dondo

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nice man.

Anijo

Went to Bellevue Auto Rebuild. Surprising amount of damage considering how little it looks like cosmetically. The cost is all in labor because the damage is in the "dog foot" of the rear quarter panel which is a hard area to reach, they're going to have to remove the suicide door and the trunk apparently.

dondo

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whats the estimate? and is the other guy's insurance paying? maybe you can finally clean up those scratches. lol.

makristal

Yeah, if it's their insurance paying for it, then who cars how much its going to cost them.

rotomaven

has anyone went to one of the pgp lapping days in kent? 100 bucks for all day seems pretty reasonable, plus that truck looks like a dream for the 8.

dondo

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yeah there are some threads about it in the nw section

rotomaven

ya there are but they all go the same way. (going to this, whos goin? and then people ask hopw it went and then we never hear actually how they liked the track and if its worth the money)

FoxeyL8y

https://www.rx8club.com/nw-rx-8-forum-33/pgp-209050/

RawrX8

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Here is my take on it in the rx8. Was fun but our gear ratio to the track layout is not friendly. You never really allow secondaries to open on the back half. Dondo's supercharger setup will really excel out there.

Bignatex

Oh shot brad is alive

FoxeyL8y

oh shot indeed....

wait what?

TANKERG

Don't be scared off by RawrX8's comments. The gears might not be perfect, but he was able to keep up with the fastest on the track.

rotomaven

i would imagine that our wide rpm range would somewhat compensate for the lack in gearing?

Anijo

The issue is you're spending a lot more time in the bottom of 2nd instead of the top of 1st right? I've run into this on some AutoX courses as well.

Rev matching into 1st at those speeds is pretty hard because you scrub speed pretty fast if you're off the throttle for even a moment in 1st above 7k RPM. Get the revs wrong on a down-shift and you're going to fly into your steering wheel and/or lock up the rears. Then once you're in 1st, you'll only be there for a moment because 7krpm to 9krpm in 1st takes all of a second if that at WOT. On AutoX courses it was almost never worth it to shift down to 1st, I can't imagine this being much different.

I blame the problem on 0-60 times. In the last 10-15 years, automakers/consumers have become obsessed with 0-60 times, which lead to a lot of modern cars having longer 1st and 2nd gears so you only have to shift once for 0-60.

Anijo

I get what he's saying though. 2nd gear is really long on our cars, so if you're going 30-40mph you're in this annoying zone where 2nd gear is down on power but 1st is nearing or at the rev limiter. In AutoX it was never worth it to shift down to 1st because that's by far the hardest shift to make in our cars. 3rd-2nd, 4th-3rd, 5th-4th are all relatively easy because the ratios are closer, but 1st to 2nd is a big jump and it's pretty easy to get wrong.

Ratios:

First
3.760
Second
2.269
Third
1.645
Fourth
1.257
Fifth
1.000
Sixth
0.843

If you've never tried to down-shift into 1st at speed, find an empty parking lot some time and give it a go. It's honestly really hard.

That said, Pacific GP still looks like a blast. I think Brad's comment is more that in order to be competitive against other cars, you're going to be back and forth into 1st which is just plain hard, so realistically you need something (hehe, boost!) to add power to the bottom end of 2nd.

RawrX8

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Well you can credit that to my hmm interesting driving "style".

I tried 1 session down shifting into 1st gear to keep the RPM within power range but you would drop than have to switch to 2nd. Pretty much you stay in 2nd gear like autocrossing and focus on braking points, cornering entering/exit speeds and have fun. Clip 3rd gear during the straight away.

Go out and experience the track its a blast. Ill be out there to play again with something different.

dondo

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or just play against other rx8s!

FazdaRX_8

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are you getting rid of the rx8?

FazdaRX_8

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I really wish I was closer to the seattle area to meet you folks. you guys planning any meets, or going to any of the NWbuilt.com meets?

ps I am in spokane/coeurdalene area

makristal

Yeah, we're going to the one on Saturday +dyno day in the mornings!

makristal

https://www.rx8club.com/nw-rx-8-forum-33/its-bit-nippy-out-lets-have-meat-210222/

FazdaRX_8

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which Saturday?

is that the MM dyno day?

makristal

Its this upcoming, I don't think its an MM day...We had that like a month ago, or something close to that. I'm not quite sure what's going on with this one, but, Dondo, Nemesis, PDX are going up on the Dyno to show off their sweet numbers

RawrX8

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Yeah prob, but I have to always chase after the big dogs and beat them. This year if I run some hooisers im pretty sure ill catch/beat Eric.

No.

pdxhak

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Just dyno pulls. No tuning.