First track build!
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First track build!
I'm just going to try to keep it short. I have an 07 6 Speed rebuilt engine. It's Street and exhaust ported. Looking for an aggressive DD that loves to be taken to the track.
Here's my goodies list
I think that's all of it. The engine is not yet in bet it should be within the next mouth or so. Once it is in, ill be getting Mazdaedit sortly after and try taking advantage of a few thing. Is there any other things to help with reliability/performance while keeping the car naturally asperated.
I'm not doing any suspension type thing for now seeing that the rx8 is arguably one of the best handling factory cars out.
P.S. the only parts on my car prior to the swap was
Thanks, Plus
Here's my goodies list
- TurboXs catback exhaust
- TurboXs garage line headders (ceramic coated and wrapped)
- EGR delete (welcome to southcarolina)
- Bennettbuilt ignition system
- NGK spark plugs
- BHR lightweight pulleys
- Spec stage 2 clutch (overkill but I hear some boost net build)
- Spec flywheel and counterwights
- Re-medy water pump (Track purposes)
- Silicone hoses
- Misimoto thermostat
- Aluminium radiator
- Sohn adapter kit "will I still need to premix because 1st gens only have one injector"
- A/C delete (I don't use it so lose it)
- Vfad delete (blocking air)
- Throttle body coolant blocked off (heats cool air)
- LBR Aero plate
- LBR Underpinning
I think that's all of it. The engine is not yet in bet it should be within the next mouth or so. Once it is in, ill be getting Mazdaedit sortly after and try taking advantage of a few thing. Is there any other things to help with reliability/performance while keeping the car naturally asperated.
I'm not doing any suspension type thing for now seeing that the rx8 is arguably one of the best handling factory cars out.
P.S. the only parts on my car prior to the swap was
- TurboXs catback exhaust
- K&N intake
- Silicone hoses
- Aluminium radiator
Thanks, Plus
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Smoking turbo yay
EGR? We only have internal EGR from the side exhaust port design. You are probably thinking about the secondary air pump, which you can get rid of if you don't have a cat.
Also, BHR has come out with some new designs for their coils, which are much more easy to install. Maybe you should have a lookse.
Also, BHR has come out with some new designs for their coils, which are much more easy to install. Maybe you should have a lookse.
Last edited by UnknownJinX; 04-07-2019 at 02:07 PM.
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Yes your completely right. Just used to calling it an egr. I just can't justify spending twice as much for BHR coils over bennettbuilt. I know BHR has the best reputation but the cost just isn't their.
Thanks for responding!
Thanks for responding!
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I'm just going to try to keep it short. I have an 07 6 Speed rebuilt engine. It's Street and exhaust ported. Looking for an aggressive DD that loves to be taken to the track.
Here's my goodies list
I think that's all of it. The engine is not yet in bet it should be within the next mouth or so. Once it is in, ill be getting Mazdaedit sortly after and try taking advantage of a few thing. Is there any other things to help with reliability/performance while keeping the car naturally asperated.
I'm not doing any suspension type thing for now seeing that the rx8 is arguably one of the best handling factory cars out. - You need to do suspension. The 8 is one of the best handling cars under $100K, but it still only pulls 0.8G on factory rubber, and holds about 1.2G on better rubber. My car holds up to 1.8G, which means my grip would easily overcome your power on the track.
P.S. the only parts on my car prior to the swap was
Thanks, Plus
Here's my goodies list
- TurboXs catback exhaust - OK
- TurboXs garage line headders (ceramic coated and wrapped) - No evidence headers add any power to this engine, may be worth doing with the exhaust porting, but gains will be very slight
- EGR delete (welcome to southcarolina) - No EGR, but OK
- Bennettbuilt ignition system - Rewarding one company for ripping off another
- NGK spark plugs - OK
- BHR lightweight pulleys - Gains not worth the money
- Spec stage 2 clutch (overkill but I hear some boost net build) - Waste of money, slows shifting times (boost?)
- Spec flywheel and counterwights - OK
- Re-medy water pump (Track purposes) - OK
- Silicone hoses - Waste of money
- Misimoto thermostat - Do not install - runs engine below design spec temp and unreliable part
- Aluminium radiator - OK
- Sohn adapter kit "will I still need to premix because 1st gens only have one injector" - May not supply enough oil pressure under sustained high RPM, OMP plus premix is a better solution
- A/C delete (I don't use it so lose it) - OK
- Vfad delete (blocking air) - Not blocking air under 5500RPM, but OK
- Throttle body coolant blocked off (heats cool air) - Air is not in heated area long enough to be heated, but only needed in northern climates, so OK
- LBR Aero plate - OK
- LBR Underpinning - OK
I think that's all of it. The engine is not yet in bet it should be within the next mouth or so. Once it is in, ill be getting Mazdaedit sortly after and try taking advantage of a few thing. Is there any other things to help with reliability/performance while keeping the car naturally asperated.
I'm not doing any suspension type thing for now seeing that the rx8 is arguably one of the best handling factory cars out. - You need to do suspension. The 8 is one of the best handling cars under $100K, but it still only pulls 0.8G on factory rubber, and holds about 1.2G on better rubber. My car holds up to 1.8G, which means my grip would easily overcome your power on the track.
P.S. the only parts on my car prior to the swap was
- TurboXs catback exhaust
- K&N intake
- Silicone hoses
- Aluminium radiator
Thanks, Plus
1. Safety
2. Reliability
3. Grip
4. Weight reduction
5. Power
I added some comments in bold above.
Be safe out there!
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Love the feed back. Track days won't be for awhile. For the reasons you pointed out.
Thanks for all the help Steve. How are you pulling almost 2gs?!?! Your not talking about brake force G's are you lol JK. I'll have a lot of ecu tunning for the next few months. While I worry about getting wheels, harness, etc.
- Grip - looking at Achilles ATR Sport2 surprisingly good reviews
- Safety - None any ideas?
- Reliability - most parts i ordered are for relaving the engine of stress & heat rather then power "pulleys, flywheel, etc
- Weight - I can see taking out all the speakers but I can't see myself gutting the interior (pannles & seats) any other options?
- Power - I can't see getting anymore power without either super or turbo charging. (Won't be happening this engines lifespans)
Thanks for all the help Steve. How are you pulling almost 2gs?!?! Your not talking about brake force G's are you lol JK. I'll have a lot of ecu tunning for the next few months. While I worry about getting wheels, harness, etc.
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And if anyone is buying NGK spark plugs from anywhere other then RockAuto, Amazon, or possibly eBay your getting ripped off. Im all for BHR coil if you have it like that but, still charging $100 a coil because you where the 1st to the punch is just to much!!! Especially when your competitors are very close to or even on par with your quality. This has been a slow build buying parts one buy one the past 3 years just waiting to blow the engine.... finaly everythings coming together and I'm about to put the parts to work. This might be my first posting but I've been on here reading for about 4 years. I've seen what happens when you don't read on forum's.
Glad to be taken easy on.
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Steve's advice is sound. You don't need most of the stuff on the list, and you really need more suspension. Also brake pads? Lighter battery? Weight reduction? Lighter wheels?
The Renesis' potential for more power over stock is pretty limited, so focus on making the best of the chassis. It'll never be a Mustang, but it will easy catch up to one on good tires and a suspension upgrade.
Also did I see K&N intake on there? Get rid of that travesty, that will make you more net power than the other listed mods combined.
The Renesis' potential for more power over stock is pretty limited, so focus on making the best of the chassis. It'll never be a Mustang, but it will easy catch up to one on good tires and a suspension upgrade.
Also did I see K&N intake on there? Get rid of that travesty, that will make you more net power than the other listed mods combined.
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Smoking turbo yay
In regards to BHR coils: they are overhauled now and have a completely different design. They are literally plug and play with OEM coils now. No bulky bracket or extra ground wire to work with anymore.
And yeah, tuning won't get you much more power... If you want major power upgrade, just get a blower. Staying NA won't get you too far from stock power level.
And yeah, tuning won't get you much more power... If you want major power upgrade, just get a blower. Staying NA won't get you too far from stock power level.
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Had no clue about that! That changes everything I said about them.... I imagine all those extra wires looks a mess compared to that. 🤔
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Steve's advice is sound. You don't need most of the stuff on the list, and you really need more suspension. Also brake pads? Lighter battery? Weight reduction? Lighter wheels?
The Renesis' potential for more power over stock is pretty limited, so focus on making the best of the chassis. It'll never be a Mustang, but it will easy catch up to one on good tires and a suspension upgrade.
Also did I see K&N intake on there? Get rid of that travesty, that will make you more net power than the other listed mods combined.
The Renesis' potential for more power over stock is pretty limited, so focus on making the best of the chassis. It'll never be a Mustang, but it will easy catch up to one on good tires and a suspension upgrade.
Also did I see K&N intake on there? Get rid of that travesty, that will make you more net power than the other listed mods combined.
Ahh you seen it..... Sadly yes. I do have a K&N intake. Something I'm hoping a tune will help with. I'd like to say in the future I'll swap to aem instead.
As far as suspension I'm really interests in ohlins just not realistic. Tires on are the list. Wheels I'm going to get the 40th anniversary. Brake, rotors, calipers I haven't looked into much honestly "ALL EARS".
Light battery is defiantly on the list now! Thanks any brand/type you recommend just has to be able to be daily drivable when need.
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OEM wheels are heavy, no point in using those for track duty. Get something light and in 17" size.
You can keep the original rotors if they're in spec, but get racing brake pads for when you go out. Swap them in at the same time as you swap your track tires before the event.
No need to change calipers.
Regarding the K&N: go back to stock if you can. There's nothing to be gained on these cars from upgrading the intake, and the K&N in particular has caused many others unstable idles and other problems that you can't tune out.
You can keep the original rotors if they're in spec, but get racing brake pads for when you go out. Swap them in at the same time as you swap your track tires before the event.
No need to change calipers.
Regarding the K&N: go back to stock if you can. There's nothing to be gained on these cars from upgrading the intake, and the K&N in particular has caused many others unstable idles and other problems that you can't tune out.
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Love the feed back. Track days won't be for awhile. For the reasons you pointed out.
Thanks for all the help Steve. How are you pulling almost 2gs?!?! Your not talking about brake force G's are you lol JK. I'll have a lot of ecu tunning for the next few months. While I worry about getting wheels, harness, etc.
- Grip - looking at Achilles ATR Sport2 surprisingly good reviews
- Safety - None any ideas?
- Reliability - most parts i ordered are for relaving the engine of stress & heat rather then power "pulleys, flywheel, etc
- Weight - I can see taking out all the speakers but I can't see myself gutting the interior (pannles & seats) any other options?
- Power - I can't see getting anymore power without either super or turbo charging. (Won't be happening this engines lifespans)
Thanks for all the help Steve. How are you pulling almost 2gs?!?! Your not talking about brake force G's are you lol JK. I'll have a lot of ecu tunning for the next few months. While I worry about getting wheels, harness, etc.
Wheels and Tires: Get some lightweight rims in size 17x9. Wrap them in good 235 or 245 rubber
Brakes: Install brake ducts and get a set of track pads. I run Carbotech XP10 F and XP8 R on the track and 1521 on the street on the same rotors. Flush the system with fresh DOT 4 fluid. Brakes are your most important upgrade; don't skimp here
Suspension: Learn on your stock suspension for at least a year, if you are new to the track. After that, you don't need Ohlins. These will do just fine. The ONLY other coilovers you should be considering are Bilstein PSS (B14) and Fortune 500, depending on your priorities
Engine: Get rid of that horrid hot air intake. Return to stock (without VFAD is fine) or get AEM or Racing Beat. You won't gain much from tuning, and you can't tune the suck out of that K&N intake
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So, this isn't really a track car build. This is a street car that will see occasional HPDE time. Got it.
Wheels and Tires: Get some lightweight rims in size 17x9. Wrap them in good 235 or 245 rubber
Brakes: Install brake ducts and get a set of track pads. I run Carbotech XP10 F and XP8 R on the track and 1521 on the street on the same rotors. Flush the system with fresh DOT 4 fluid. Brakes are your most important upgrade; don't skimp here
Suspension: Learn on your stock suspension for at least a year, if you are new to the track. After that, you don't need Ohlins. These will do just fine. The ONLY other coilovers you should be considering are Bilstein PSS (B14) and Fortune 500, depending on your priorities
Engine: Get rid of that horrid hot air intake. Return to stock (without VFAD is fine) or get AEM or Racing Beat. You won't gain much from tuning, and you can't tune the suck out of that K&N intake
Wheels and Tires: Get some lightweight rims in size 17x9. Wrap them in good 235 or 245 rubber
Brakes: Install brake ducts and get a set of track pads. I run Carbotech XP10 F and XP8 R on the track and 1521 on the street on the same rotors. Flush the system with fresh DOT 4 fluid. Brakes are your most important upgrade; don't skimp here
Suspension: Learn on your stock suspension for at least a year, if you are new to the track. After that, you don't need Ohlins. These will do just fine. The ONLY other coilovers you should be considering are Bilstein PSS (B14) and Fortune 500, depending on your priorities
Engine: Get rid of that horrid hot air intake. Return to stock (without VFAD is fine) or get AEM or Racing Beat. You won't gain much from tuning, and you can't tune the suck out of that K&N intake
So brakes, tires, wheel, and of course toss the hot air intake. As far as suspension im definitely holding off on. Much rather get comfortable with the cars limits as is. I've only taken it to the limit a hand full of time.
Sorry bout the Track build title. It was probable the best way to get the constructive criticism I was looking for though. I just didn't want to post a wish list build of a bunch of parts i don't have yet.
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