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05-16-2012, 06:26 PM
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Speaking of living at home. When I was 20 I moved back home. I offered to pay my dad rent while I was back home and looking for a job and then saving money to get an apartment. He basically gave me one of the best life lessons. He told me to keep the rent money and save it for the apartment. I was a bit confused and told him I wanted to pay my way. He said if you pay rent then that means you live here. You are just visiting. Save your money and get on with your life.
LOL...I thought it was a bit harsh at the time and it took many years to really appreciate what he meant.
LOL...I thought it was a bit harsh at the time and it took many years to really appreciate what he meant.
05-16-2012, 07:18 PM
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I appreciate you both for explaining why you both see no light at the end of the tunnel.
The honest, and simplest, answer is that I may be impatient. But I see living with my parents as an opportunity to take a full dive into this project and see what happens.
An LS1/lsx swap has been done 3/4 times, documented by three different people and 2 were posted on youtube. One in Europe and one somewhere here. The one here was done by kids in a backyard, and neither of them post on here (the unfortunate thing is the one Iceland 8 doesnt video the gauge cluster working or not).
I understand people second guessing me, but I've already got support from the right people in this community. If that doesnt give me encouragement to keep on pushing to do this, i dont know what does. Honestly I could quit posting and I could still talk to the people that have already let me know they would be more than obliged helping the shop figure out the problems that go with this swap.
To answer your corvette question, I dont want a corvette, ok? the rx8 is a one of a kind car that is discontinued. Not many people will ever end up doing this swap, but I damn sure know I am not the only one trying to start a build of this magnitude as well. Ive had this car for over 5 years now, the sentimental value has grown over the years and I was always happy driving her when she ran. Im not ready to just drop the car after spending a year at school trying to figure everything out.
Get over my financials and my own personal position, I found a shop that works for me and one that is just as eager as me to get our community over this dumb hump. How me and my shop works out everything is our own deal, I started it to show people what the plan is.
We all sat on Hinson for a long time to completely finish, and Im tired of waiting.
-Robert
The honest, and simplest, answer is that I may be impatient. But I see living with my parents as an opportunity to take a full dive into this project and see what happens.
An LS1/lsx swap has been done 3/4 times, documented by three different people and 2 were posted on youtube. One in Europe and one somewhere here. The one here was done by kids in a backyard, and neither of them post on here (the unfortunate thing is the one Iceland 8 doesnt video the gauge cluster working or not).
I understand people second guessing me, but I've already got support from the right people in this community. If that doesnt give me encouragement to keep on pushing to do this, i dont know what does. Honestly I could quit posting and I could still talk to the people that have already let me know they would be more than obliged helping the shop figure out the problems that go with this swap.
To answer your corvette question, I dont want a corvette, ok? the rx8 is a one of a kind car that is discontinued. Not many people will ever end up doing this swap, but I damn sure know I am not the only one trying to start a build of this magnitude as well. Ive had this car for over 5 years now, the sentimental value has grown over the years and I was always happy driving her when she ran. Im not ready to just drop the car after spending a year at school trying to figure everything out.
Get over my financials and my own personal position, I found a shop that works for me and one that is just as eager as me to get our community over this dumb hump. How me and my shop works out everything is our own deal, I started it to show people what the plan is.
We all sat on Hinson for a long time to completely finish, and Im tired of waiting.
-Robert
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05-17-2012, 06:20 AM
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Cool man, you should try contacting V8 Roadsters as well. They have great kits for all 3 generations of the Miata and they might be able to help as the NC platform is similar to the RX8 from what I understand.
My buddy used them for his MX5 swap and they told him that they plan on developing a kit for the RX8 when they slow down a bit and have time.
After driving an LS1 Miata all I can say is this swap would be awesome in an RX8.
My buddy used them for his MX5 swap and they told him that they plan on developing a kit for the RX8 when they slow down a bit and have time.
After driving an LS1 Miata all I can say is this swap would be awesome in an RX8.
05-17-2012, 08:06 AM
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there is a subframe etc for sale on e bay for $500. look at it.
I see no problem in doing what you are doing. You are you. Everyone is different. Live with your parents--so what--you have time.
My children are grown--but i have a favorite funny saying--"Yes I child proofed my home--but they keep getting back in!"
Actually --my oldest daughter is graduating college this december. We SUGGESTED that she move back in with us for a little while to save up for whatever she has given up to get through her education.
WHo says the oem cluster has to work? Just run abs.eps etc as it was through the oem pcm. Manage the engine with its on pcm, run a cable to the TB and just get an aftermarket dash. I wouldnt make electronics into such a big hurtle.
Heck you can even take the sensor off the RX8 TB and mate it to whatever TB you want--if that is a problem.
I see no problem in doing what you are doing. You are you. Everyone is different. Live with your parents--so what--you have time.
My children are grown--but i have a favorite funny saying--"Yes I child proofed my home--but they keep getting back in!"
Actually --my oldest daughter is graduating college this december. We SUGGESTED that she move back in with us for a little while to save up for whatever she has given up to get through her education.
WHo says the oem cluster has to work? Just run abs.eps etc as it was through the oem pcm. Manage the engine with its on pcm, run a cable to the TB and just get an aftermarket dash. I wouldnt make electronics into such a big hurtle.
Heck you can even take the sensor off the RX8 TB and mate it to whatever TB you want--if that is a problem.
05-17-2012, 09:45 AM
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Cool man, you should try contacting V8 Roadsters as well. They have great kits for all 3 generations of the Miata and they might be able to help as the NC platform is similar to the RX8 from what I understand.
My buddy used them for his MX5 swap and they told him that they plan on developing a kit for the RX8 when they slow down a bit and have time.
After driving an LS1 Miata all I can say is this swap would be awesome in an RX8.
My buddy used them for his MX5 swap and they told him that they plan on developing a kit for the RX8 when they slow down a bit and have time.
After driving an LS1 Miata all I can say is this swap would be awesome in an RX8.
05-17-2012, 10:07 AM
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there is a subframe etc for sale on e bay for $500. look at it.
I see no problem in doing what you are doing. You are you. Everyone is different. Live with your parents--so what--you have time.
My children are grown--but i have a favorite funny saying--"Yes I child proofed my home--but they keep getting back in!"
Actually --my oldest daughter is graduating college this december. We SUGGESTED that she move back in with us for a little while to save up for whatever she has given up to get through her education.
WHo says the oem cluster has to work? Just run abs.eps etc as it was through the oem pcm. Manage the engine with its on pcm, run a cable to the TB and just get an aftermarket dash. I wouldnt make electronics into such a big hurtle.
Heck you can even take the sensor off the RX8 TB and mate it to whatever TB you want--if that is a problem.
I see no problem in doing what you are doing. You are you. Everyone is different. Live with your parents--so what--you have time.
My children are grown--but i have a favorite funny saying--"Yes I child proofed my home--but they keep getting back in!"
Actually --my oldest daughter is graduating college this december. We SUGGESTED that she move back in with us for a little while to save up for whatever she has given up to get through her education.
WHo says the oem cluster has to work? Just run abs.eps etc as it was through the oem pcm. Manage the engine with its on pcm, run a cable to the TB and just get an aftermarket dash. I wouldnt make electronics into such a big hurtle.
Heck you can even take the sensor off the RX8 TB and mate it to whatever TB you want--if that is a problem.
Congrats to your daughter, as well. I never thought I would graduate college, but pushing myself to move to Oklahoma and force myself to understand that I was all-in (who wants loans with no degree? cant believe how many friends didnt finish...) I got it done.
One of the shops I talked to was talking about using a stand-alone ecu and re-doing the wiring. They were going to ship the ecu to some company, and, depending on what I still wanted (abs, tcs, etc) they would cut/add wiring based on what we wanted. Idk if that is anything like what my shop does, but I would assume most shops do it themselves or send it off as well.
ive seen a lot of people use the navigation screen on top of the dash as a place to put gauges, if worse comes to worse getting the original gauge cluster to work, as long as I can read my mph, we can at least put some gauges in there until we figure out a more permanent solution. And that's just if Hinson didn't figure out this part.
Remember guys, Im still not sure where Hinson got snagged on their project. My builder might, but honestly if he brought my car in after talking to them, I dont think he sees it as a problem.
Thank you, OD
-Robert
05-17-2012, 10:52 AM
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I don't want to start any fights but who cares wether he is spending his money wisely or wether he can afford it or not.
It's his car, his time, and his money. If he wants to spend his life savings on this project or if he needs to sell an organ or get three jobs, who the hell cares? It's not your money it's his.
I am just eager to see somebody do this swap and possibly get some sort of kit developed for it.
Good luck man.
It's his car, his time, and his money. If he wants to spend his life savings on this project or if he needs to sell an organ or get three jobs, who the hell cares? It's not your money it's his.
I am just eager to see somebody do this swap and possibly get some sort of kit developed for it.
Good luck man.
05-17-2012, 11:01 AM
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How can I really care about his personal finances I dont even know what he looks like 
I am simply stating this because he seems young and naive. Peers are a huge influence. You seem like you want him to be driven to debt so you can see pics of a ls swap? just lookin out is all
I am simply stating this because he seems young and naive. Peers are a huge influence. You seem like you want him to be driven to debt so you can see pics of a ls swap? just lookin out is all
05-17-2012, 11:34 AM
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Not at all, but chances are he's going to do it regardless of anyones financial advice.
Hell, most of us are stupid with the amount of money we spend on modifying our cars as they're depreciating assets and we'll probably never even see half of the money we've spent when the time comes to sell the car.
BUT....it is fun.
Hell, most of us are stupid with the amount of money we spend on modifying our cars as they're depreciating assets and we'll probably never even see half of the money we've spent when the time comes to sell the car.
BUT....it is fun.
05-17-2012, 12:14 PM
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Not at all, but chances are he's going to do it regardless of anyones financial advice.
Hell, most of us are stupid with the amount of money we spend on modifying our cars as they're depreciating assets and we'll probably never even see half of the money we've spent when the time comes to sell the car.
BUT....it is fun.
Hell, most of us are stupid with the amount of money we spend on modifying our cars as they're depreciating assets and we'll probably never even see half of the money we've spent when the time comes to sell the car.
BUT....it is fun.
In the end he is selling all the parts on the forums/ebay to try to recover a fraction of the money he has into it. I have seen this story a hundred times on other car forums.
I hope he proves me wrong and ends up with an amazing LS2 rx8.....but I highly doubt it.
05-17-2012, 01:35 PM
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well there was the blue one with the 383 stroker. lol
05-17-2012, 01:41 PM
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hence the lol
05-17-2012, 01:47 PM
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You guys honestly don't put optimism in anyone that has a dream, and it is very saddening. But... I also agree that you're looking from a real-world standpoint.
I had always expected people to respond like this, which is good. I want you guys to tell me why you think it is not going to work out, I understand a little bit more every time why people have no faith. I talked to the shop this afternoon and told them how some of you are reacting along with the reasons you believe this build wont happen. I believe at least their front-office man plans to take a good look at this thread as soon as today, if he hasnt already
the only thing that has happened as of now is the actual car being sent to the shop. My only cost at the moment has been towing the car. My ability to pay to move my car to the shop should at least show some of you guys i'm not eating ramen while I build this car, Im not broke. I have a career that begins in less than a week, and me and my shop are in the draw-up phase of the build.
Thank you Mawnee... I guess for being blunt.
But it really is so sad how all some of you guys can do is look at a young kid and pretty much say "you cant do it." Go try to say that to Zuckerberg now, going to his investor meetings in his pajamas.
-Robert
I had always expected people to respond like this, which is good. I want you guys to tell me why you think it is not going to work out, I understand a little bit more every time why people have no faith. I talked to the shop this afternoon and told them how some of you are reacting along with the reasons you believe this build wont happen. I believe at least their front-office man plans to take a good look at this thread as soon as today, if he hasnt already
the only thing that has happened as of now is the actual car being sent to the shop. My only cost at the moment has been towing the car. My ability to pay to move my car to the shop should at least show some of you guys i'm not eating ramen while I build this car, Im not broke. I have a career that begins in less than a week, and me and my shop are in the draw-up phase of the build.
Thank you Mawnee... I guess for being blunt.
But it really is so sad how all some of you guys can do is look at a young kid and pretty much say "you cant do it." Go try to say that to Zuckerberg now, going to his investor meetings in his pajamas.
-Robert
05-17-2012, 01:51 PM
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