RIWWP

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Insurance should be lower on an 8 than most sports cars, more comparable to 4-door sedans. Most companies list it as a 4-door sedan. There are a few companies which re-class it to a sports car and jack up the prices, but it's largely unjustified. There aren't enough 8's, and not enough 8s being wrecked, to back it up.

kingjain

Thats good news! I'll have to call my agent, but I'll probably end up getting the 8 in my parent's name because it will definitely be cheaper.

I still have to speak to this seller about the compression test. I asked another dealer if they would do it or allow me to take it somewhere to do it and they rejected and got almost defensive about it. They said they already did sufficient tests on the vehicle to make it "motor trend certified." :-/

None of these ATs seem to have leather seats ....but its no big i guess lol.

RIWWP

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Seriously, any dealer that objects to it has something to hide. Stand firm on that.

ken-x8

Does an RX-8 auto transmission have a rear pump?

Ken

maxchao

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Hmm...AT still losses efficiency in the torque converter and higher in weight, but that's probably not enough to make much of a difference.
It's the torque at the wheel that you feel, so unless AT has the same gear ratio, you butt would feel differently. I'd guess they wouldn't use the same gear ratio in the AT since it's not as race-specific.
The only thing I hate about MT is the discontinuous power transfer during shifting, but I can't stand computer making gear decision for me. Now, if more manufacturer would put dual clutch in their cars...

RIWWP

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The AT does have different gearing at the transmission and a different rear gear. The net result is roughly the same amount of "push" in any of the AT's I've driven.

slvrstreak

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anybody have the gear ratios MT vs AT?
i would assume the biggest difference is 5th...5th gear suuuucks and comes in way too early and 6th gear i only use as overdrive on the interstate basically

RIWWP

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Come on slvr, you know how to punch in "Google.com"

This is the S2:

Gear Ratios (:1) 6MT 6AT
1st 3.82 3.54
2nd 2.26 2.06
3rd 1.54 1.40
4th 1.18 1.00
5th 1.00 0.71
6th 0.79 0.58
Reverse 3.60 3.17
Final drive 4.78 4.30

I'll let you search for the S1.

slvrstreak

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man! i hate searching

RIWWP

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If you are still a virgin, be advised that you may have to search for a place to put your pecker some day. If procreation is an intended side effect, it is generally recommended that you filter out guys from that search.


If you aren't a virgin, then I guess searching wasn't all that bad now was it?

fuztupnz

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^^^^ that just made my morning

slvrstreak

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ask your wife...she seemed to find what she was looking for

RIWWP

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That's a terrible come-back. If nothing else, it's justifying the whole goal of searching, which you were complaining against. I love it when I have my point proven by the person who was complaining against it.

If you were referring to the gender thing, I was using the long-standing assumption that you are a guy. If you are a girl, then by all means, filter out guys and roll some video for us.

slvrstreak

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dang i just cant win with you Pearl

<hangs head and runs away>

kingjain

Interestingly enough, both dealers rejected my plea to get a compression test done. It's really annoying because those are the only two auto 8s 2006+ with decent mileage within 150 miles of me. ughhhh why can't they just be straightforward with me :/

wcs

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Think of it this way, do you want to do business with a dealership that will not do what you are asking them.
No
Move along these aren't the droids you're looking for.

maxchao

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This is what I expected. Every gear is taller, and even the final drive is taller. So in the same gear MT would push harder than AT.

AT would be quieter at 6th gear on the highway though, but the engine isn't really the one that's making the noise.

So in 2nd gear MT has combined gear ratio of 2.26*4.78=10.8 and AT has 2.06*4.3 = 8.8, so MT would push ~18% harder, if the engine is the same.

But then...AT can stay in 2nd gear longer, so at some point MT has to shift and AT doesn't, then AT pushes harder...so I guess on avg as long as the engine is the same the avg push that a person feels is pretty close...

What am I doing this?? Sorry for talking to myself..

ESBjiujitsu

1. This is a greatly informative thread!

2. This is a great quote -> "Move along these aren't the droids you're looking for."

3. Im currently in the hunt for an rx8 in Charlotte NC. I actually had my eye on a real gem for about 2 weeks while i arranged all my financing and just yesterday the car finally sold , so Im back in the hunt. I cant wait to get myself into an rx8. i origonaly wanted one before I purchased my ms6 2 years ago, and have been researching the rx8 and rotaries in general since then in preperation for this moment! lol. I have turned into a complete rotary geek now and im obsessed with rx8club so i finally joined. Im crossing my fingers that I will find another good deal soon and will be able to jump on it.

4. I couldnt live with out my MT lol

RIWWP

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From a pure gear stand-point, the MT "pushes" harder, however you aren't taking into account the torque converter of the AT which simulates more torque than the engine can put out. And the AT can't stay in 2nd gear longer. It's shorter. If you started from a complete stop, the MT has 20% more possible revs, which is more than the AT's 18% higher gearing (using your math. I'd have to dig for the 2nd gear 7.5k redline speed to compare to the MT's 2nd gear 9.0k redline speed). And that is just from stopped. If you redlined in 1st before shifting to 2nd in both cars, it changes that whole dynamic because you are starting in different RPM points for 2nd gear.

Also, my 6th gear makes a bit more noise at 3k rpm cruise than it does at 4krpm. 4k just hums, 3k growls. Still quiet, but a bit louder. Lower rpm doesn't always mean "quieter" Most noise is tire and wind noise anyway.

clockwoRX

Hey everyone,

I am beginning my research and planning my purchase of an RX-8 sometime mid 2012. I currently have a 2002 WRX with turbo upgrade and tune etc... This is going to be paid off 8 months early, and my plan is to sell and use the $$$ for a down payment on a used 8. i was originally looking at the 8 to buy, but we had a kid on the way, so the WRX just seemed to be the better option. And, at the time, it was. But since then, my kids outgrew the car, and so I ended up getting a SUV as a "Practical Family Vehicle." Needless to say, soon I will be able to go with my original intent on a "toy" if you will. Don't get me wrong, the WRX is a beast and a blast to drive. I've already heard the typical, "Are you crazy?!? Sell your WRX for an RX-8?!?" and other such questions. But, I had my fun with it and would like to pick up an 8 as I am madly in love with just about all aspects of the car. I've read, watched youtube videos, and am already looking at performance mods lol. Speed is no longer a factor in my life since my two beautiful angels entered my life. Besides, if you don't slow down, life will just pass you by. So, I look forward to the mass amounts of info I can obtain from this forum, and cannot wait to get my hands on an 8!

ESBjiujitsu

Well said, Im right there with you. Coming off having a MS6 with a good bit of power adders Im ready to get into something that is going to fullfill my styling wants and handling needs vs. MASS POWER!!!! Good luck with your research and finding the one thats right for you. This forum is a great resource, just read all the stickies and you will be overwhlemed with great info.

maxchao

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Oh I totally forgot about the redline in AT. true in that case MT seems to be in advantage. I like that lol.
I make a 2 hour highway drive every other week to Atlanta, and I cruise at 80. That puts my rpm at 4k, which is quiet other than the weird 6th whine that I have. The road noise just dominates because of the crappy road.

ESBjiujitsu

I just moved to charlotte from atlanta and I am still selling my house in atlanta so I have been driving 85 back and forth many weekends in my Ms6 and a lot of the roads in SC are horrible so i feel your pain. Lots of uneven pavment and old sections of road, it makes for a "awesome" annoying sound on top of an already boring road trip. lol

maxchao

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Yes I don't even mind the bouncing but the road noise really drones the music out...Now I really appreciate driving on a new pavement.

Zombie762

Here we go.

so i bought an RX8 off my dad, it ran great for him, have had it about a year now with no real problems. i always run 93, i religiously change the oil every 2.5k miles. it developed a coolent leak from the t-sat houseing. i was able to get the whole way down there and replace the gasket and stop the leak. get everything back together. and now since i have had to un plug the ecu, when i start it, i will die after about 45 if i leave it alone, i can keep it running for about ten minutes if i stay with it and big toe the throttle a little here and there. i have heard that if i drive it around a little after a few cycles it will be back to normal, but if i put it in gear and try to drive it cuts out and dies.

any ideas?