thexder1

Hello,

I can't post anywhere else so I am posting here hoping for some help. If you are in the Austin,TX area and can meet that would be even better.

Anyway here is the problem that I have. I just moved here from Arizona and I drove my rx8 here. I broke down just before I arrived and I was able to fix that problem. I actually caused that problem because I had just replaced the fuel pump assembly nut and apparently did not put the lock ring for the fuel line on properly. I got here fine, but a couple of days later with my car just sitting, I went to start it and it would not start, even after the deflooding process. About 6 months ago I replaced the spark plugs and the spark plug wires, but I did not replace the ignition coils at that time. I bought new ignition coils and have replaced them, but my car still will not start. I have done what I can to verify that the gas is getting to the engine, and it cranks fine (slowly now that I drained the battery trying to get it started) seems to me that it would have to be an ignition problem again, but the spark plugs and wires do not have that many miles on them. The only other possibility that I can think of is that the engine is flooded and the deflooding process did not remove enough of the gas, I did let it sit for a few days hoping that would help, but it did not help. If it is still flooded, then I would need some tools and a jump start, battery charger, or a charged battery.

Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeff

200.mph

iTrader: (9)

if its a stick push/pull start it in 2nd gear and pop the clutch. make sure the key is on tho lol

RIWWP

iTrader: (2)

Yes, sounds flooded, and your deflood attempts are just not getting enough gas out, and it's re-flooding every time you attempt to start normally because the battery is drained. Most deflooding with the starter will drain the battery before you can start cleanly.

Get a set of jumper cables to keep the battery alive, and be more persistent about deflooding before you try to start.

thexder1

Thanks for the suggestions. The battery was fine when the car first would not start, and I was very persistent with the deflooding as I have ran into problems like this before, but now I just have the problem that I can't really do much because of the dead battery.

I would try to push start, but that is not exactly easy when I have no one to help me with it right now.

In any case I will see what I can do to get it started... May take me a while to figure things out though since I just moved here and currently have no way to get around.

200.mph

iTrader: (9)

op theres a lot of good guys from tx on here. check your regional forum, im sure someone local would give you a hand. dont forget to buy the beer and pizza tho

thexder1

I know there are a lot of people in TX on here, I just cannot create a new thread in the regional forums so I was hoping maybe getting one of them to respond on here. Anyways I have a plan of how I am going to get it fixed, it just might take me a little while to implement.

thexder1

Well tried to jump start my car did deflooding 3 times, about 10 seconds each before trying to start and no change... I guess I will order battery charger and spark plug socket and charge the battery, remove the spark plugs, clean the spark plugs and if there is any gas when the spark plugs are removed then I will leave them out and disconnect the fuel pump to make sure no fuel is going to the engine, then crank it off an on until either the battery is too low or no more gas shows up in the spark plug sockets. That is unless there are any other suggestions to get it to start.

thexder1

I never was able to get the car started. I eventually got it towed to a shop and they found that the car would not start due to loss of compression. Luckily they were able to find a way to fix it without replacing the engine.

RIWWP

iTrader: (2)

^ They lied to you or made up a story with no basis in fact.

You can't replace worn seals without an engine rebuild or replacing the engine.

Your problem was either something else or they replaced the engine and didn't tell you. Or you still have failing compression and they just got you going again.

04Green

iTrader: (1)

Only way that works is if they shot some oil into the rotors and started it. other than that, I am with RIWWP.

The flood washes all the oil of everything, and will impact compression. If you had those piston thingies, and had bad compression, the next test is to squirt in oil, if that fixes it, you have a ring problem, if not, you have a valve problem. But, the basis of the original flood is still a problem.

If you write it off to bad coils, that is likely correct. I personally think the coils last longer than the plugs.

thexder1

They found a trick from someone who was more familiar with the rotary engines. They said it was something like putting GM top engine cleaner in the rotors overnight through the spark plug holes, then drained it in the morning and they were then able to start it. So they did add an oil based product to the engine. They described the process that they used to me, I just did not feel like writing it all down, or typing it all into my previous post.

In any case the point is that I discussed thee possibility of replacing the engine with the mechanic and went as far as discussing prices that seemed similar to what I have seen at various other places, but he was trying any trick he could come up with to fix the problem without replacing the engine. Now he said that he had gotten it to start regularly again. I do not doubt that the flood caused it, I just know that the last time I had a similar problem I was eventually able to get it started after replacing the old spark plugs and spark plug wires, then had to use a battery charger that could be used for starting to get it started, but after that it worked. This time I just replaced the ignition coils because I had a check engine code come up for a spark plug miss fire, but the plugs and wires should have been new enough to be fine.