BigCajun

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It's a Frankenstani swap.
I haven't heard of one of those yet.
It could work.
I've always dreamed of those Pakistani sports cars, but alas, I lack the 3rd world mentality to realize that dream.

Joker_andthe_thief

it's do-able it's hella do-able, ill post up as I progress and get to taking it around the block.

Joker_andthe_thief

aiming for function not form
well I figure if the Jawas (sand people) can do it so can I,

GK1707

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Your signature pic is extremely ironic, compared to the topic at hand.

LSXREX

Hard to justify building a suspension and driveline capable of fast 1/4 mile times in such an unexplored and difficult chassis. If i wanted to go fast in a straight line mazda wouldnt even be in my sights. But realistically bottom 12s, high elevens is respectable in a daily street car and even bwtter for a car with such a limp wristed reputation. To guy who commented on 2 grand for fittings. Kaster P could build a hydraulic factory with gold plated fittings and not spend 2k. You kust have the worlds most elaborate fuel and oil systems. As an engineer we try to do stuff as simple as possible to accomplish the mission and my setup is more than adequate for my needs and well built with contingencies in place. I would guess i have around $600 in my fuel system includijg a new AEM pump and filter/regulator. Only rotaries need a complete two exchanger oil coling system so mine system just consists of........ an oil pan. It seems the people who havent even completed a swap have a pretty high measure of "complete." I live in Austin TX and we have strict emmissions/inspection annuall. Every one of my swaps have been able to pass emmissioj with no big deal. I swapped a 94 Chevy stepside with OBD 1 and passed the roller with cats and a conservative tune. RX8 is plug in (OBD2). Just as easy and spoofing the emmissions monitors and changing the VIN in the GM to the RX8 Vin. No CEL and it will pass visual as cats will be used. Im retty realistic about my version of complete. As long as the car performs its intended purpose and works for the owner than the damn thing is complete. Im not batting for this guys team but you can go on youtube and check out that yokels LS1 swapped RX8 that previously had a 351W. Horrible execution but he drives it daily. My definition of complete is nothing impeding driving, most of the options work, AC is a must, cruise control (bc i mostly use DBW LSX swaps), and be abke to hop in and drive it anywhere. Thats why i tend to avoid high hp builds as they are very expensive, attract a narror market, difficult to drive, and hard to live with. My car is slated to be done prior to the soring semester but we know how that goes. I have a 7 month old and in Hawai'i for a month.

Joker_andthe_thief

kk sooo you guys are saying that if a $6500 all in swapped rx-8 tears your *** off down the freeway, you can go to your friends and say you won by default because he cant pass emission control?

lol.

logalinipoo

Lol i could have killed untold people because i half assed my car and don't give a ****. Real funny.


If you have all the extra money to pay for fake inspections than why don't you spend it on your car running right in the first place?

logalinipoo

Lsrex, why would someone swap a working 351w to a ls1 in a rx8. Oh yeah it probably was not working.

Chrishoky

iTrader: (9)

This thread is hilarious. People are simply amazing... Im glad I live far away from these guys!

LSXREX

No thats is stephens car. While it isnt a SEMA car it is technically considered finished. It isnt fully optioned but youre kidding yourself if you think everything can be retained. Some systems sre just too difficult and unnecessary to retain. I wont have traction control and i will have other lights on but they will be taken care of. I would LOVE to see what your big talkers have swapped. It is a very diffucult task to fit a motor this size into an RX8. This csr honestly isnt even my first choice. But i had a clean LS1 setup with a T56 and the RX8 was just too good to pass up. Maybe you guys should just loosen up on your requirements or lead by example. My thread shows the progress of my build and after my vacation im gonna hit it hard.

LSXREX

I cant speak for that guy. His "crafsmanship" sickens me but who the hell cares. Some people are fu ction over form and some people think that taping a motor to a car and calling it complete. And another thing. What makes you think you cant buy lsx swap parts "off the shelf?" Hinson makes a terrific kit and even Stephens kit is adequate and off the shelf. Im using all Hinson stuff and its excellent quality. There are some things i would have done better but you cant beat it for the money.

9krpmrx8

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I have done multiple swaps, been doing them since the late 90's in Hondas and have owned Civics faster than the only REW swapped and single turboed RX-8 that has posted 1/4 mile times here. No LS swap guys have posted anything aside from the occasional burn out so all the talk of HP from them means jack **** really. I also grew up helping my father rebuilding everything from Firebirds to Impala's and have owned everything modified from a Turbo Z to a swapped CRX on nitrous so I can appreciate anything car related. I have no issues with a swap but as I said before 95% of the swap talkers here are just that, all talk and big expectations that rarely work out. This why we have yet to see more than one or two mostly completed LS swaps (the turbo LS is my personal fav just from a hooning standpoint). But it's not rocket science to do one, it's just that this scene just doesn't have guys with the skills, money, and motivation to do it right.

Obviously opinions vary. Personally I think the REW is a step backwards and I think the LS ruins what makes the car great. But that is just my opinion and maybe getting that LS powered R3 or Dannobre's car on the track would change my opinion of that. I am sure, as these REW swaps are popping up everywhere the RX-8 scene will likely improve as a result. I know personally I plan to see what the Renny can really do and if I don't see significant gains, then I will swap as well, just not an LS or an REW. Either way, finish your car and then show us, my bet is that it will end up a clusterfuck in my eyes. I do have faith in the guy doing the V8 roadster kit, he seems to have good attention to detail.

As for fittings, spending 2k is easy for a car like Dannobre's, I have spent close to that, quality fittings are expensive. And hydraulic store fittings are even more unless you are using no name ****. One quality Parker -10 90 degree fitting can cost $30.00 easy. My local Parker supplier knows me by name.

Joker_andthe_thief

Owe, owe, owe lol I have never put people in danger, I know my limits I know what's safe I know how to handle a machine that's clinging to life, I get fake emmisions and safeties for convenience, also my builds are solid and tidey I've been exagerating the no f*cks given but I work with what I got tools skill and ingenuity. I buy critical parts and fab what I need ive built several cars mazda6 complete OEM swap no cel's passed obd2 smog and did my own safety, traded that for an e46 then traded that for the 240sx bossted it with an eBay kit upgraded the bov waste gate and oil feed line,, then sold it and bought the Rx8 aslo swapped my brothers civic from single cam to b18c1 gsr mounts comp, harness shifter linkage exhaust and ctr trans I'll post up pics I'm just saying you can do it cheaper

SiNfidelity

Maybe joker makes his own oil too! That'll keep the build in budget. Make ur own radiator and filters.

These people crapping on about cheap builds etc obvious aren't doin it right.

SiNfidelity

Like.

Yeh he just proved it with failed brakes story. Omg
He must be very skilled

yomomspimp06

qft

SiNfidelity

Let's not forget the thousands u gotta spend on tools n equipment n consumables to build a so called "cheap budget build""

LSXREX

I would love to show you the car in person and that way you can come on here and tell everyone you saw a fully functional "complete" RX8 LS1 swap in person. Based on what you said and how high you set your expectations with nothing to back it up i assume you are blowing smoke. I go to SAR all the time and would love to meet you there. Maybe even a trackdays once i get balacing and suspension dialed in. You made it personal with that clusterfuck comment. I intend to make you eat those words. I may not blast your *** down the track but i will show you a completed swap. I cant do anything about those canadians who like to use big words. Im in Austin. Not too far from ya.

Joker_andthe_thief

according to 9krpmrx8, Lsxrex your lsxRx-8 will never be "complete" until it has a completely stock drive train that makes no power and needs to be rebuilt every 110,000km but has no cel's then its "complete" oh and make sure you spend $30,000 or else your doing it "wrong"

LSXREX

Yeah he makes some big statements but has nothing other than "clean." I guess i shoupd go buy $3000 in fittings to make my build complete.

Joker_andthe_thief

I worked as an apprentice techout of highschool right up to my 4th year got bored started plumbing, got bored started doing large scale warehouse Reno's,, point is you need tools in your life, tools talk.

over the past 6 years iv'e invested around $7,000 in tools and equipment 4 boxes compressor, car hoist for my garage, welders arc and mig, tranny jack engine hoist, 3 jacks, 6 stands impact guns air ratchets ect most important "gear wrenches" can't get enough

never sell or give away tools!
thats what allows me to save so much on labour and fabrication

Joker_andthe_thief

hmmm those blue and red fittings are sexy tho but make sure to check with the dealer that they don't trip a CEL or your swap will be "incomplete"

LSXREX

My car has a bunch of blue/red fittings. Is mine complete? On another note this thread went to **** pretty fast. I juwt wanted to pipe my hatred of the rotor and love of the LSX. Somehow that turned into my swap being a clusterfuck incomplete swap by some guys who can only swap jean sizes at Sears. Ill respectfully bow out of this thread. On your own Joker. I should start another thread "who loves the view from the towtruck. I wouldnt know i have a piston motor." Makes me appreciate NoRotors.com so much more

logalinipoo

Just to clarify i never said anything about off the shelf lsx parts. Its not worth my time to argue about what people can and cant do. Youll prove it for me. But i do understand function over form. Keeping in mind that it takes some form for good function. Sure a swap can be complete but (for example) if you have to hold the throttle every time you stop or crank it up at every light thats not really complete. I can see both sides and haven't seen your vehicles so i cant say what you can or cant do.

Joker_andthe_thief

I remember the ride I took when my renny lost compression, do you remember where you were the first time? the second time maybe? @everybody,, don't know about you guys but I said never again. watch my build thread! PEACE