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05-09-2012, 09:21 AM
Definitely agree with this but this. I think Eric's FEED FD is a great example of a well built and I'm sure it would take down well modified 8s. The scope of this discussion is going everywhere though. I think it breaks down like this...
Stock
8 > FD
Well modified
FD > 8
Money
$$$$ > FD/8
I was actually going to mention the Japanese tuners as well and what car they use but they are worlds away from us in terms of resources and money. They could turn a geo metro into a race car if they wanted.
Stock
8 > FD
Well modified
FD > 8
Money
$$$$ > FD/8
I was actually going to mention the Japanese tuners as well and what car they use but they are worlds away from us in terms of resources and money. They could turn a geo metro into a race car if they wanted.
05-09-2012, 10:04 AM
Well especially you guys that switched from rx8 to rx7 ... how do you feel about your decision looking from a performance, handling, and easy to drive aspects
Its hard to word exactly what my priorities are, basically I want more power without sacrificing handling too much.
However, I do not want a car that would be impossible to control. After turboing my rx8 I know that power and control are inversely proportional.
I understand that the FD will be harder to drive, but how much harder is the question.
I plan on keeping my turbos stock, but convert to non sequential, stock porting, get suspension(full adjustable coilover). Basically I wanna race in the street prepared class. I will prolly pull a/c and convert to manual steering. I may try to put in rx8 electric steering, but I am not sure. What is the ceiling on stock turbos? 330whp?
Either way, I am compression testing the thing first.
Its hard to word exactly what my priorities are, basically I want more power without sacrificing handling too much.
However, I do not want a car that would be impossible to control. After turboing my rx8 I know that power and control are inversely proportional.
I understand that the FD will be harder to drive, but how much harder is the question.
I plan on keeping my turbos stock, but convert to non sequential, stock porting, get suspension(full adjustable coilover). Basically I wanna race in the street prepared class. I will prolly pull a/c and convert to manual steering. I may try to put in rx8 electric steering, but I am not sure. What is the ceiling on stock turbos? 330whp?
Either way, I am compression testing the thing first.
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05-09-2012, 10:13 AM
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are any of you guys coming down to the grand am race this sunday in Millville NJ?
http://njmp.com
Its $45 to park in the mazda corral.
http://store.njmp.com/store/product/...R-CORRAL-SUN./
with the mazda corral ticket You get 15minutes of karting, $5 gift card to use the day, a parade lap after the race... uhh..
i THINK you can dino youre car for like $20, im not positive.
http://njmp.com
Its $45 to park in the mazda corral.
http://store.njmp.com/store/product/...R-CORRAL-SUN./
with the mazda corral ticket You get 15minutes of karting, $5 gift card to use the day, a parade lap after the race... uhh..
i THINK you can dino youre car for like $20, im not positive.
HOLY CRAP ^
I forgot about this....
Im down... went last year... had a awesome time
Just be warned...when we went..... no lap... no giftcard.... nothin..... lol..
The only plus is you park with your fellow mazdas... not with the general public... which to me was worth the money
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I wonder what this is gonna cost. looks promising though.
http://www.tracmac.com.au/products1.html
http://www.tracmac.com.au/products1.html
05-09-2012, 06:12 PM
hey guys, i posted this in my spring install thread, im really pissed off.
if anyone is local to me i dont mind paying you guys to get the work done but not at $95 an hour. Ill buy you food/beer/just cash whatever (no ******** or sexy time) to help me do **** to my car.
only thing that cant happen is.. lets say i come to you, we dont finish for some reason and then i dont have a car for a week.
i know benny lives extremely close to me and helghast7 lives close, but im not imposing on them. I have no experience working on cars and everything takes me forever. working with you guys will strengthen my knowledge i would think, and would prepare me for the disaster that is financially disastrous.
when the fd comes i couldnt care less if the job takes a month to complete since it wont be my daily and will hardly be driven as much as the 8.
so im pretty enraged right now and need to blow off some steam.
i brought my car to the shop. i told them to take the front springs and put them on the back, and take off the back oem and put the sprint springs on the rear. his rate is $95 an hour but it was alot for a kid so he put it to $75.
He looked it up online and it said it would take 5.2 hours of labor, during the install that started at 2:30pm, he started working on it, then the engine swap that was happening next to my car one of the guys lost some tranny bolts and spent 3 hours looking for them.
after about 15minutes he continues working on my car and tells another guy to keep looking for the bolts.
30 min pass by worth of working and then another guys pulls up and he walks over and starts diagnosing the shitty hondas problem, 45 minutes pass by and he comes back.
basically... it takes him 3 hours from 2:30 to 5:36 NOT including the 45 minutes and 15minutes he spent NOT working on my car. incase you cant do math its $225 for 3 hours.
when i went to pay he said it was $390 and i was like whaaat? you guys started at 2:30 not 12:00.. i watched you first start the car. He then said oh no well its a flat rate, im giving you a discount of $75 instead of $95, and that they were required to charge you a flat rate because if i had all rusted bolts and it took 9 hours to complete then they would still charge the flat rate, i said thats fine but it took you LESS time, 2.2 hours LESS they said it didnt matter.
when i brought my exhaust in to them, it took 45 min and he charged me a fraction of the 95 his usual rate. so i figured he would do the same here. The 5.2 hours was a estimate. NOPE now its a flat rate all of a sudden.
so i said hey how about you charge me for the actual 3 hours and charge me $95 an hour, then he said no its the flat rate of $390.
this is complete bull ****, Rotary-Rx8 was charged $200 for his spring install. it should have costed me $225.
i was taken advantage of because im just a kid. Im not taking my car there anymore. I wish i knew he would charge me a flat rate no matter how long it took, i would have went elsewhere, first time ive seen him with a ramrod up his *** and acting this bitchy.
i bring my car there, my mom brings hers, my brother brings his, my brother referrs his friends there and his girfriend goes to the same shop.
i know it may not seem like much, and unfortunately im going to use the statement all of you guys hate "i am a college student with little to no money" i spend 20hours a week in classes and atleast 20-35 working on projects for class, im majoring in industrial design. I know i shouldnt have gotten this car if i have no money but im making it work and doing all of the required maintenance, i dont eat breakfast or lunch to be able to save money.
whatever, its done. Im looking into other shops in the area, one that wont rip me off. Hopefully he gets a hole through his direzza in his evo, so he wastes that money he ripped off of me. I was talking to one of his workers and i asked if i could rent him out for less than what the shop charges and he said yeah, hes only making $8.00 an hour, so i will be stealing his work.
sorry for the volume of novels i wrote here.
if anyone is local to me i dont mind paying you guys to get the work done but not at $95 an hour. Ill buy you food/beer/just cash whatever (no ******** or sexy time) to help me do **** to my car.
only thing that cant happen is.. lets say i come to you, we dont finish for some reason and then i dont have a car for a week.
i know benny lives extremely close to me and helghast7 lives close, but im not imposing on them. I have no experience working on cars and everything takes me forever. working with you guys will strengthen my knowledge i would think, and would prepare me for the disaster that is financially disastrous.
when the fd comes i couldnt care less if the job takes a month to complete since it wont be my daily and will hardly be driven as much as the 8.
so im pretty enraged right now and need to blow off some steam.
i brought my car to the shop. i told them to take the front springs and put them on the back, and take off the back oem and put the sprint springs on the rear. his rate is $95 an hour but it was alot for a kid so he put it to $75.
He looked it up online and it said it would take 5.2 hours of labor, during the install that started at 2:30pm, he started working on it, then the engine swap that was happening next to my car one of the guys lost some tranny bolts and spent 3 hours looking for them.
after about 15minutes he continues working on my car and tells another guy to keep looking for the bolts.
30 min pass by worth of working and then another guys pulls up and he walks over and starts diagnosing the shitty hondas problem, 45 minutes pass by and he comes back.
basically... it takes him 3 hours from 2:30 to 5:36 NOT including the 45 minutes and 15minutes he spent NOT working on my car. incase you cant do math its $225 for 3 hours.
when i went to pay he said it was $390 and i was like whaaat? you guys started at 2:30 not 12:00.. i watched you first start the car. He then said oh no well its a flat rate, im giving you a discount of $75 instead of $95, and that they were required to charge you a flat rate because if i had all rusted bolts and it took 9 hours to complete then they would still charge the flat rate, i said thats fine but it took you LESS time, 2.2 hours LESS they said it didnt matter.
when i brought my exhaust in to them, it took 45 min and he charged me a fraction of the 95 his usual rate. so i figured he would do the same here. The 5.2 hours was a estimate. NOPE now its a flat rate all of a sudden.
so i said hey how about you charge me for the actual 3 hours and charge me $95 an hour, then he said no its the flat rate of $390.
this is complete bull ****, Rotary-Rx8 was charged $200 for his spring install. it should have costed me $225.
i was taken advantage of because im just a kid. Im not taking my car there anymore. I wish i knew he would charge me a flat rate no matter how long it took, i would have went elsewhere, first time ive seen him with a ramrod up his *** and acting this bitchy.
i bring my car there, my mom brings hers, my brother brings his, my brother referrs his friends there and his girfriend goes to the same shop.
i know it may not seem like much, and unfortunately im going to use the statement all of you guys hate "i am a college student with little to no money" i spend 20hours a week in classes and atleast 20-35 working on projects for class, im majoring in industrial design. I know i shouldnt have gotten this car if i have no money but im making it work and doing all of the required maintenance, i dont eat breakfast or lunch to be able to save money.
whatever, its done. Im looking into other shops in the area, one that wont rip me off. Hopefully he gets a hole through his direzza in his evo, so he wastes that money he ripped off of me. I was talking to one of his workers and i asked if i could rent him out for less than what the shop charges and he said yeah, hes only making $8.00 an hour, so i will be stealing his work.
sorry for the volume of novels i wrote here.
05-09-2012, 06:15 PM
HOLY CRAP ^
I forgot about this....
Im down... went last year... had a awesome time
Just be warned...when we went..... no lap... no giftcard.... nothin..... lol..
The only plus is you park with your fellow mazdas... not with the general public... which to me was worth the money
I forgot about this....
Im down... went last year... had a awesome time
Just be warned...when we went..... no lap... no giftcard.... nothin..... lol..
The only plus is you park with your fellow mazdas... not with the general public... which to me was worth the money
i parked in the general public last year and it was quite spacious, 80% of the people who go there, park in the respective corral. So the corrals tend to be tighter packed than the general public, though the gen public was in a mudslide of a parking lot that was 98.9% mud. I remember 2 cars getting stuck in the mud.
05-09-2012, 06:16 PM
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Where are you at?
I may be able to help, as I pass through the northern part of NJ (I-80/280) regularly, and have done the rear shocks (which includes the spring removal/replacement) on my 8 without issue. Fronts are roughly a bit easier. Have all the tools.
Not sure the timing though
Have a garage at all?
I may be able to help, as I pass through the northern part of NJ (I-80/280) regularly, and have done the rear shocks (which includes the spring removal/replacement) on my 8 without issue. Fronts are roughly a bit easier. Have all the tools.
Not sure the timing though
Have a garage at all?
05-09-2012, 06:57 PM
unfortunately i already paid and have them done.
i have a 2 car deep garage(though the ground isnt level)
i have all tools except for jack stands.
i live in north eastern essex county NJ, in Glen Ridge, next to montclair and bloomfield, 15-30min from newark.
my grandmothers house with a huge deep driveway that is flat (but usally full with plants) is in Union City NJ, in bergan county, right next to jersey city and literally a 10 min drive to edgewater starbucks.
im free until september, i finished school and im on summer break. If i need you for anything at all i dont mind going to you or whatever makes it most convenient for you. I just cant pay more than 40 an hour.
Im 19 so i cant really go out and buy you beer if i were to come to you, but if you were to come here i could... procure whatever your heart desires(that is available in my local liquor store)
I basically want someone to look over my shoulder and say, yeah you can pull that, it wont break your car. This is how you do this, etc etc. id pay you obviously less if you didnt want to help.
id rather pay you or someone else from here that actually needs the money for their rotary, than give it to some guy who told me i didnt need to preload the springs, which i forced him to do.
i have a 2 car deep garage(though the ground isnt level)
i have all tools except for jack stands.
i live in north eastern essex county NJ, in Glen Ridge, next to montclair and bloomfield, 15-30min from newark.
my grandmothers house with a huge deep driveway that is flat (but usally full with plants) is in Union City NJ, in bergan county, right next to jersey city and literally a 10 min drive to edgewater starbucks.
im free until september, i finished school and im on summer break. If i need you for anything at all i dont mind going to you or whatever makes it most convenient for you. I just cant pay more than 40 an hour.
Im 19 so i cant really go out and buy you beer if i were to come to you, but if you were to come here i could... procure whatever your heart desires(that is available in my local liquor store)
I basically want someone to look over my shoulder and say, yeah you can pull that, it wont break your car. This is how you do this, etc etc. id pay you obviously less if you didnt want to help.
id rather pay you or someone else from here that actually needs the money for their rotary, than give it to some guy who told me i didnt need to preload the springs, which i forced him to do.
05-09-2012, 09:19 PM
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help a brother out https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/asking-quick-favor-my-rx8-buddies-233009/
05-09-2012, 09:29 PM
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unfortunately i already paid and have them done.
i have a 2 car deep garage(though the ground isnt level)
i have all tools except for jack stands.
i live in north eastern essex county NJ, in Glen Ridge, next to montclair and bloomfield, 15-30min from newark.
my grandmothers house with a huge deep driveway that is flat (but usally full with plants) is in Union City NJ, in bergan county, right next to jersey city and literally a 10 min drive to edgewater starbucks.
im free until september, i finished school and im on summer break. If i need you for anything at all i dont mind going to you or whatever makes it most convenient for you. I just cant pay more than 40 an hour.
Im 19 so i cant really go out and buy you beer if i were to come to you, but if you were to come here i could... procure whatever your heart desires(that is available in my local liquor store)
I basically want someone to look over my shoulder and say, yeah you can pull that, it wont break your car. This is how you do this, etc etc. id pay you obviously less if you didnt want to help.
id rather pay you or someone else from here that actually needs the money for their rotary, than give it to some guy who told me i didnt need to preload the springs, which i forced him to do.
i have a 2 car deep garage(though the ground isnt level)
i have all tools except for jack stands.
i live in north eastern essex county NJ, in Glen Ridge, next to montclair and bloomfield, 15-30min from newark.
my grandmothers house with a huge deep driveway that is flat (but usally full with plants) is in Union City NJ, in bergan county, right next to jersey city and literally a 10 min drive to edgewater starbucks.
im free until september, i finished school and im on summer break. If i need you for anything at all i dont mind going to you or whatever makes it most convenient for you. I just cant pay more than 40 an hour.
Im 19 so i cant really go out and buy you beer if i were to come to you, but if you were to come here i could... procure whatever your heart desires(that is available in my local liquor store)
I basically want someone to look over my shoulder and say, yeah you can pull that, it wont break your car. This is how you do this, etc etc. id pay you obviously less if you didnt want to help.
id rather pay you or someone else from here that actually needs the money for their rotary, than give it to some guy who told me i didnt need to preload the springs, which i forced him to do.
Just give me some lead time notice, doesn't have to be a weekend either, since I work from home several days a week.
05-09-2012, 09:33 PM
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Well especially you guys that switched from rx8 to rx7 ... how do you feel about your decision looking from a performance, handling, and easy to drive aspects
Its hard to word exactly what my priorities are, basically I want more power without sacrificing handling too much.
However, I do not want a car that would be impossible to control. After turboing my rx8 I know that power and control are inversely proportional.
I understand that the FD will be harder to drive, but how much harder is the question.
I plan on keeping my turbos stock, but convert to non sequential, stock porting, get suspension(full adjustable coilover). Basically I wanna race in the street prepared class. I will prolly pull a/c and convert to manual steering. I may try to put in rx8 electric steering, but I am not sure. What is the ceiling on stock turbos? 330whp?
Either way, I am compression testing the thing first.
Its hard to word exactly what my priorities are, basically I want more power without sacrificing handling too much.
However, I do not want a car that would be impossible to control. After turboing my rx8 I know that power and control are inversely proportional.
I understand that the FD will be harder to drive, but how much harder is the question.
I plan on keeping my turbos stock, but convert to non sequential, stock porting, get suspension(full adjustable coilover). Basically I wanna race in the street prepared class. I will prolly pull a/c and convert to manual steering. I may try to put in rx8 electric steering, but I am not sure. What is the ceiling on stock turbos? 330whp?
Either way, I am compression testing the thing first.
no ****** cup holders
just raw sports car, you and the road, no traction control, abs that barely works, nothing to save you from a mistake but your brain and quick reflexes, stiff chassis raw sports car
as for ur car quests, dont be silly, can those POS twin turbos, going nonsequential does NOT make them reliable, twins will take a **** on you no matter what, just junk them and go single turbo
and this is speaking from experience having only driven the car for 13k miles and already going on my 3rd set
how much are u trying to get this car for anyways?
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05-09-2012, 09:34 PM
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Definitely agree with this but this. I think Eric's FEED FD is a great example of a well built and I'm sure it would take down well modified 8s. The scope of this discussion is going everywhere though. I think it breaks down like this...
Stock
8 > FD
Well modified
FD > 8
Money
$$$$ > FD/8
I was actually going to mention the Japanese tuners as well and what car they use but they are worlds away from us in terms of resources and money. They could turn a geo metro into a race car if they wanted.
Stock
8 > FD
Well modified
FD > 8
Money
$$$$ > FD/8
I was actually going to mention the Japanese tuners as well and what car they use but they are worlds away from us in terms of resources and money. They could turn a geo metro into a race car if they wanted.
05-10-2012, 12:15 AM
I have a garage for the first time in my life, and it's flat and clean. As soon as I can sell our Mazda5, I'll be starting an engine rebuild on my Miata, but still room to work around that. I live in Stroudsburg PA right off I-80 over the PA/NJ line, so a bit of a drive. Though for smaller stuff I don't mind swinging by you after work, though it would usually be late evening. As long as you are looking to learn, I don't mind helping at no cost to you. I don't drink alcohol, so you can't even bribe me with beer
Just give me some lead time notice, doesn't have to be a weekend either, since I work from home several days a week.
Just give me some lead time notice, doesn't have to be a weekend either, since I work from home several days a week.
right now my friend alex (bought omars wheels) comes over at 8:00 after his work and he helps me do whatever i need done, though if i know zilch on the subject, alex probably knows slightly more, but it still takes us forever and we never know what we are doing.
If possible id like to do all the work myself, im just afraid of breaking something "abs sensor line" for example DID NOT sound cheap to replace.
Or if i disconnect something and it becomes almost impossible to put back together, thats my worst fear. Though i want to be hands on and learn, i learn doing it myself in my garage but seriously, 5 hours to just unhook both front shocks. And 10 hours to assemble the springs on the shocks and install.
if i cant bribe you with booze or money then food is my secret weapon.
i really appreciate it, thanks.
05-10-2012, 12:29 AM
this cracked me up.
+1 on going single. I heard if you want a reliable twin then go with the 99 turbo's and hope you get lucky and find a set for below 500 because the guy selling them doesnt know what he has. (i think this happened to goodfella?)
But take this with a grain of salt, as im a rx7club.com noob.
My power goals are 300-350rwhp with single. After doing all possible reliability upgrades of course. After that i wont touch the engine. Im thinking i go with the G-Stream wing with a disconnectable mount to the chassis. Feed front along with fenders front and rear. I want to fit the widest tire i can in the front and then match it in the rear so this allows me to get expensive tires and got a lot of wear out of them when i rotate them.
Im still waiting on a reply on rx7club on what the best springrate is for a coilover for tracks in the NE. I know a super super smooth track might do good with a very high springrate, but i dont know if the tracks in NJ and the NE are well maintained and smooth or slightly bumpy.
I can get feed coilovers from rx7boutique for around 1.1k+400 shipping with a 18k f/r spring rate. But i was also looking at the HKS performers with a 16k f/r for $950+400 shipping or maybe bilstein PSS9's due to the availability to source parts.
+1 on going single. I heard if you want a reliable twin then go with the 99 turbo's and hope you get lucky and find a set for below 500 because the guy selling them doesnt know what he has. (i think this happened to goodfella?)
But take this with a grain of salt, as im a rx7club.com noob.
My power goals are 300-350rwhp with single. After doing all possible reliability upgrades of course. After that i wont touch the engine. Im thinking i go with the G-Stream wing with a disconnectable mount to the chassis. Feed front along with fenders front and rear. I want to fit the widest tire i can in the front and then match it in the rear so this allows me to get expensive tires and got a lot of wear out of them when i rotate them.
Im still waiting on a reply on rx7club on what the best springrate is for a coilover for tracks in the NE. I know a super super smooth track might do good with a very high springrate, but i dont know if the tracks in NJ and the NE are well maintained and smooth or slightly bumpy.
I can get feed coilovers from rx7boutique for around 1.1k+400 shipping with a 18k f/r spring rate. But i was also looking at the HKS performers with a 16k f/r for $950+400 shipping or maybe bilstein PSS9's due to the availability to source parts.
05-10-2012, 12:32 AM
help a brother out https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=233009
was it regular paint? There has been quite a bit of discussion on whether or not to use high heat paint for metal on the plastic or will using a regular spray paint work and not cause issues with the heat.
05-10-2012, 03:52 AM
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hey! Any chance there is a thread on how you did your engine covers?
was it regular paint? There has been quite a bit of discussion on whether or not to use high heat paint for metal on the plastic or will using a regular spray paint work and not cause issues with the heat.
was it regular paint? There has been quite a bit of discussion on whether or not to use high heat paint for metal on the plastic or will using a regular spray paint work and not cause issues with the heat.
05-10-2012, 09:40 AM
just understand that the FD is RAW. RAW RAW RAW no frills
no ****** cup holders
just raw sports car, you and the road, no traction control, abs that barely works, nothing to save you from a mistake but your brain and quick reflexes, stiff chassis raw sports car
as for ur car quests, dont be silly, can those POS twin turbos, going nonsequential does NOT make them reliable, twins will take a **** on you no matter what, just junk them and go single turbo
and this is speaking from experience having only driven the car for 13k miles and already going on my 3rd set
how much are u trying to get this car for anyways?
no ****** cup holders
just raw sports car, you and the road, no traction control, abs that barely works, nothing to save you from a mistake but your brain and quick reflexes, stiff chassis raw sports car
as for ur car quests, dont be silly, can those POS twin turbos, going nonsequential does NOT make them reliable, twins will take a **** on you no matter what, just junk them and go single turbo
and this is speaking from experience having only driven the car for 13k miles and already going on my 3rd set
how much are u trying to get this car for anyways?
I am compression testing it next week and going from there ... I am trying to get it under 5 k .... its the same color as yours btw
05-10-2012, 11:15 AM
HOLY CRAP ^
I forgot about this....
Im down... went last year... had a awesome time
Just be warned...when we went..... no lap... no giftcard.... nothin..... lol..
The only plus is you park with your fellow mazdas... not with the general public... which to me was worth the money
I forgot about this....
Im down... went last year... had a awesome time
Just be warned...when we went..... no lap... no giftcard.... nothin..... lol..
The only plus is you park with your fellow mazdas... not with the general public... which to me was worth the money
05-10-2012, 12:27 PM
16k is really high man.
05-10-2012, 10:54 PM
^ thanks.
i had no idea what to go with, everyone runs different springrates and has different opinions.
Ill look around to what the US market has to offer.
i had no idea what to go with, everyone runs different springrates and has different opinions.
Ill look around to what the US market has to offer.
05-10-2012, 11:21 PM
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Well especially you guys that switched from rx8 to rx7 ... how do you feel about your decision looking from a performance, handling, and easy to drive aspects
Performance there is no comparison, common you know that. rx8 avg max out at 300-350 (boosted) rx7s with LIGHT modifcations make that all day on 1 rotor...... (exaggerating) ease to drive, also no comparison. rx8 is smooth calm and collective, rx7 is raw raw raw like dave said. the 8 could be sliding on its roof and id still feel like id have control. the 7 (well mine) is extremely light or atleast feels that way, im always scaared to push it because i feel like it watns to kick out.....
Its hard to word exactly what my priorities are, basically I want more power without sacrificing handling too much.
However, I do not want a car that would be impossible to control. After turboing my rx8 I know that power and control are inversely proportional.
Completely disagree, greddy turbo'd 8 back in 07 felt amazing, i did not feel like the power had any effect on the handle. still felt great. felt like what mazda should have produced stock.
I understand that the FD will be harder to drive, but how much harder is the question.
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Either way, I am compression testing the thing first.
Performance there is no comparison, common you know that. rx8 avg max out at 300-350 (boosted) rx7s with LIGHT modifcations make that all day on 1 rotor...... (exaggerating) ease to drive, also no comparison. rx8 is smooth calm and collective, rx7 is raw raw raw like dave said. the 8 could be sliding on its roof and id still feel like id have control. the 7 (well mine) is extremely light or atleast feels that way, im always scaared to push it because i feel like it watns to kick out.....
Its hard to word exactly what my priorities are, basically I want more power without sacrificing handling too much.
However, I do not want a car that would be impossible to control. After turboing my rx8 I know that power and control are inversely proportional.
Completely disagree, greddy turbo'd 8 back in 07 felt amazing, i did not feel like the power had any effect on the handle. still felt great. felt like what mazda should have produced stock.
I understand that the FD will be harder to drive, but how much harder is the question.
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Either way, I am compression testing the thing first.
I wonder what this is gonna cost. looks promising though.
http://www.tracmac.com.au/products1.html
http://www.tracmac.com.au/products1.html
if anyone is local to me i dont mind paying you guys to get the work done but not at $95 an hour. Ill buy you food/beer/just cash whatever (no ******** or sexy time) to help me do **** to my car.
unfortunately i charge $94 and hour, Bj's Zj's and sexytime.. arizona green tea is my choice
only thing that cant happen is.. lets say i come to you, we dont finish for some reason and then i dont have a car for a week.
That rules me out
so im pretty enraged right now and need to blow off some steam.
i brought my car to the shop. i told them to take the front springs and put them on the back, and take off the back oem and put the sprint springs on the rear. his rate is $95 an hour but it was alot for a kid so he put it to $75.
He looked it up online and it said it would take 5.2 hours of labor, during the install that started at 2:30pm, he started working on it, then the engine swap that was happening next to my car one of the guys lost some tranny bolts and spent 3 hours looking for them.
after about 15minutes he continues working on my car and tells another guy to keep looking for the bolts.
30 min pass by worth of working and then another guys pulls up and he walks over and starts diagnosing the shitty hondas problem, 45 minutes pass by and he comes back.
basically... it takes him 3 hours from 2:30 to 5:36 NOT including the 45 minutes and 15minutes he spent NOT working on my car. incase you cant do math its $225 for 3 hours.
when i went to pay he said it was $390 and i was like whaaat? you guys started at 2:30 not 12:00.. i watched you first start the car. He then said oh no well its a flat rate, im giving you a discount of $75 instead of $95, and that they were required to charge you a flat rate because if i had all rusted bolts and it took 9 hours to complete then they would still charge the flat rate, i said thats fine but it took you LESS time, 2.2 hours LESS they said it didnt matter.
when i brought my exhaust in to them, it took 45 min and he charged me a fraction of the 95 his usual rate. so i figured he would do the same here. The 5.2 hours was a estimate. NOPE now its a flat rate all of a sudden.
so i said hey how about you charge me for the actual 3 hours and charge me $95 an hour, then he said no its the flat rate of $390.
this is complete bull ****, Rotary-Rx8 was charged $200 for his spring install. it should have costed me $225.
i was taken advantage of because im just a kid. Im not taking my car there anymore. I wish i knew he would charge me a flat rate no matter how long it took, i would have went elsewhere, first time ive seen him with a ramrod up his *** and acting this bitchy.
i bring my car there, my mom brings hers, my brother brings his, my brother referrs his friends there and his girfriend goes to the same shop.
i know it may not seem like much, and unfortunately im going to use the statement all of you guys hate "i am a college student with little to no money" i spend 20hours a week in classes and atleast 20-35 working on projects for class, im majoring in industrial design. I know i shouldnt have gotten this car if i have no money but im making it work and doing all of the required maintenance, i dont eat breakfast or lunch to be able to save money.
whatever, its done. Im looking into other shops in the area, one that wont rip me off. Hopefully he gets a hole through his direzza in his evo, so he wastes that money he ripped off of me. I was talking to one of his workers and i asked if i could rent him out for less than what the shop charges and he said yeah, hes only making $8.00 an hour, so i will be stealing his work.
sorry for the volume of novels i wrote here.
ITs bullshit, its common, get use to it, its how it works at shops, ask dave. thats when u start doing your own work.
unfortunately i charge $94 and hour, Bj's Zj's and sexytime.. arizona green tea is my choice
only thing that cant happen is.. lets say i come to you, we dont finish for some reason and then i dont have a car for a week.
That rules me out
so im pretty enraged right now and need to blow off some steam.
i brought my car to the shop. i told them to take the front springs and put them on the back, and take off the back oem and put the sprint springs on the rear. his rate is $95 an hour but it was alot for a kid so he put it to $75.
He looked it up online and it said it would take 5.2 hours of labor, during the install that started at 2:30pm, he started working on it, then the engine swap that was happening next to my car one of the guys lost some tranny bolts and spent 3 hours looking for them.
after about 15minutes he continues working on my car and tells another guy to keep looking for the bolts.
30 min pass by worth of working and then another guys pulls up and he walks over and starts diagnosing the shitty hondas problem, 45 minutes pass by and he comes back.
basically... it takes him 3 hours from 2:30 to 5:36 NOT including the 45 minutes and 15minutes he spent NOT working on my car. incase you cant do math its $225 for 3 hours.
when i went to pay he said it was $390 and i was like whaaat? you guys started at 2:30 not 12:00.. i watched you first start the car. He then said oh no well its a flat rate, im giving you a discount of $75 instead of $95, and that they were required to charge you a flat rate because if i had all rusted bolts and it took 9 hours to complete then they would still charge the flat rate, i said thats fine but it took you LESS time, 2.2 hours LESS they said it didnt matter.
when i brought my exhaust in to them, it took 45 min and he charged me a fraction of the 95 his usual rate. so i figured he would do the same here. The 5.2 hours was a estimate. NOPE now its a flat rate all of a sudden.
so i said hey how about you charge me for the actual 3 hours and charge me $95 an hour, then he said no its the flat rate of $390.
this is complete bull ****, Rotary-Rx8 was charged $200 for his spring install. it should have costed me $225.
i was taken advantage of because im just a kid. Im not taking my car there anymore. I wish i knew he would charge me a flat rate no matter how long it took, i would have went elsewhere, first time ive seen him with a ramrod up his *** and acting this bitchy.
i bring my car there, my mom brings hers, my brother brings his, my brother referrs his friends there and his girfriend goes to the same shop.
i know it may not seem like much, and unfortunately im going to use the statement all of you guys hate "i am a college student with little to no money" i spend 20hours a week in classes and atleast 20-35 working on projects for class, im majoring in industrial design. I know i shouldnt have gotten this car if i have no money but im making it work and doing all of the required maintenance, i dont eat breakfast or lunch to be able to save money.
whatever, its done. Im looking into other shops in the area, one that wont rip me off. Hopefully he gets a hole through his direzza in his evo, so he wastes that money he ripped off of me. I was talking to one of his workers and i asked if i could rent him out for less than what the shop charges and he said yeah, hes only making $8.00 an hour, so i will be stealing his work.
sorry for the volume of novels i wrote here.
ITs bullshit, its common, get use to it, its how it works at shops, ask dave. thats when u start doing your own work.
help a brother out https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=233009
]Highly doubt that. gear wrenches? impact gun? flex heads? you NEVER have all the tools......trust me
My power goals are 300-350rwhp with single. After doing all possible reliability upgrades of course. After that i wont touch the engine. Im thinking i go with the G-Stream wing with a disconnectable mount to the chassis. Feed front along with fenders front and rear. I want to fit the widest tire i can in the front and then match it in the rear so this allows me to get expensive tires and got a lot of wear out of them when i rotate them.
Sounds like you didnt do your research to me....... youre kinda bitching about spending a lot of money on installs on the spring (which i agree they were a lot ) yet you want to spend pointless money on a single only trying to reach 350whp..... not cost efficient imo. ive never heard someone want really wide tires just so they can get really expensive tires
Im still waiting on a reply on rx7club on what the best springrate is for a coilover for tracks in the NE. I know a super super smooth track might do good with a very high springrate, but i dont know if the tracks in NJ and the NE are well maintained and smooth or slightly bumpy.
I can get feed coilovers from rx7boutique for around 1.1k+400 shipping with a 18k f/r spring rate. But i was also looking at the HKS performers with a 16k f/r for $950+400 shipping or maybe bilstein PSS9's due to the availability to source parts.
Sounds like you didnt do your research to me....... youre kinda bitching about spending a lot of money on installs on the spring (which i agree they were a lot ) yet you want to spend pointless money on a single only trying to reach 350whp..... not cost efficient imo. ive never heard someone want really wide tires just so they can get really expensive tires
Im still waiting on a reply on rx7club on what the best springrate is for a coilover for tracks in the NE. I know a super super smooth track might do good with a very high springrate, but i dont know if the tracks in NJ and the NE are well maintained and smooth or slightly bumpy.
I can get feed coilovers from rx7boutique for around 1.1k+400 shipping with a 18k f/r spring rate. But i was also looking at the HKS performers with a 16k f/r for $950+400 shipping or maybe bilstein PSS9's due to the availability to source parts.
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