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Old 10-14-2013 | 10:30 AM
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my 2004 mazda rx8 wont start, PLZ HELP!!

Hello eveybody i purchased my 2004 mazda rx8 (manual) about 3 months ago everything was running great, until on saturday morning i moved it and turned it off without letting it warm up, it has been 3 days and it doesnt turn on. i first tried turning it on by push starting, and it didnt turn on, it sounded like it wanted to but it failed.
i was sure i flooded it, so i followed the method of unflooding it, i took out the fuel pump cranked for 10-12 seconds waited for another 12 seconds and did it again, i did this for about 4-5 times. put the fuel pump back in and still doesnt start. i retried this method like 5 times to the point where i burnt my starter
so i bought a new started and put it in, i also got a new battery.
i then took out the the 4 spark plugs and dried them out, i then tried turning it back on and nothing
i even tried by spraying starting fluid and still nothing
i had a friend of mine thats a mechanic come take a look at it, he told me that since i did all that already it probably is not flooded anymore
i feel like its still flooded tho? or is not flooded?
he told me to get new spark plugs and spark wires that could be reason its not starting
at this point i really dont know what to do anymore
what else can it be? do i try the deflooding method again?
do i buy new spark plugs
and is it still flooded?
plz any suggestions/ comments would be of great help
Old 10-14-2013 | 10:34 AM
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sounds flooded. how old are your coils? new plugs should help if yours are old. if you can pull start it with another vehicle. key on, 2nd gear, let off clutch once your rolling. easiset way to start a flooded 8
Old 10-14-2013 | 10:35 AM
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You "took out the fuel pump" ?? Just to clarify, you disconnected the pump right (or removed fuse)? You didn't just pull it out and leave it still powered.
Old 10-14-2013 | 10:54 AM
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200.mph - well we did check if there was spark and there is spark
do you suggest on getting new spark plugs and spark cables?

paimon.soror - i disconnected the fuel pump fuse (20A)
Old 10-14-2013 | 10:56 AM
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depends on how your plugs look. can you post some pics?
Old 10-14-2013 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ecuarep93
200.mph - well we did check if there was spark and there is spark
do you suggest on getting new spark plugs and spark cables?

paimon.soror - i disconnected the fuel pump fuse (20A)
\Ah ok, the way it read it sounded like you actually removed the pump.

Pics of spark plugs?
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Still sound flooded to me...get new plugs at least. there's a couple deflooding methods out there. This is the one that worked for me...twice...just gotta keep trying and don't crank for more than 5-8 seconds as you will burn your starter out....after doing on and off for a couple minutes, let your starter rest for a minute.

Here's the one that works for me:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-...lumber-182410/

edit - Oh and holding the pedal to the metal while starting, will also kick your fuel pump off...nifty little trick that carried over from the RX7 to the RX8. You can see I'm about the 4th post down on that thread telling my findings.

Last edited by rotarykillz; 10-14-2013 at 02:33 PM. Reason: updated info
Old 10-15-2013 | 02:35 PM
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thank you guys
yes it was flooded, i retried the deflooding procedure and after the 4th try i got it to deflood
either way i am going to change the spark plugs because they look old
thanks again for all your comments!
Old 10-15-2013 | 05:12 PM
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If you have the funds, I would recommend getting all new ignition (plugs, coils and wires). Or and even better option is to go with the black halo racing ignition Black Halo Racing Ignition System | Black Halo Racing
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