he gave me an original pricing of the car, and then changed it because he said it was a mistake? When i got the 8, the visor was already broken because another salesman broke while doing something. He was basically a jerk about it. I was yelling at him. Haha, he told me that i cant even get my first oil change for free anymore because the survey wasnt good. what a ***. he also said told me to ask somebody else about the car wash b/c he doesnt want to deal with me? i was about to raise hell up in Russel Mazda. Seriously, dont go there. People are just madd disrespectful about customers in general. I'm goin to talk to the manager hopefully tomorrow and ****** raise hell. haha, sorry it was long, but i thought i should share.

shawn81

oh man i wish something like that happends to me i will take it all the way to the mazda rep and get that F*** face of the salesman gone for good. also would try so get something free from the dealer. Don't go easy on them man ..

Landon

Oh jesus... I got my RX8 from russell too. Who was your salesman? Also PM me your real name and phone number. IF your salesman isnt the same as mine (which i hope it isnt because my guy is one of the FEW people I give props to @ russel) I will get that dick of a salesman taken care of. If it is the same person who sold me my car I will have a talk with him and the sales manager Gil. I know them both because I blew up on management once (but they managed to calm me down and get **** str8 the first time). Also I know the person in service (they Brought my girl Samantha back who is ******* awsome) so I can also work on getting that oil change and car wash taken care of.

ecxel

how is the service at russel mazda? i was trying to buy a rx8 from them and i wantd to test drive it. they asked me if i was going to buy one today and i said depends if i like it because how can i buy it if i don't like it. then the sales person or manager was like then "No". Also i was in the service department trying to buy a cabin air filter for my mazda6 and i stood there for 30 mins getting no help. Should i take my rx8 into that dealer for service and recall? or should i go somwhere else... i'm coming from columbia MD...

thebiggdaddy

His name is Bill Harris. I just went today around 11:30 and talked to the manager. He didnt do **** to make this situation any better. It seemed like he was taking sides. I'm just so ****** pissed right now. i told him what happened and the only thing he says is "why did you buy the car from us?" i told him "is it my fault for being honest? i didnt do anything wrong. i didnt do it on purpose." [survey] I also said that the internet salesperson transferred me to this salesman so what the **** was i supposed to do. The internet person didnt tell me other dealers that i could go to. In addition, he kept telling me to think about it in bill's point of view. so i kept asking him "are you taking sides?" and he was saying "no i'm not." i said "then what point are you trying to make by telling me to see it from his side. I was just being honest." I'm just so ****** steamed. If i ever see these guys outside of the dealer, i'm seriously goin to **** them up. dont ever go to Russell for anything. ****** ****.

thebiggdaddy

dont ****** go. before i bought my 8, people were telling me russell mazda was bad to start with meaning the way how they treat their customers were horrible. I didnt know what they meant by that until these past two days.

PeteC

Go to Rich Morton in Glen Burnie. Talk to Frank Titus, he's the Mazda service writer. I've had good dealings with him on some warranty work on the 8. Other's on the board have also had good luck with them.

Landon

Ok I called my guy down there and he told me there isnt much he can do right now because it wasnt his sale and cant give the free carwash without the survey BUT he did pass me the info of the General Manager and his info. He wanted me to tell you to call him if you feel that none of your issues were resolved. The guy's info is below...


Rick Baker - General Manager, Mazda, Suburu, VW
RBaker@russelautomotive.com
410-744-2300 - Main number...Ask for rick directly
His office is located in the VW building at the dealership if you want to hunt him down personally.

Also if you want to mail him too here is the info for that:

Rick Baker - General Manager
Russel Mazda
6624 Baltimore National Pike
Catonsville, MD 21228

If you do mail a letter also send a copy of it to Mazda North America Operations:

Mazda North American Operations
P.O. Box 19734
Irvine, CA 92623-9734
Attn: Customer Assistance Center

and / or call them and file a complaint @ 1-800-222-5500

Also you can file the complaint here too... http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/emailMazda.action

I personally would call the GM and mail him and send a copy to mazda as well was filing a complaint over the phone and internet. Make sure you get their attention. Im sorry you have had so many issues with them, I guess I lucked out and got the only good 3 people down there who take care of my problems right away

An alternative is to use Rich Morton which gets rave reviews from people or go to Fitsgerald auto mall in annapolis (which is a mazda dealer) and ask for Scott in service directly. Also there is a guy down there named Jimmy (James) Small... I went to HS with him. He is good people and would gladly help you out. Since they are being dicks at russel Ill pay for a carwash for ya down at Dolly's on 40... Their people do a pretty good job over there.

Landon

Given whats going on I would go to another dealer to avoid issues. I may actually do the same and check out Rich Morton and see what they have to offer in terms of service.

RenoIV

Try Rich Morton Mazda. I've been dealing with Frank Titus since I bought my 8 there ... he is a straight shooter ... I would stay away from Russell on rt 40 did not have good experiences there working on my Millenia ''S" or my 88 GXL

If you haven't read about the recall on the 8 check out the Recall Thread in Media News This may be the longest thread on the site ... it's now 112 pages and growing.

There is another interesting thread in the Tech Garage Issues and Problems with Feedback about the recall.

Enjoy the Drive!

Cokerx7

Hey people.. How things?.. Nothin new to the 7.. its still runnin just fine.. gotta fix my head light though.. havin a shortage.. i'll probably do it tomorrow or something..

Landon

Well well well... The coke man still lives LOL

Where you been man?

snwboardr9876

Anybody here rocking the AEM cold air intake? My check engine light is on for two reasons...something about the EVAP control and the other reason is some kind of sensor issue, its not the MAF sensor but the other one thats right next to it sort of( cant remember what its called). Anybody else have these problems?

Landon

You mean teh VAFD sensor? Your light might be on because the intakes on the 8 need mesh screens (like in the stock air filter and the RB) to correct the airflow to the sensor. Does the AEM have those screens?

snwboardr9876

Okay heres what the printout says, I had to get off my lazy butt and get it outta the car. "MAF or VAF Circuit High Input" and "EVAP Emission Control System Leak Very Small"

On the throttle body theres this little nipple(couldnt think of another word lol) that comes out and it use to have a hose on it that went somewhere into the airbox. The directions told me to put the supplied vaccum cap on this nipple but the cap they gave me was too small and wouldnt fit so I put some tape on it till I could find a bigger one. I still dont know where to get one at. Nobody has them, Autozone, Advanced, Pep Boys, Vivid, Gw motorsports...nowhere. And the directions also never told me to do anything with that other sensor...the VAF sensor Im guessing, so its just hanging there right now. It has a green end and used to be plugged in somewhere around the bottom eof the airbox.

oh yeah it does have a screen in there

Im_DANomite

iTrader: (1)

bruce, the sensor is most likely the MAF. the green connector is for the VFAD, so you don't need it. the cap doesn't have to be plastic. it can be a rubber vacuum cap. any parts store should have them.

find a cap and plug it. make sure the MAF is connected securely. delete the faults, you shouldn't see them again.