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Old 11-08-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboEight
Hey dan, Is this the rebuild kit to use to rebuild the stock turbo in the greddy kit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsu...Q5fAccessories
yes. there are gonna be some c-clips and o-rings that you will not end up using. the kit is used for both TD05 and TD06 turbos. the GReddy T618Z is just a modified TD06 turbo. if you need help or any kind of question, just PM me. i don't wanna thread jack JCab's post.
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Originally Posted by J.Cab
The car is up and running. It's running the base Ultimate map right which is like 5 psi. The car definitely pulls a little, didnt really want to get on it to much with it not being fully tuned. Tomorrow I will have the car tuned, If you want to see it today or tomorrow I will be in Seattle. Let me know.
Did you get tuned?
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Did you get tuned?
The O2 Sensor is bad. Tomorrow I am looking to get that fixed. Right now the AFR's are going really lean, at least according to the AP. So once that is fixed then I will get with Chris again, and try to get some stuff sorted.
Old 11-11-2008, 01:32 PM
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Should get a handle on that man it's like every day I get an email on this thread and it's not a "it's done at last" getting me kinda amped on drama...
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Smile j.Cab

Waiting for your post .I am curious to how much this costs with Installation? I live In Gig Harbor and might be buying a used RX-8 or a new 2008 If i cannott make my deal on the 2009 R3 .If I get the 09 I am just going to put a Borla exhaust on it and No turbo but otherwise I am going Turbo Ize it!! The Greedy looks to be the Best Value for the $$.Will be checking for your results post good luck.Also please let me know if you do not mind too much if you and AngryBumblebee get a chance to hook up and check out your car .I would very much like to see it as well ..You guys can drive my Cayman if you want it has a Remus Exhaust and lots of other performance mods.Just let me know..Thanks ..
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Trust me guys, as soon as it is done I will post some numbers/videos. I can't begin to tell how much this sucks with buying a turbo kit and the other components then for it not run properly. For some reason when I do go into I get 14.7 AFRs at idle then in boost it goes to 20.3 which is freakin scary lean. I have not figured out as to why this does it. I am running the Greddy Ultimate base map but something obviously is not right. I switched some wires for the O2 Sensor and it works fine. The only CEL I am getting is RKE P0039 Meaning: Turbo/Super Charger Bypass Valve Control Circuit Range/Performance. So I going to stay out of boost. But right now my main concern is why is this CEL coming up, and does it have anything to do with causing my car to run that lean. It really weird because I am going to through fuel like crazy my tail pipes are burnt black, but the AP shows the AFRs going to 20.3. Not to mention my car will start "bucking" if I slowly accelerate above 5k. Also the car will die when I put it in neutral while coming to a stop. Can someone begin to point me in the right direction please??? I have checked the coils today with a timing light, etc everything else was good.

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try disconnecting the EMU and just using the stock ECU to run it. see if that changes the AFR.

btw...i hate EMU.
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Originally Posted by Im_DANomite
try disconnecting the EMU and just using the stock ECU to run it. see if that changes the AFR.

btw...i hate EMU.
Already tried that still 20.3 AFRs. I am getting ready to post a datalog of what I am getting.
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i had afr numbers in that range when i had my emanage base map minus tunning so i ditched it before tunning the emanage
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Originally Posted by gregs
i had afr numbers in that range when i had my emanage base map minus tunning so i ditched it before tunning the emanage
so are you saying that I should ditch the base map? Then have it tuned with a different map?
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Sorry to hear this about something that should be putting a big smile on your face instead of Greif ..hope to hear a positive ending here soon please keep us posted .My search of owning the new R3 is growing dim so i feel your pain.
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Originally Posted by Jaggerbomb
Sorry to hear this about something that should be putting a big smile on your face instead of Greif ..hope to hear a positive ending here soon please keep us posted .My search of owning the new R3 is growing dim so i feel your pain.
When I get it up and running I will let you know when I head down towards Seattle, and you can check out the car. Hopefully sooner than later....
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plug in a dashhawk and see if you get the same Afr readings
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Originally Posted by Kane
plug in a dashhawk and see if you get the same Afr readings
I was still able to datalog some, right now I am trying to see if I can graph it.

AFRs RPMs

14.73 5918

14.73 5770

14.73 5942

14.73 6371

15.06 6584

17.17 6858

19.69 7074

20.26 7116

20.26 6882

20.26 6405

17.67 6416

15.59 6352

14.73 6321

14.74 6092

14.73 5823

14.73 5502

14.73 5251

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wow - something is amiss all right - better to stay out of boost till you know what is happening .
You should really ditch the EMU - seriously . I think mazda maniac is one of the few people i've heard of that managed to get it running right - have you implemented his fixes ?
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Originally Posted by Brettus
wow - something is amiss all right - better to stay out of boost till you know what is happening .
You should really ditch the EMU - seriously . I think mazda maniac is one of the few people i've heard of that managed to get it running right - have you implemented his fixes ?
I am really gonna consider ordering up a O2 Sensor. For the simple fact that I hope its the problem for the spike in the AFRs. My plan is to ditch the Ultimate and use the AP but its difficult to get maps from MM. So I really have no choice at the present time. And no I have done the Greddy fixes. Do you think it would change the problem I am having? Also above 5k my car starts to buck while just normal acceleration not even during boost.
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the fact that you get 14.7 at idle appears to rule out the o2 sensor . It really looks like the EMU is your problem .
I don't know what the fixes are - I just read somewhere where he did a lot of changes to it . Could have been for a larger turbo . Dont know.
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14.7 at idle on startup is not right should be a lot richer until fully warmed up
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Originally Posted by Kane
14.7 at idle on startup is not right should be a lot richer until fully warmed up
Any suggestions Kane, I am really confused and do not know what to do next. If I unplug the Ultimate like Chris and I did this weekend, for some reason it still will show the same AFRs.
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wait a min. how are you using the AP with the EMU?? i'm confused.
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Originally Posted by Im_DANomite
wait a min. how are you using the AP with the EMU?? i'm confused.
I am just using the AP to read the AFRs. From what I understood the map being sent from MM was just not a tuned map but rather just a base map so you could get the readings.
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Either way - the EMU won't do anything in closed loop so no biggie there.

With the same AFR's and the same issue with / and without the EMU - and the fact that you KNOW your AFR readings are wrong from the AP; you can either troubleshoot the AP by using a Dashhawk ODBII reader on YOUR car or the AP on another car. Once you have proven the AP works - your next issue is your O2 sensors.

Time to eliminate variables instead of shooting in the dark.
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I really hope this is a newb statement, but have you upgraded spark plugs in this huge upgrade? I know from when I had my Mustang GT and I turbo'ed it, when I was running it for the first few weeks I had to adjust to colder and hotter plugs to match it up to the new style of boost. The stock stuff doesn't hold **** for spark in a boost vaccuum.
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Originally Posted by ravenforbidden
I really hope this is a newb statement, but have you upgraded spark plugs in this huge upgrade? I know from when I had my Mustang GT and I turbo'ed it, when I was running it for the first few weeks I had to adjust to colder and hotter plugs to match it up to the new style of boost. The stock stuff doesn't hold **** for spark in a boost vaccuum.
Yes I am using Platinum NGK Trailing Spark Plugs...I am not sure that would cause the AFRs to run that lean though would it? Maybe I am wrong. But yes I did upgrade.

so turns out the shop didnt upgrade my spark plugs like they were supposed to. Is this my problem possibly....I just called and they are sitting over there still at the shop.

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i really think its your ultimate, i had very simalar afr's at wot, once i got my cobb ap i removed the ultimate and just used the ap and my afr's changed dramatically, everyone is right about not going into boost at those levels that is really scary i was lucky myself i didnt damaged anything...if you cant wait for maps on the ap you can get your emanage tuned to lower your afr's as well i just didnt think it was worth investing the money into the ultimate at the time


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