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Old 09-22-2009, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gh8st
it is too much trouble.. haha i'm just gonna get my own too.
It's a pretty good investment, and not that expensive anyways. It's useful for applying polish, for buffing out scratches, waxing (not my cup of tea there), restoring carbon fiber (a must, if you have a CF piece), and saves a crapload of time and effort lol...

If it was a proper high speed rotary, then I'd highly suggest get a good quality (expensive) one. Rotaries are meant for thoroughly flattening the paint, and are good for big scratches. They need a lot more effort in use though (orbitals/dual actions are idiot proof....almost), so that's why I would definitely recommend better quality ones.
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Yea i guess i shouldn't be sarcastic anymore lol

Who wants to buy my OEM cf hood for 150 bucks? For that price you can get some sandpaper and clear coat and a buffer and have a new hood!!!

Lets see....Whats left?
Mount my MS bumper
Install my AEM intake
Powder-coat my wheels
Coil-overs? (Drift King said sways and springs werent worth it)
Fix My Fender

TURBO KIT?!?!!?



P.S. -- IM EVEN MORE PISSED THAT UPS LEFT MY PACKAGE SOMEWHERE AND IT WONT GET TO COBB UNTIL TOMORROW AND I PAID FOR NEXT DAY SHIPPING!!!! GOD DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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Originally Posted by Juansito
Yea i guess i shouldn't be sarcastic anymore lol

Who wants to buy my OEM cf hood for 150 bucks? For that price you can get some sandpaper and clear coat and a buffer and have a new hood!!!

Lets see....Whats left?
Mount my MS bumper
Install my AEM intake
Powder-coat my wheels
Coil-overs? (Drift King said sways and springs werent worth it)
Fix My Fender

TURBO KIT?!?!!?



P.S. -- IM EVEN MORE PISSED THAT UPS LEFT MY PACKAGE SOMEWHERE AND IT WONT GET TO COBB UNTIL TOMORROW AND I PAID FOR NEXT DAY SHIPPING!!!! GOD DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Are you going to track the car? Harshly as well? Springs + stock shocks should be more than enough for everyday use. Springs + aftermarket shocks might end up cheaper than a full coilover set (ignoring the cheap sets).

I'm going to go turbo in 3-4 years.. It's a huge cost investment. I might go with a stock greddy and upgrade later to jump ahead the timeline though. 270hp is plenty enough
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lol.. that's why you should send fedex. UPS are a bunch of **** UPS

coilovers are totally unnecessary.. springs + shocks is what you should get.

haha 270 seems like it's enough, but you'll be begging for more if you actually get that turbo
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Originally Posted by gh8st
lol.. that's why you should send fedex. UPS are a bunch of **** UPS

coilovers are totally unnecessary.. springs + shocks is what you should get.

haha 270 seems like it's enough, but you'll be begging for more if you actually get that turbo
270 to start, my good sir. That's what the stock greddy is rated for. I would plan to upgrade everything at once when I have the time and money to increase that to the 300+ range =p
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Originally Posted by Juansito
Yea i guess i shouldn't be sarcastic anymore lol

Who wants to buy my OEM cf hood for 150 bucks? For that price you can get some sandpaper and clear coat and a buffer and have a new hood!!!

Lets see....Whats left?
Mount my MS bumper
Install my AEM intake
Powder-coat my wheels
Coil-overs? (Drift King said sways and springs werent worth it)
Fix My Fender

TURBO KIT?!?!!?

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P.S. -- IM EVEN MORE PISSED THAT UPS LEFT MY PACKAGE SOMEWHERE AND IT WONT GET TO COBB UNTIL TOMORROW AND I PAID FOR NEXT DAY SHIPPING!!!! GOD DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Go for the turbo it would be a good investment... I would buy your hood but I'm so broke I have no food in my fridge..lol need to go food shopping after work but if you need any help mounting your bumper I'll give you a hand my fellow 5BR buddie LOL
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WOO just sold my hood =]
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If you do turbo, you have to really plan things out. Youl'l have to expect not being able to use the car for a significant period of time, not just for install, but also for tuning and testing.

You have to estimate your budget and your desired rwhp. The stock greddy kit isn't bad, as long as you don't mess with it. It's good for around 250-270 rwhp on average. Now, if you want more than that, you're looking at upgraded turbos and more expensive.

Base cost is the kit ($3400), general miscellaneous items (intercooler, additional cooling items, extra piping if needed), and time and labor at the shop. I'm simplifying things a bit, but I do think a good turbo installation is around $6-$12k.

Of course, if you can weld, install, and manufacture the bits you need, it'll get a lot cheaper =p

And congrats Ghost!
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thanks

pettit SC (just to put into perspective) will run you 8 grand for parts and install and tune, and give you 350rwhp.. something to think about =]
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I'd actually rate the Pettit a bit lower. Say just over 300hp. The 330who dynos you see are with a prototype pulley and there are a few other things that need to be upgraded to get there.

Your best best right now is to do a Greddy kit with a salvageable turbo that you will send to BNR to get upgraded. That has the airflow potential to get you to a theoretical 380 whp. However you can go more conservatively in boost, say 7-8 psi, and still get over 300hp without overworking the turbo and room for future advance.

Upgrade immediately.. so you only have to install and tune at once.
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Originally Posted by gh8st
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pettit SC (just to put into perspective) will run you 8 grand for parts and install and tune, and give you 350rwhp.. something to think about =]
Alzor's got it close below. I've actually not seen many Pettit running even 300whp. Most hit 270whp (the engine hp is 330 or so). Hymee SCs are around that area as well, if perhaps just a bit higher.

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I'd actually rate the Pettit a bit lower. Say just over 300hp. The 330who dynos you see are with a prototype pulley and there are a few other things that need to be upgraded to get there.

Your best best right now is to do a Greddy kit with a salvageable turbo that you will send to BNR to get upgraded. That has the airflow potential to get you to a theoretical 380 whp. However you can go more conservatively in boost, say 7-8 psi, and still get over 300hp without overworking the turbo and room for future advance.

Upgrade immediately.. so you only have to install and tune at once.

The theoretical 380whp isn't very easy to get. Yes, an upgraded turbo (MM, BNR, Esmeril) will give you the ability to get there, but it's a lot of tuning and a lot more upgrades.

300rwhp is pretty normal for most upgraded turbos.

With regards to SC vs TC, I would say look at the Australian forum. There's a pretty good thread there. It basically boils down to feel of engine (SC follows the NA curve) vs sheer power available (TC can reach your desired boost level by 2-3k rpms, while the SC is linear).
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Yeah that is why I said theoretical although that is a bad word for it. The GT3071R (MM Upgrade turbo) flows less then the BNR turbo at peak. MM has peaked over 400whp on his 3071r... so that should tell you something about the potential on the BNR.

After 300 whp, you should be doing clutch, ignition, fuel pump and injectors. Followed closely by the transmission.
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Originally Posted by JinDesu
270 to start, my good sir. That's what the stock greddy is rated for. I would plan to upgrade everything at once when I have the time and money to increase that to the 300+ range =p
270 is way slow =[. im at 308 right now and i feel eh. so where am i at now? buying new turbos/injectors/new fuel setup blah blah.

the addiction to turbo once you get it will never end. lol
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$8k to $12k for 350hp at max. not worth it.

FD for me
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Originally Posted by llzjayarzll
270 is way slow =[. im at 308 right now and i feel eh. so where am i at now? buying new turbos/injectors/new fuel setup blah blah.

the addiction to turbo once you get it will never end. lol
Lol.. maybe I'll just aim for 300 off the bat...

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$8k to $12k for 350hp at max. not worth it.

FD for me
lol, it is steep, but I would rather do that and have one car, as opposed to two.
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$12k.. sell my car for $10k = $22k.. down payment on a porsche cayman s
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$12k.. sell my car for $10k = $22k.. down payment on a porsche cayman s
ew... cayman...

It's more like looking at it vs an Evo X (sort of). First off, I enjoy the 4 seats. Second, at 300rwhp, that's damn close to the Evo already (if not more, the Evo is 300hp, dunno if that's wheel hp). I got this car for 21k, +12k, that's basically an Evo X (base model). Now, both cars are relatively comfortable sports cars (I believe the X is a massive upgrade in comfort over the 8 and 9), both sport turbos, look great, and are great for driving.

I like my comfort in this car. I know how incredibly harsh the older Evo's and STIs are. I would never get them because my girlfriend wouldn't ride in them. So adding power to this car is the best compromise of all worlds.
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I dont think ill ever go turbo.....Just 2 much money.....
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Originally Posted by Juansito
I dont think ill ever go turbo.....Just 2 much money.....
You never know =p

I planned out all the NA parts I would ever do and it ends up sometime in 2011. Give another year, I'd probably have enough spare play money to go turbo. So it's definitely in the future for me.
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Originally Posted by gh8st
lol.. that's why you should send fedex. UPS are a bunch of **** UPS

coilovers are totally unnecessary.. springs + shocks is what you should get.

haha 270 seems like it's enough, but you'll be begging for more if you actually get that turbo
you are right, even for me now, i want it more...

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270 to start, my good sir. That's what the stock greddy is rated for. I would plan to upgrade everything at once when I have the time and money to increase that to the 300+ range =p
you have to have a good tune and a good EMS

Originally Posted by alz0rz
I'd actually rate the Pettit a bit lower. Say just over 300hp. The 330who dynos you see are with a prototype pulley and there are a few other things that need to be upgraded to get there.

Your best best right now is to do a Greddy kit with a salvageable turbo that you will send to BNR to get upgraded. That has the airflow potential to get you to a theoretical 380 whp. However you can go more conservatively in boost, say 7-8 psi, and still get over 300hp without overworking the turbo and room for future advance.

Upgrade immediately.. so you only have to install and tune at once.
yeah, you should

Originally Posted by JinDesu
Alzor's got it close below. I've actually not seen many Pettit running even 300whp. Most hit 270whp (the engine hp is 330 or so). Hymee SCs are around that area as well, if perhaps just a bit higher.




The theoretical 380whp isn't very easy to get. Yes, an upgraded turbo (MM, BNR, Esmeril) will give you the ability to get there, but it's a lot of tuning and a lot more upgrades.

300rwhp is pretty normal for most upgraded turbos.

With regards to SC vs TC, I would say look at the Australian forum. There's a pretty good thread there. It basically boils down to feel of engine (SC follows the NA curve) vs sheer power available (TC can reach your desired boost level by 2-3k rpms, while the SC is linear).
380whp, you have to think about something else now to support it....and it's a hassle

Originally Posted by alz0rz
Yeah that is why I said theoretical although that is a bad word for it. The GT3071R (MM Upgrade turbo) flows less then the BNR turbo at peak. MM has peaked over 400whp on his 3071r... so that should tell you something about the potential on the BNR.

After 300 whp, you should be doing clutch, ignition, fuel pump and injectors. Followed closely by the transmission.
if you guys want to turbo, build it up little by little and talk to people who have turbo in the car.
i started with greddy turbo, but before installing it, i make sure all sides (cooling system, injectors, fuel pump, ems, ) supporting the turbo, so in teh end, when i need to upgrade teh turbo system which i did, i just put the turbo syste and tune them. that's all.
if you guys go it carefully, slowly, you will not feel the deep pocket. just remember, don't abuse it when you go turbo.
trust me, you need to pay attention on little thing, adn gauges are important,s o you guys can see something strange happening toward the engine. tunning is the most important.
ask me a question if any of you decide to go for turbo, i can try to help to guide you guys
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Originally Posted by JinDesu
ew... cayman...

It's more like looking at it vs an Evo X (sort of). First off, I enjoy the 4 seats. Second, at 300rwhp, that's damn close to the Evo already (if not more, the Evo is 300hp, dunno if that's wheel hp). I got this car for 21k, +12k, that's basically an Evo X (base model). Now, both cars are relatively comfortable sports cars (I believe the X is a massive upgrade in comfort over the 8 and 9), both sport turbos, look great, and are great for driving.

I like my comfort in this car. I know how incredibly harsh the older Evo's and STIs are. I would never get them because my girlfriend wouldn't ride in them. So adding power to this car is the best compromise of all worlds.
hater..

btw, evo X gets +80whp just from a tune.. so it's not even in the same league. evo x = cheap hp.. rx8 = $$$$$

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