rotorfest 2007
07-08-2007, 06:45 PM
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07-08-2007, 08:19 PM
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I want to apologize to everyone for maybe killing their rotorfest but i felt like i had to do something.
John posted about how their is no advertising for ROTORFEST which is true, and the advertising that is keeping rotorfest alive is all the members that bump it up with caravans leaving from NY, NJ, CT, DE, PA even CANADA! That is all advertising. So to help members out i created a ROTORFEST 2007 webpage hosted by my website ( http://nyrotary.com/Pages/Rotorfest2007.htm ) I did this to help bring more people to this event. WIth the help of Chrism/KelRX8 we had over 70+ cars at EXIT 48 off I-80 today. That in itself was ROTORFEST, because we were all in a parking lot, talking, looking at cars. The only difference was that it was FREE.
Now the caravan to ROTORFEST is the ONLY reason i ever go to RF to be quite honest, i like recording the actions (like me, kel, yellow FD, SIlver RX8, GSPec , Kenny RX8 and a few other guys had hauling ***). Once iget to the event its just walking around looking at cars, talking to people (which we can do for free), but $5 doesnt seem bad to enter a lot and chill, and later on watch some drag racing.
I showed VOSKO the site and even posted it up on the ROtorfest thread that jay made (TurboVR6). I IMed vosko he saw it and didnt say anything was wrong with the address or the PRICE i listed. I said its still $5, he said yeah.
Today we drive to RF, i see VOSKO handling the booth, im like okay whatevers. Give him $10 and tell him for me and my wifey. He says no dude the track just SUDDENLY Raised the price. Im like to what. He said $20 for your car and you and $10 for your passenger. I said WTF are you serious dude. I told him i only had $13 and $10 was the only thing i was going to give him cuz it was $5 last year per person. He told me theirs nothing he can do its the track. At this point i found it weird and was getting suspisous. What he did next made me think something is up, he LET ME GET IN FOR $10 (for me and my girl, thats $5 each, he waived me in). I parked and ran back to my brothers car (Black EVO VIII) and he gave them $20 for him and his wifey and when i ran up to see how much he paid, vosko also waived him in.
Now if the TRACK reallly got strict with their pricing and said $20 for car and $10 per person, and we have 2 cars that should of paid $60 to get in just paid $30.
Now i coulda been a dick and said wow cuz me and vosko are cool i got in for half off, but something was just ******* irritating me about this ****. So when i asked the Assistant Track Manager how much do they charger per person, she said blatantly out $5 per person, no matter how many cars. I said thats your cut, she said yes, "Whatever they do at the gate is all on them". I said WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enter ANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was was walking away back to my corner when i just got heated and got NYRA heads, NJRA, and CTRA and a few other key players in making this event what it is ((Chrism and KEl from Envy MOtorsports)
We approached VOSKO at the gate, where i knew vosko knew something was up. I tried to pullhim to a corner to talk to him and he made me wait for a few minutes while he tried to keep himself busy. When i confronted him, i let him tell me again in FRONT OF EVERYONE, that the track issued the price!
This way i can prove it wasnt just me making **** up!
Then he walks over to the assistant (daughter ) manager of the track and has a convo with her. So i decide to walk over and have a 3 way convo with them.
In front of everyone she says the track only chargers $5 per person. Then vosko switched up mad quick and said but "Oh they are all entered in the car show". I said wtf, u just decided to put everyone in a car show no even letting us tell you if we wanted to be in one. LIke everyone said the durango and honda really had a chance in a rotary car show with pistons huh, that was a dumb move. You shoulda said the truth, you want to cover some costs and needed the money.
I then say its okay to charger $10 per person, thats not an outrageous price. If you gotta give the racetrack half of it for costs/rental etc, and the $5 to cover your trophies (that prolly cost a few bucks anywho cuz there generic and puny). Then thats understandbale but tell us when you make your Rotorfest thread (which is hard to find and the only threads you do find is members thread bumping the event, doing all the leg work for the event). Man up to it and say you need to cover costs for holding the event, $20 per car (with 2 occupants) not make the **** up once we traveled over 100 miles paid a **** load of money on tollz, dont pull that blanket over our eyes, were not kids.
I talked to ppl that told me they were only charged $10 per person since they werent in a rotary, but they were in a rotary car show where rotarys had to pay $20 per car, and $10 per person wtf!
You went around this the whole bad way. I do apologize for screaming in your face and being 1 second away from KNOCKING you out, but when you try to feed me bullshit to my face like im some bitch, **** THAT. You owe it to everyone who attended a fucknig apology cuz what you did was ******* grimmey.
I even offered to help vosko put some entertainment at the event, get some vendors, make it more fun that jujst sitting watching american muslce cars race all day and getting 1 hour at 5pm when the ***** closing to watch OUR people go! I even offered to bring MAZDASPEED in on this event, he told me , so what he knows ppl in mazdaspeed too, i just backed off and told him i wanted to help. I even contacted SPEEDSOURCE with the Mazda RX-8's in the Rolex GT Series (http://nyrotary.com/Pages/Rolex_GT_Series.htm ), since we have become good freinds over the course of the year. SPeedsource said that they would of came if they didnnt have to be so far away in Illionois. Now imagine how fun that would be having a real mazda race team at the track talking to all the members about 2OB rotary engines, thats something i would pay $20 for, not what we had today!!!
So i tried to help out and i got the cold shoulder, so **** that, ill use it to make my own event!
I offered my help and what did you tell me, why? I said what do you mean why? You said i like it nice and simple. Now i see why. Since you banked $30 per car on the average car making $20 profit per person and not having any other real expenses than the trophies (since the $10 went to paying the track per 2 ppl, etc)
Then like rob and mindy said you can bank thousands of dollars.
We could of had ROTORFEST in bear mountain (where NYRA holds one of our meets) paying NYstate $6 to park with the oppertunities of nice clean bathroooms, family oriented environment with LAKES, Pools, toys, and ample back roads to drive on for ******* $6 bucks. Instead we pay $30 to park in a field and sit and wait for the JUDGES (if any) to issue there judment on cars that they dunno who the **** they belong to (since they dont have any tickets/fliers filled out).
Yeah i got in your face twice cuz your trying to pull a BITCH MOVE, and i feel like i OWE to everyone that came with us Over 70 cars the right to an explanation when they are asking me , "I thought it was only $5 like last year if you are a spectator".
Now you may feel all big and bad that you got me thrown out, which you didnt really do cuz iwas on my way out any way, but to have a security guard come and pick me up to kick me out was the ICING on my cake. Im such a threat that you even called teh POLICE on me. I saw the cop drive in and point to me as i was drivng off, he even followed me thru the crowds and passed me to see if i do anything stupid on my way out. He talked to your security guard that you had come to escort me out, i even told the dude to have a nice day. I told him what you did and he said that its messed up but that he has to do what the track todl him, so i agreed and went my way.
And the SECURITY GUARD saw everyone around me packing their **** to leave, and he told them "You guys dont have to leave". My team said, well hes leaving and we are with him, so how you like that now! You thought i didnt bring 60 cars to the event think again son!
Your event wasnt even packed as it was last year, ppl are getting tired of sitting in a field in the middle of NJ where they can do that in their own hoods for free!
Then i get a call from CHRISM that you got MOON from Pettit Racing kicked out cuz he was agreeing with what i was saying, wtf is up with you, you throw out a guy that drove from FL to NJ for this event, are you insane? Guess you must be.
The only thing i regret about RF , was not laying you out where you stood cuz you deserved it. You should of been a man and spoke the truth, you needed a few dollars to cover your costs, but dont get stupid and price gouge us at the door, since you know we cant do anything but enter.
So i hope there isnt a RF 2008, cuz i wont be there and i guarentee you 2/3s of the cars we all roll with wont be there.
Well see waht 2008 has in store for us.
Mad love to all my real rotary people! Money is a ************ makes ppl flip on their own people.
Jason NYCizzle
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This is what went down today!
Jason NYC
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I want to apologize to everyone for maybe killing their rotorfest but i felt like i had to do something.
John posted about how their is no advertising for ROTORFEST which is true, and the advertising that is keeping rotorfest alive is all the members that bump it up with caravans leaving from NY, NJ, CT, DE, PA even CANADA! That is all advertising. So to help members out i created a ROTORFEST 2007 webpage hosted by my website ( http://nyrotary.com/Pages/Rotorfest2007.htm ) I did this to help bring more people to this event. WIth the help of Chrism/KelRX8 we had over 70+ cars at EXIT 48 off I-80 today. That in itself was ROTORFEST, because we were all in a parking lot, talking, looking at cars. The only difference was that it was FREE.
Now the caravan to ROTORFEST is the ONLY reason i ever go to RF to be quite honest, i like recording the actions (like me, kel, yellow FD, SIlver RX8, GSPec , Kenny RX8 and a few other guys had hauling ***). Once iget to the event its just walking around looking at cars, talking to people (which we can do for free), but $5 doesnt seem bad to enter a lot and chill, and later on watch some drag racing.
I showed VOSKO the site and even posted it up on the ROtorfest thread that jay made (TurboVR6). I IMed vosko he saw it and didnt say anything was wrong with the address or the PRICE i listed. I said its still $5, he said yeah.
Today we drive to RF, i see VOSKO handling the booth, im like okay whatevers. Give him $10 and tell him for me and my wifey. He says no dude the track just SUDDENLY Raised the price. Im like to what. He said $20 for your car and you and $10 for your passenger. I said WTF are you serious dude. I told him i only had $13 and $10 was the only thing i was going to give him cuz it was $5 last year per person. He told me theirs nothing he can do its the track. At this point i found it weird and was getting suspisous. What he did next made me think something is up, he LET ME GET IN FOR $10 (for me and my girl, thats $5 each, he waived me in). I parked and ran back to my brothers car (Black EVO VIII) and he gave them $20 for him and his wifey and when i ran up to see how much he paid, vosko also waived him in.
Now if the TRACK reallly got strict with their pricing and said $20 for car and $10 per person, and we have 2 cars that should of paid $60 to get in just paid $30.
Now i coulda been a dick and said wow cuz me and vosko are cool i got in for half off, but something was just ******* irritating me about this ****. So when i asked the Assistant Track Manager how much do they charger per person, she said blatantly out $5 per person, no matter how many cars. I said thats your cut, she said yes, "Whatever they do at the gate is all on them". I said WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enter ANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was was walking away back to my corner when i just got heated and got NYRA heads, NJRA, and CTRA and a few other key players in making this event what it is ((Chrism and KEl from Envy MOtorsports)
We approached VOSKO at the gate, where i knew vosko knew something was up. I tried to pullhim to a corner to talk to him and he made me wait for a few minutes while he tried to keep himself busy. When i confronted him, i let him tell me again in FRONT OF EVERYONE, that the track issued the price!
This way i can prove it wasnt just me making **** up!
Then he walks over to the assistant (daughter ) manager of the track and has a convo with her. So i decide to walk over and have a 3 way convo with them.
In front of everyone she says the track only chargers $5 per person. Then vosko switched up mad quick and said but "Oh they are all entered in the car show". I said wtf, u just decided to put everyone in a car show no even letting us tell you if we wanted to be in one. LIke everyone said the durango and honda really had a chance in a rotary car show with pistons huh, that was a dumb move. You shoulda said the truth, you want to cover some costs and needed the money.
I then say its okay to charger $10 per person, thats not an outrageous price. If you gotta give the racetrack half of it for costs/rental etc, and the $5 to cover your trophies (that prolly cost a few bucks anywho cuz there generic and puny). Then thats understandbale but tell us when you make your Rotorfest thread (which is hard to find and the only threads you do find is members thread bumping the event, doing all the leg work for the event). Man up to it and say you need to cover costs for holding the event, $20 per car (with 2 occupants) not make the **** up once we traveled over 100 miles paid a **** load of money on tollz, dont pull that blanket over our eyes, were not kids.
I talked to ppl that told me they were only charged $10 per person since they werent in a rotary, but they were in a rotary car show where rotarys had to pay $20 per car, and $10 per person wtf!
You went around this the whole bad way. I do apologize for screaming in your face and being 1 second away from KNOCKING you out, but when you try to feed me bullshit to my face like im some bitch, **** THAT. You owe it to everyone who attended a fucknig apology cuz what you did was ******* grimmey.
I even offered to help vosko put some entertainment at the event, get some vendors, make it more fun that jujst sitting watching american muslce cars race all day and getting 1 hour at 5pm when the ***** closing to watch OUR people go! I even offered to bring MAZDASPEED in on this event, he told me , so what he knows ppl in mazdaspeed too, i just backed off and told him i wanted to help. I even contacted SPEEDSOURCE with the Mazda RX-8's in the Rolex GT Series (http://nyrotary.com/Pages/Rolex_GT_Series.htm ), since we have become good freinds over the course of the year. SPeedsource said that they would of came if they didnnt have to be so far away in Illionois. Now imagine how fun that would be having a real mazda race team at the track talking to all the members about 2OB rotary engines, thats something i would pay $20 for, not what we had today!!!
So i tried to help out and i got the cold shoulder, so **** that, ill use it to make my own event!
I offered my help and what did you tell me, why? I said what do you mean why? You said i like it nice and simple. Now i see why. Since you banked $30 per car on the average car making $20 profit per person and not having any other real expenses than the trophies (since the $10 went to paying the track per 2 ppl, etc)
Then like rob and mindy said you can bank thousands of dollars.
We could of had ROTORFEST in bear mountain (where NYRA holds one of our meets) paying NYstate $6 to park with the oppertunities of nice clean bathroooms, family oriented environment with LAKES, Pools, toys, and ample back roads to drive on for ******* $6 bucks. Instead we pay $30 to park in a field and sit and wait for the JUDGES (if any) to issue there judment on cars that they dunno who the **** they belong to (since they dont have any tickets/fliers filled out).
Yeah i got in your face twice cuz your trying to pull a BITCH MOVE, and i feel like i OWE to everyone that came with us Over 70 cars the right to an explanation when they are asking me , "I thought it was only $5 like last year if you are a spectator".
Now you may feel all big and bad that you got me thrown out, which you didnt really do cuz iwas on my way out any way, but to have a security guard come and pick me up to kick me out was the ICING on my cake. Im such a threat that you even called teh POLICE on me. I saw the cop drive in and point to me as i was drivng off, he even followed me thru the crowds and passed me to see if i do anything stupid on my way out. He talked to your security guard that you had come to escort me out, i even told the dude to have a nice day. I told him what you did and he said that its messed up but that he has to do what the track todl him, so i agreed and went my way.
And the SECURITY GUARD saw everyone around me packing their **** to leave, and he told them "You guys dont have to leave". My team said, well hes leaving and we are with him, so how you like that now! You thought i didnt bring 60 cars to the event think again son!
Your event wasnt even packed as it was last year, ppl are getting tired of sitting in a field in the middle of NJ where they can do that in their own hoods for free!
Then i get a call from CHRISM that you got MOON from Pettit Racing kicked out cuz he was agreeing with what i was saying, wtf is up with you, you throw out a guy that drove from FL to NJ for this event, are you insane? Guess you must be.
The only thing i regret about RF , was not laying you out where you stood cuz you deserved it. You should of been a man and spoke the truth, you needed a few dollars to cover your costs, but dont get stupid and price gouge us at the door, since you know we cant do anything but enter.
So i hope there isnt a RF 2008, cuz i wont be there and i guarentee you 2/3s of the cars we all roll with wont be there.
Well see waht 2008 has in store for us.
Mad love to all my real rotary people! Money is a ************ makes ppl flip on their own people.
Jason NYCizzle
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This is what went down today!
Jason NYC
07-08-2007, 09:13 PM
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Yeh, it was a real bitch. I drove all the way from Florida for that. Dude that wasnt cool. I now exactly what you and your car look like, I segest you get rid of it because your on everyones hot list. Dont think of even trying to purchase from Pettit because im making sure your hot listed. As for rotor fest 2008, please come and bring your car, I garantee you wont have any parts left when you tow the body home on a flatbed. Im the guy from who talked to you and you bold faced lied to. Also everyone probly saw the guy in the wheel chair. You now that track wasnt excesable to handicaped. I myself spent 2 years in a chair and you have no idea what kind of stresses you go through having to have someone push you around because you cant push yourself. Im going through the motions with the state against the track for none accessiblity for the handicapped. They will go after the track and you for holding that event there and them allowing it. This is a friends computer and S/N, my name is Moon so dont respond to this screen name.
07-08-2007, 09:23 PM
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Yeh, it was a real bitch. I drove all the way from Florida for that. Dude that wasnt cool. I now exactly what you and your car look like, I segest you get rid of it because your on everyones hot list. Dont think of even trying to purchase from Pettit because im making sure your hot listed. As for rotor fest 2008, please come and bring your car, I garantee you wont have any parts left when you tow the body home on a flatbed. Im the guy from who talked to you and you bold faced lied to. Also everyone probly saw the guy in the wheel chair. You now that track wasnt excesable to handicaped. I myself spent 2 years in a chair and you have no idea what kind of stresses you go through having to have someone push you around because you cant push yourself. Im going through the motions with the state against the track for none accessiblity for the handicapped. They will go after the track and you for holding that event there and them allowing it. This is a friends computer and S/N, my name is Moon so dont respond to this screen name.
you drove from FL, this dude is a retard to kick you out, he should show some ******* respect. I offered to help and dude gave me the cold shoulder. He made up these prices on the fly to make a cut, cuz he knew we drove all that way so in a sense we had to go in, cuz wtf are we in the middle of the boonies for.
Sorry to hear you guys had issues with this clown, when you come to my event you will get a warm welcome and some adobo burgers hollah!
Ima be in FL in August 19 (orlando) i might come down and give you a hug from all of us up here, we are not all ******** lol
Jason NYC
07-08-2007, 09:31 PM
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i agree 1000%......i dont think any rotarians should blacklist rotorfest just yet.....let there be new management from long standing respected members of the community and we will see how the people feel about a rotorfest that is all about rotards!
07-08-2007, 09:33 PM
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07-08-2007, 09:34 PM
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he deserves it. i'm heated about this... especially kicking moon and the other 8 guy out. wtf is that? you rip people off then kick them out for calling you on it? vosko needs to man up...
guess i can't kick him in the *****. he hasn't grown any yet.
guess i can't kick him in the *****. he hasn't grown any yet.
07-08-2007, 09:37 PM
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hottest ticket in town!
and its only $30.
It was a pleasure to roll with all the 7s and 8s.
Chrism, do you mind if I add pics and vids to your thread in the multimedia? I dont have much and don't feel like starting a new thread.
It was a pleasure to roll with all the 7s and 8s.
Chrism, do you mind if I add pics and vids to your thread in the multimedia? I dont have much and don't feel like starting a new thread.
07-08-2007, 09:54 PM
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From RX7club, thought id share, Vosko tries to prove me wrong but proves he doesnt know or care about the rotary community
Vosko you trying to make me look like a fool, when your just making yourself look more like a ******* *******. YOu hold an event and dont post the price for admission on 3 ******* forums wtf is wrong with you.
I showed you the site, if you were a good organizer you woulda said oh **** jason the track said its $10 per person so plese change it. But based on your agrument today you said the track JUST SUDDENLY changed the price. Then that means you AGREE It was $5 till today when it was $10
So my man, dont dig yourself a ******* bigger hole that i gotta throw you in.
$5 was the price, you saw the site, you commended me on getting it up and ****, you never disagreed with the price. I even asked you if the price was the same to which you replied yes.
So doesnt make a difference that i posted it (after you review it and agreed) since the TRACK decided to charge $10 per person and $10 for my transformer RX-7 (which counts as one person).
So therefore it was $5, until to day when it was $10 per person and $10 per transformer rotary.
So keep trying to get out of this one.
EDIT: Also read what your write, i have on the wesbite $5 per PERSON not truckload of ppl dick head!
Jason NYC
so i was looking. i never posted the prices for rotorfest? if i did someone show me where please
my favorite buddy in the world put $5 per person on the website he made. there was never any mention of any other prices. unless i'm blind i searched all 3 forums. so basically all of this is over $5. since the price went from $5 person to $10. nobody ever asked me how much it was to enter the car show or any other prices. i guess i'm slightly to blame there
did everyone think it was $5 to do everything ?? also $5 per car/truckload of people. it is true you cannot park at a drag strip for less than $10(not in nj). this is pretty ridiculous. i'm done reading this thread
my favorite buddy in the world put $5 per person on the website he made. there was never any mention of any other prices. unless i'm blind i searched all 3 forums. so basically all of this is over $5. since the price went from $5 person to $10. nobody ever asked me how much it was to enter the car show or any other prices. i guess i'm slightly to blame there
did everyone think it was $5 to do everything ?? also $5 per car/truckload of people. it is true you cannot park at a drag strip for less than $10(not in nj). this is pretty ridiculous. i'm done reading this thread
I showed you the site, if you were a good organizer you woulda said oh **** jason the track said its $10 per person so plese change it. But based on your agrument today you said the track JUST SUDDENLY changed the price. Then that means you AGREE It was $5 till today when it was $10
So my man, dont dig yourself a ******* bigger hole that i gotta throw you in.
$5 was the price, you saw the site, you commended me on getting it up and ****, you never disagreed with the price. I even asked you if the price was the same to which you replied yes.
So doesnt make a difference that i posted it (after you review it and agreed) since the TRACK decided to charge $10 per person and $10 for my transformer RX-7 (which counts as one person).
So therefore it was $5, until to day when it was $10 per person and $10 per transformer rotary.
So keep trying to get out of this one.
EDIT: Also read what your write, i have on the wesbite $5 per PERSON not truckload of ppl dick head!
Jason NYC
07-08-2007, 09:55 PM
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07-08-2007, 10:15 PM
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Its the people that make our events fun, not the cars. I'm sure our northeast gang will recover shortly and have atleast 3 more great meets before the winter comes. Sorry i couldn't make it, but now i'm kinda glad.
07-08-2007, 10:17 PM
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my club holds meets once a month from APril to October, our meet have 40-70 cars, thats like a mini rotorfest lol
Your more than welcome to come, we also have NJRA and CTRA lol
Jason NYC
Your more than welcome to come, we also have NJRA and CTRA lol
Jason NYC
07-08-2007, 10:26 PM
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Despite the shady dealings going on....and this is a concensus with our group....WE ARE Rotorfest, and WE all love the comraderie that comes with being in this club, and this can include the 7 club as well. Nothing beats hanging out with a great bunch of people for some good times and good laughs. (and getting some lovely sunburn) lol
Since WE are rotorfest, there WILL be a change for next year......thinking maybe combine a caravan/track day/show/meet/?
BTW, loved caravaning up to the meet. Two Ways ROCK!!!
Since WE are rotorfest, there WILL be a change for next year......thinking maybe combine a caravan/track day/show/meet/?
BTW, loved caravaning up to the meet. Two Ways ROCK!!!