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40th anniversary Edition
If its still available, that 2006 with 82,000km is a better one to spend money getting a compression test on. There were some important improvements made (like a stronger starter and better EMS flash) by the 2006 model and with less mileage your odds of at least a good compression test increase. I don't know the differences from the UK and Japanese 8's. Probably more in trim rather than anything mechanical. UK folks please chime in here on this. The US and Canada 2006 models (depending on when it was sold in 2006 ) could actually still be under Mazda"s 8yr 100,000 mile rotary engine core warranty ! UK folks let us know what the engine warranty is for UK 8's. That might be a factor to consider as that 2006 is imported from UK.
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Thanks for your thoughts the dealer is doing the compression test at a well known rotary mechanics shop on Tuesday ...they haven't asked me to pay, which is great. It's $13k, the '04 isn't likely to go for more than $8.
One weird difference I've noticed with UK 8s is the power output claims...they call the 6 port the 231, as in 231hp. Don't the Japanese/us versions claim 247?
One weird difference I've noticed with UK 8s is the power output claims...they call the 6 port the 231, as in 231hp. Don't the Japanese/us versions claim 247?
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There's an '04 with 130,000 km on an online auction and it looks like it will go for cheap. Given that I've seen two cars fail a compression test at 100,000 km, what's the chances of a car with that many km having a good result? Or will I just be throwing a few hundred away for the test?
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Well, I know it's a risk... but I put a cheeky big on a Japanese auction for a 2007 with 50,000km. I doubt I will get it, but it's possible.
If not, I will look to get the local 2006 with 80,000 provided the compression test is fine. I'll know Tuesday...
If not, I will look to get the local 2006 with 80,000 provided the compression test is fine. I'll know Tuesday...
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Thanks for your thoughts the dealer is doing the compression test at a well known rotary mechanics shop on Tuesday ...they haven't asked me to pay, which is great. It's $13k, the '04 isn't likely to go for more than $8.
One weird difference I've noticed with UK 8s is the power output claims...they call the 6 port the 231, as in 231hp. Don't the Japanese/us versions claim 247?
One weird difference I've noticed with UK 8s is the power output claims...they call the 6 port the 231, as in 231hp. Don't the Japanese/us versions claim 247?
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Join the facebook page RX8 Owners NZ they have occasional ones come up on there. One came up tonight, at least you know all the cars and owners on there are a great bunch and they all group together so might even be able to find you a decent one and give you great buying advice.
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If you don't have it tested before you buy it. Then get a quote from a good rebuilder. And make sure you will have enough money left over for a rebuild.
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So I went in to see the 2006 6 speed with 80,000km while it was with a mechanic to have the compression test done. The stormy blue is not a colour I've seen often ... and i'ts nice, just more purple than I expected.
I was surprised to see that he only had one result per rotor. He said if he had any reason to do so, he would have done a pulse test, but in his opinion the results were fine and didn't require it. I can imagine people here will say that's not a sufficient result; but this guy only works with rotarys and racing... surely he knows what he is talking about?
The compression test results were 105 psi for both rotors, at 270 RPM. He described as running fine and something I should have no problems with for a couple of years, if I maintain it.
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I was surprised to see that he only had one result per rotor. He said if he had any reason to do so, he would have done a pulse test, but in his opinion the results were fine and didn't require it. I can imagine people here will say that's not a sufficient result; but this guy only works with rotarys and racing... surely he knows what he is talking about?
The compression test results were 105 psi for both rotors, at 270 RPM. He described as running fine and something I should have no problems with for a couple of years, if I maintain it.
Thoughts?
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40th anniversary Edition
So I went in to see the 2006 6 speed with 80,000km while it was with a mechanic to have the compression test done. The stormy blue is not a colour I've seen often ... and i'ts nice, just more purple than I expected.
I was surprised to see that he only had one result per rotor. He said if he had any reason to do so, he would have done a pulse test, but in his opinion the results were fine and didn't require it. I can imagine people here will say that's not a sufficient result; but this guy only works with rotarys and racing... surely he knows what he is talking about?
The compression test results were 105 psi for both rotors, at 270 RPM. He described as running fine and something I should have no problems with for a couple of years, if I maintain it.
Thoughts?
I was surprised to see that he only had one result per rotor. He said if he had any reason to do so, he would have done a pulse test, but in his opinion the results were fine and didn't require it. I can imagine people here will say that's not a sufficient result; but this guy only works with rotarys and racing... surely he knows what he is talking about?
The compression test results were 105 psi for both rotors, at 270 RPM. He described as running fine and something I should have no problems with for a couple of years, if I maintain it.
Thoughts?
As you see by the compression test number scale here, that 105 psi at 270 rpm is ok but marginal (at sealevel). (be sure these figures are normaliized for where you are in relation to sealevel) You have three faces per each rotor and you really needed to know all the numbers because one or more bad faces can mean engine trouble coming. You are cheating yourself not to have all six compression numbers, three per rotor face ,so you really know the condition of the engine.
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I have read and re-read the thread for new and potential owners. And I expected I'd see 6 numbers in the result. But what confused me is this guy is a well known rotary mechanic and he has been doing this for decades. Oh and the numbers are at sea level.
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Here are a couple I'm looking at:
This is the UK import I just had the 'improper' compression test results on
http://www.trademe.co.nz/browse/listing.aspx?id=752415889&/listing?rfm=1
2006 jap import type S with 64k km
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=743366688
And if I had a couple grand more...love this car!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=750227913
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