BigCajun

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Did you drive it yet?
If so, did you try to restart it like I said?

Ecliipzez

Haven’t picked it up yet, they are closed Saturday and Sunday. I am paying on Monday and I need to ask them some questions about the removal process. And I’m the opposite I understand more with voice not reading.

BigCajun

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If you don't know yet, use only premium gas.

kevinande

If it were me I would trailer or tow it home. Although it may start and run, you don't know much about it. Some of the fluids could be low, low air pressure in the tires etc. You certainly don't want to add any more items to the fix it list.

Ecliipzez

Found out my moms insurance has free tows so i'm covered. But I have a question about the apex seals, do they all fail or do they only fail if you don't care for the engine? Like could someone do everything and they will still fail?

Loki

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You have a lot of reading to do. All rotaries eventually die, not always because of apex seal failure. "Apex seals" is what people who don't know rotaries say about rotaries. Some last a long time, some don't. It depends on care regiment, who built it and what mood they were in at the time, how the car is driven, etc. These days buying a used RX8 means buying the previous owner(s)'s mistakes, so you need to understand what state your specific example is in and work from there.

Ecliipzez

Well couldn't this be said about any engine? I do not know a lot but I will learn faster once i have the actual car you know? From me talking to previous owner hes gotten it to 100K miles and he seems to know a lot of the preventive measures, I am feeling a bit overwhelmed though.

Loki

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Ok well why don't we start with what preventive measures he used.
But eventually you will need to get a compression test and make your decisions from there.

The "New and Potential" owners thread has all this info covered thoroughly, you might want to bite the bullet and read it.

BigCajun

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This^
READ IT.
READ IT AGAIN.
Then once more.

We don't mind (usually) giving new members advice, but it helps if it appears you made an effort and can show you've a done some research.
If we get the same questions that other noobs have asked a million times, then the advice might dry up.
Don't take it personally, use it as a critique and motivation to learn.

We were all noobs once.

Good luck!

UnknownJinX

From what I have gathered, yeah apex seals can be an issue on an S1 8 with only 2 oil injectors on the side, and I have seen some apex seals from an 8 on the web with more wear towards the centre, which forms a concave shape. I doubt most people know that, though, and just said it for the meme. I personally joke about it, but at the end of the day I know it's a stereotype, and Mazda has solved the apex problems in the 60s already. There are debates on whether the 787B deserves the 1st place in 1991, but no can deny that it lasted 24 hours, being run like hell.

The apex seals also isn't the only cause. Side seals are said to be even more fragile due to the heat they have to handle from the side exhaust port design, and remember that the early ignition coils are terrible, which clogs the cat, damages the engine and just a few weeks ago, someone on Reddit had their R3 8 catch fire because of that.

Ecliipzez

Well boys I got here and have been working on her a lot. Here's the Instagram i made for my car.

https://www.instagram.com/local.rx8/?hl=en

Having some issues, it takes like 3 seconds to start up every time. I know it would be due to a bad starter but my car is a 2007 and I thought they fixed it on the 2005? Also when i start it and stay on the clutch in neutral it sounds rough but once i let go it runs normally. Bad compression maybe? I just her insured it, need to get tags and inspected.

BigCajun

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Bad compression could cause your symptoms.
Could be a number of things.
Vacuum, MAF, fuel pump....

You could get a rotary specific compression test to gage the health of your engine before you sink too much more money into it.

In the meantime you could do some simple things that could help and don't cost too much.
First, if it's drivable, go to your nearest parts store and get a free OBD scan to see what codes may be stored.
That could help pinpoint any pressing issues now.
Once you do that, post your results here and it'll be easier for us to help you rather than just guessing what could be wrong.

While you're there pick up a can of spray MAF
cleaner, about $6.
MAF, not brake or carburetor cleaner.

Get an ignition HEI tester, looks like a spark plug, to check your ignition system, about $15.

Read the symptoms and causes thread I'm linking for you and start learning how to troubleshoot your issues, it will save you a ton of money to DIY.

https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-f...causes-249529/

BigCajun

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First thing you can do is to learn how to take your air filter out and clean your
MAF, 2 little screws on top of the intake hold it in, be careful tightening it, they strip easily.
Getting the filter out is a PITA, there's a trick to it, if you go to YouTube you'll find a video to show you how.

Check to see if your air filter has any oil in it, if it does you'll have to take your intake apart and clean it.
Overfilling the oil is common and can cause problems starting.

BigCajun

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It would be a good idea to check your plugs.
If you have a place to work on it, you should invest in a pair of jackstands, and maybe a floor jack.
You can use your car jack, but it takes a while.
You can access the plugs by taking the LF wheel off.
Do one plug and wire at a time so you don't cross the wires.
That can be VERY BAD.
You have 2 leading and 2 trailing plugs, they're different.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-...-change-31872/

BigCajun

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This thread has some good info in it and is currently active.
TeamRX8 is very knowledgeable, if a little gruff.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tro...4/#post4890648

Ecliipzez

OBD- I have no lights on in dash, only a tire pressure light, but i suspect because i have aftermarket wheels and tires on probably didn't put sensor back in. Neighbor has a scanner and said no point if no lights on.

MAF- Cleaned two days ago had some MAF spray in garage already so that's a check.

Filter- Had to change radator the other day, went to fill gas and started leaking once I got home. Contacted former owner, it was cracked but then a week later it got hit so yeah. Filter did have oil on it, thinking of picking up a K&A reusable filter. Cleaned intake as well.

Plugs- I have a jack and jack stands, just had her on stands today to check exhaust. I will take a look at them soon but i'm wore out of working on this car lol. I did get my exhaust straightened by some good old chains and another car. Need to get it pushed back though sticking out a little.

BigCajun

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DO NOT GET A K&N FILTER!!!!.
Your stock intake is your best option at this point.
Those K&Ns are crap.
You need to stick to this forum for RX8 advice.
Do research.

Your neighbor doesn't know jack if he thinks a scan should be done only when a CEL is on.

Does he own an RX8?

If not listen to the people on this forum.

Ecliipzez

https://www.autozone.com/external-en...ter/576197_0_0 This one is bad? I need a new one idk where to find a good quality one.

He knows his stuff just maybe went over his head lol.

Nope, but I went to ask for his tool you know im not gonna say make a remark lol ill pick one up.

BigCajun

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I misunderstood you.
I actually thought you were talking about the K&N intake that has a reusable filter.
I still wouldn't use a reusable one.
They say it increases HP, to me that means less restrictive, probably coarser filter media which allows more flow and impurities.
You can get a free scan for now from AutoZone, you don't need to buy a dedicated scan tool.
You can get get a smartphone app and bluetooth dongle.

Ecliipzez

Do flooded engines cause long startups?

Loki

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No. Poor ignition and other engine problems cause flooded engines and other problems. It's a symptom not a cause.

Ecliipzez

Well I have a 2007 so I don't expect it to be the starter. The coils were replaced two years ago aswell.

Steve Dallas

You need to test things, not make assumptions about their health.

BigCajun

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In my experience a flooded engine won't start at all unless you take steps to deflood it.
It can take longer after you deflood it but it should be fine after that unless you don't fix whatever is causing it to flood.

Ecliipzez

Tried to get it inspected failed catalyst (I don’t have one straight piped) and failed Evap Sys any ideas why?