1Jzgte Rx-8 Garage Swap
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LS, I replied to exactly what Joker wrote, he said and I quote "
PROBLEM motor needs to move "7" inches back to connect tranny to rear diff". There was a hint of humour in my reply. I do not think the 3 P's were used in this swap attempt.
PROBLEM motor needs to move "7" inches back to connect tranny to rear diff". There was a hint of humour in my reply. I do not think the 3 P's were used in this swap attempt.
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hey sooo yea,, im using the oem drive shaft the oem metal "tail shaft" oem tranny and adapter,,,,,
okay so with the "tail shaft" connected to the rear diff the tranny/engine combo did not reach as the oil pan was catching on the k member, know that the new pan is fitted i should be able to connect the "tail shaft" to the tranny then with the engine crane adjust the height and hood clearance i need and fabricate some engine mounts
then vacuum lines coolant lines, wiring harness and ignition
okay so with the "tail shaft" connected to the rear diff the tranny/engine combo did not reach as the oil pan was catching on the k member, know that the new pan is fitted i should be able to connect the "tail shaft" to the tranny then with the engine crane adjust the height and hood clearance i need and fabricate some engine mounts
then vacuum lines coolant lines, wiring harness and ignition
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here is the motor lifted out so i can remove the tranny and change oil pans
here is a pic of the 1jz and 2jz(rear sump) oil pans side by side
and here is the rear sump (2jz) oil pan installed
here is a pic of the 1jz and 2jz(rear sump) oil pans side by side
and here is the rear sump (2jz) oil pan installed
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in preparation of fitting everything together to finally bolt in the motor/tranny assembly the throw-out bearing had to be finished i had to use the heavy duty much larger 1jz throw-out bearing
the 1jz's inner diameter was i believe 45mm and the Rx-8 6speed's throw-out was 36"
here is a pic of that
now the solution was a spacer I had it machined 36mm.id. x 45mm.od. allso I had a washer/fork base made 5mm x 45mm.id. x 56mm.od.
here they are together the 5mm washer allows the forks to have a greater surface area to connect only to the non rotating section of the bearing leaving the outer side of the bearing to rotate freely against the pressure plate
here is the assembly installed with minimal tolerances
tomorrow I reassemble everything for the last time and get my mounts made!!
the 1jz's inner diameter was i believe 45mm and the Rx-8 6speed's throw-out was 36"
here is a pic of that
now the solution was a spacer I had it machined 36mm.id. x 45mm.od. allso I had a washer/fork base made 5mm x 45mm.id. x 56mm.od.
here they are together the 5mm washer allows the forks to have a greater surface area to connect only to the non rotating section of the bearing leaving the outer side of the bearing to rotate freely against the pressure plate
here is the assembly installed with minimal tolerances
tomorrow I reassemble everything for the last time and get my mounts made!!
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this will be the assembly of the motor mounts,,,, Im doing this wrong but it's the strongest easiest cheapest way i can make it work, the drawing is not to scale or exact in placement all final fitting will be done in person wit the materials in place
#59
Man I would box that rectangle stock and at least weld them to the car. I welded my stand on and they are made out of 3/16" steel. But they have short faces and are boxed so very sturdy. What are you gonna do for steering? I used some Hinson drop down brackets but they mount to the factory rack mounts which you cut off. Lol
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Yes everything is getting welded as a finishing step,,, also I was going to make a drop down braket and just extend the tie rods,,, how much is the hinson and can you post a pic?
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Hinson sells fhe rackrelocation brackets(you cant use now bc you cut the stock rack mount off) and bump steer kit which drops the tie rod ends with the rack. You could use a manual rack or Mazda rack and make up alot of room. I kinda regret going with the EPS. Should have used a miata or RX7 rack.
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Hinson sells fhe rackrelocation brackets(you cant use now bc you cut the stock rack mount off) and bump steer kit which drops the tie rod ends with the rack. You could use a manual rack or Mazda rack and make up alot of room. I kinda regret going with the EPS. Should have used a miata or RX7 rack.
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Hinson sells fhe rackrelocation brackets(you cant use now bc you cut the stock rack mount off) and bump steer kit which drops the tie rod ends with the rack. You could use a manual rack or Mazda rack and make up alot of room. I kinda regret going with the EPS. Should have used a miata or RX7 rack.
#64
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Another guy who sells the rack relocation kit & bumpsteer ends is LSConversions - V8 Rx8 Conversions
Obviously the rest of his parts are useless to you, but those guys may help you.
Progress looks good! Good to know another swapped RX8 is going to be prowling the GTA streets!
Are you desiring the electric steering stay? For what its worth, I'm swapping a hydraulic rack into my LS swapped '05 as I am not a fan of electric steering, the fact that the rack is jammed down below the subframe, and since the LS1 has a hydraulic pump fitted to it, I see no reason to keep EPS.
Also I have my LS1 sitting much lower then everyone else it seems as I am trying to make the least impact on the moment of the car that I can, my oil pan is pretty well flush with the bottom of the subframe, and I had to notch the subframe in the front between the old rack mounts for clearance, so even with a smaller diameter body on a hydraulic rack it is still low.
Obviously the rest of his parts are useless to you, but those guys may help you.
Progress looks good! Good to know another swapped RX8 is going to be prowling the GTA streets!
Are you desiring the electric steering stay? For what its worth, I'm swapping a hydraulic rack into my LS swapped '05 as I am not a fan of electric steering, the fact that the rack is jammed down below the subframe, and since the LS1 has a hydraulic pump fitted to it, I see no reason to keep EPS.
Also I have my LS1 sitting much lower then everyone else it seems as I am trying to make the least impact on the moment of the car that I can, my oil pan is pretty well flush with the bottom of the subframe, and I had to notch the subframe in the front between the old rack mounts for clearance, so even with a smaller diameter body on a hydraulic rack it is still low.
#65
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NC Chassis is fairly close to bolting right up, only issue is the bypass lines on it come vertically out of it which may or may not be a clearance issue depending on how low your motor is sitting in the car.
For myself, I would still have to space down a miata rack for clearance, I ended up buying a Mustang rack which is proving optimal for the way it mounts allowing maximum ground clearance, forward facing bypasses gives more clearance to bottom of the pan, and the tie rod ends are same diameter/thread, just need shortening.
For myself, I would still have to space down a miata rack for clearance, I ended up buying a Mustang rack which is proving optimal for the way it mounts allowing maximum ground clearance, forward facing bypasses gives more clearance to bottom of the pan, and the tie rod ends are same diameter/thread, just need shortening.
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If I understand it correctly, the original steering rack can be converted without going to all that fitment trouble ...
RX8 - Power Steering Conversion - V8 Roadsters
RX8 - Power Steering Conversion - V8 Roadsters
Conversion kit from EPS to a modified Mazda hydraulic rack. The ports on the rack are pointed directly at the oil pan and clearance is at a minimum. We've devised a system that allows you to use the stock ports and clear the oil pan. This means no cutting and welding! Kit includes all braided lines and fittings for the rack.
This kit require a core swap of a functioning rack. Add $265 without core swap. When shipping core please remove tie-rods.
This kit require a core swap of a functioning rack. Add $265 without core swap. When shipping core please remove tie-rods.
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If I understand it correctly, the original steering rack can be converted without going to all that fitment trouble ...
RX8 - Power Steering Conversion - V8 Roadsters
RX8 - Power Steering Conversion - V8 Roadsters
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You'd have to discuss it with them. That picture may not be the actual RX8 fitment for all I know. Just throwing it out there that they claim to offer a bolt-on solution.
Edit: reading it again it's not clear what rack core they require.
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Edit: reading it again it's not clear what rack core they require.
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Last edited by TeamRX8; 02-02-2015 at 09:55 AM.
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fitment of the rear sump oil pan with 5/8ths inch tranny adapter just barley slips behind the k member while the tranny is in the oem position with drive shaft attached
turbos are all reattached and plumbed in
working on the intake manifold an deleting as many coolant and vacuum routes as possible also had the BOV adapter welded on to the throttle body "because reasons"
turbos are all reattached and plumbed in
working on the intake manifold an deleting as many coolant and vacuum routes as possible also had the BOV adapter welded on to the throttle body "because reasons"
#73
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Looks good!!
Are you still planning on running the EPS rack? Looks like it will be tight!
I opted for a mustang steering rack for mine, looks like it will be a dream to fit in!
Did you have to cut the firewall behind the turbo's?
Are you still planning on running the EPS rack? Looks like it will be tight!
I opted for a mustang steering rack for mine, looks like it will be a dream to fit in!
Did you have to cut the firewall behind the turbo's?
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yup Im going to try my best to reuse the EPS rack and I had to cut and hammer the firewall,, one the engine starts up im pulling it all out again to weld any holes shave the bay and tidy it all up with a few more coats of rustoleum blue
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so Thanks to 9krpmrx8 i know know what I am looking at in terms of hooking up fuel to the 1jzgte the answer being one is the fuel supply and one is just a fuel tank vent
I may just run the return fuel down the vent and have a vented gas cap ill dig in more tomorrow
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I may just run the return fuel down the vent and have a vented gas cap ill dig in more tomorrow
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