Diesel and premixing
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Diesel and premixing
I haven't found another thread on this after a quick Google and search on this forum so i'll ask it now. The point if premixing is to add a lubricating oil to the combustion chamber which burns cleanly.
Its about £5 for 500ml of Carlube 2 stroke oil, I could get 4 liters of Diesel for the same price. And Diesel is designed to burn in a combustion engine and not carb it up. And its a pretty decent lubricant!
It even has added detergents which might aid in keeping the engine cleaner.
Has anyone tried premixing with Diesel?
Its about £5 for 500ml of Carlube 2 stroke oil, I could get 4 liters of Diesel for the same price. And Diesel is designed to burn in a combustion engine and not carb it up. And its a pretty decent lubricant!
It even has added detergents which might aid in keeping the engine cleaner.
Has anyone tried premixing with Diesel?
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No but there is a wealth of experience premixing with a JASO FC or FD rated 2-cycle oil into your gas tank.
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Diesel is also a solvent and will thin and remove the oil injected by the oil injection system. That's if you can get it to condense out on the chamber walls at all, like 2-stroke oil. There's a reason we don't lubricate this engine with gasoline
Plus I don't think modern diesel fuel is particularly good as a lubricant, no better than gasoline I imagine. Since emissions laws became a thing, diesel has been further and further refined, reducing the amount of things that give it lubricity. And even then, lubricating fuel pumps and lubricating rotary seals are completely different applications.
Stick with good 2-stroke, don't try to save money on things that make your car not die. Trying to do so has expensive consequences.
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Plus I don't think modern diesel fuel is particularly good as a lubricant, no better than gasoline I imagine. Since emissions laws became a thing, diesel has been further and further refined, reducing the amount of things that give it lubricity. And even then, lubricating fuel pumps and lubricating rotary seals are completely different applications.
Stick with good 2-stroke, don't try to save money on things that make your car not die. Trying to do so has expensive consequences.
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^What Loki said.
The only thing fuel lubricates is the fuel system, not seals.
I also haven't heard anyone with a 2-stroke engine use this hack.
The only thing fuel lubricates is the fuel system, not seals.
I also haven't heard anyone with a 2-stroke engine use this hack.
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Okay, so probably a bad idea to try it then. Thanks for the info, it was just an idea. I'll stick with my carlube 2-stroke oil for premix.
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I actually work in a pilot plant where we make a precursor to the diesel that comes out of the pump.
Diesel is pretty slippery and could make a good lubricant, but... It was never designed to be one. That's the issue that I have: there was no intent on making something that would lubricate a combustion chamber. So, while it might work okay, it's not likely that it will be a good substitute for something that was designed to lubricate and burn cleanly.
Loki's point is also important:
Trying to pinch pennies on something that keeps your engine from eating itself is a losing scenario. You're better off skipping the McDonald's drive through (or Starbucks counter, or hookers and blow, or whatever) once a week instead.
Diesel is pretty slippery and could make a good lubricant, but... It was never designed to be one. That's the issue that I have: there was no intent on making something that would lubricate a combustion chamber. So, while it might work okay, it's not likely that it will be a good substitute for something that was designed to lubricate and burn cleanly.
Loki's point is also important:
Trying to pinch pennies on something that keeps your engine from eating itself is a losing scenario. You're better off skipping the McDonald's drive through (or Starbucks counter, or hookers and blow, or whatever) once a week instead.
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