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Old 02-04-2010 | 12:50 AM
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STX again. It's roughly the same as CSP but without the R-Comps and you still need a cat. I was just poking through the rules, and your... side skirts might technically violate the letter of the rules but not the intent. Not sure how that would play out. You... might be in SM... which is even smaller but harder to compete in.
Old 02-04-2010 | 01:39 AM
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ok cool. are you going to all events this year?
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Old 02-04-2010 | 08:13 AM
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^ i'm definitely doing that. probs have to do the instructor and all the firs though, huh?

is there any way to waive that part?

Yep you have to do the instructor, but not the school (as long as you can prove you ran with Alfa) I really liked my instructor a lot, if you can request him I'd see if Kevin Doyle is available. Here he is in a Pro 3 race

Check it out at 00:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cLVuw4cHjA
Old 02-04-2010 | 03:38 PM
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Old 02-05-2010 | 01:15 AM
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Registration is open for the Practice Day on the 14th!
Old 02-06-2010 | 10:48 PM
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Nice vid Scott. I think that exact string of words has come out of my mouth while driving before
Old 02-07-2010 | 04:51 AM
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me too haha I've done that in my truck when a car pulled in front of me on the highway when I was doing 70 and they were doing 25. Luckily they pulled out of the way just in time, because I kept the wheel straight.
Old 02-07-2010 | 08:33 PM
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so i was thinking of running track pads this season since i have to swap wheels anyway. my only question is how do i get them off afterwards?? wont they be burning hot? and i'd like to get them out when i take the track wheels off so i dont have to do it all over again later.. ideas?
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Pose the question in the racing section, I'm sure some one else has tried that before.
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Originally Posted by Anijo
Pose the question in the racing section, I'm sure some one else has tried that before.
you dont think the nw homies can help?
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you dont think the nw homies can help?
I'll help!! Or at least give my opinion.

I bet they cool down faster than you think. Especially with a cool down lap and maybe a little brake-free drive down the road and back. I was really surprised how fast they cool down if the car is moving. Now, cool enough to get your hands in there remove the pads i dont know for sure -- they're definitely not going to be cold.

You'll need some track pads with those new tires for sure or you'll burn through your pads super fast since you've got so much more grip. There are some pads out there that should be able to get you home without swapping them but like you said you'd rather swap them with the track wheels.

Would you autox on the pads you have now? Dont you have Mazdaspeed pads or something? I doubt you'd overheat them in a normal autox. I have Racing Brake ET500 which i think are good up to 900-1000 degrees and i've only faded them once at an autox and that was at the end of that crazy 30+ run practice when we were hot-lapping like crazy people Just my thoughts. I couldn't imagine having street, autox and track pads.

Tracking is a different story. Brake pads get punished on the track and a dedicated set would be a worthwhile investment. I'm in the same boat. I want to run R-comps this summer (or whenever the Bridgestones on the RPF1s kick the bucket) but i'm going to need some track pads to take advantage of the new found grip and hold up to the punishment. I'm leaning towards Carbotechs (XP10 in the front XP8 in the rear is a popular combo) or Hawk somethings. I can't pin down which Hawk compound would be best yet. I want to do some temp testing to get a better idea what pads would work best. I might try a different tier Racing Brake compound too. I dont know.

Let me know what you're thinking. We have similarly set-up cars and similar driving styles (different tracks now though ) so it'd be interesting to see what your ideas are.
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Originally Posted by JantzenRX-8
I'll help!! Or at least give my opinion.

I bet they cool down faster than you think. Especially with a cool down lap and maybe a little brake-free drive down the road and back. I was really surprised how fast they cool down if the car is moving. Now, cool enough to get your hands in there remove the pads i dont know for sure -- they're definitely not going to be cold.
Remember after those practice days though, you couldn't even touch the calipers or the pads after the event. i seem to remember yours melting away or something and causing an accident?

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You'll need some track pads with those new tires for sure or you'll burn through your pads super fast since you've got so much more grip. There are some pads out there that should be able to get you home without swapping them but like you said you'd rather swap them with the track wheels.
Right, if i was on street tires i'd have no problem driving home and letting them cool sufficiently but i'd really rather pull them at the track after i finished running and can pull the rcomps at the time time.

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Would you autox on the pads you have now? Dont you have Mazdaspeed pads or something? I doubt you'd overheat them in a normal autox. I have Racing Brake ET500 which i think are good up to 900-1000 degrees and i've only faded them once at an autox and that was at the end of that crazy 30+ run practice when we were hot-lapping like crazy people Just my thoughts. I couldn't imagine having street, autox and track pads.
yes, i do autox and track on the pads i have now. they're mazdaspeed and i haven't ever overheated them. i also bought hawk ceramics for my next set of street pads.

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Tracking is a different story. Brake pads get punished on the track and a dedicated set would be a worthwhile investment. I'm in the same boat. I want to run R-comps this summer (or whenever the Bridgestones on the RPF1s kick the bucket) but i'm going to need some track pads to take advantage of the new found grip and hold up to the punishment. I'm leaning towards Carbotechs (XP10 in the front XP8 in the rear is a popular combo) or Hawk somethings. I can't pin down which Hawk compound would be best yet. I want to do some temp testing to get a better idea what pads would work best. I might try a different tier Racing Brake compound too. I dont know.
i was looking at the hawk ht-10 for track pads. they have great reviews and temp range is 300-1600. i dont mind swapping them in for events if i have enough time beforehand and can get them out afterwards. i do need to practice making the swap quickly though.. i suppose with all these changes i'll get pretty good at it.

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Let me know what you're thinking. We have similarly set-up cars and similar driving styles (different tracks now though ) so it'd be interesting to see what your ideas are.
yeah i'm thinking swap for track and i'm on the fence for autox. i'm going to try the new tires on autox this weekend and see how they do. if i like it i may think about using the mazdaspeed for autox, ht-10 for track, and ceramic for dd. hahaha, yes that sounds ridiculous..
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Posing this in here first, then I might start a thread on it (I think Brad brought this up once...)

How do you guys feel about drag racing? Specifically, the Car Club Challenge, which starts up again in May. Sounds like a fun way to collectively kill our transmissions

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What is the Car Club Challenge?

It is bracket racing at Bremerton and Pacific Raceways. You form a team and your team performance in the brackets dictates team points and the team with the most points wins for the year. There are also driver awards.

What is bracket racing?

Bracket racing is drag racing, and think of it has having a handicapped system. You do a “dial-in”, which is what you predict you can run the quarter mile in. So let’s say I was in my car, my dial-in would be 12.95. The object is to come in as close to your dial-in without going faster. If you go faster, you’re disqualified, my car can run low 13.0x, so a 12.95 dial-in is “safe,” as it is very unlikely I will run faster than 12.99. The other factor is your reaction time, how fast you get off the line after the light turns green. Your reaction time and the difference between what your run and your dial-in are added together, he or she who has the lowest combined number wins. That is it in a very tight nutshell, it is about being consistent, it isn’t about raw speed.
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Nick... shun
hey what about replying to mine!!
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If you're thinking about HT-10's why not DTC-60 or DTC-70? About the same operating temp floor but with higher operating temps and a higher coefficient of friction. Plus you could stagger them, 70's in the front 60's in the back.

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hey what about replying to mine!!
Nick needed to be shunned ASAP
Old 02-08-2010 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JantzenRX-8
If you're thinking about HT-10's why not DTC-60 or DTC-70? About the same operating temp floor but with higher operating temps and a higher coefficient of friction. Plus you could stagger them, 70's in the front 60's in the back.

the HT-10 claims to have a smooth initial bite which seems like it'd be better when decelerating from high speeds, less likely to upset the car. i dont know anyone who's run the DTC 60 or 70 though so who knows

maybe i just need to buy some of both and try them.
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Yeah, who knows. Might want to Ask Brian at Good-Win Racing. I know he carries all these types of pads and usually has a good grasp on the characteristics of each compound on the RX8. You might want to send him an email, explain how you car is set up and describe the braking zones at Pacific. He'll probably give you a good idea what you need.
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Originally Posted by JantzenRX-8
Yeah, who knows. Might want to Ask Brian at Good-Win Racing. I know he carries all these types of pads and usually has a good grasp on the characteristics of each compound on the RX8. You might want to send him an email, explain how you car is set up and describe the braking zones at Pacific. He'll probably give you a good idea what you need.
sounds like you've done it already! care to share?
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Nick needed to be shunned ASAP
lol... I dunno, the idea of competing as a team is kind of appealing (though drag racing is meh, I can't really see ever going by myself to do it, unlike AutoX where I was usually the only one from the Seattle crew )
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Originally Posted by dondo
sounds like you've done it already! care to share?
I have not asked him about brake pads but i have about other stuff. He'll usually get back to you within a day. I'm not going to email about this though. I feel bad, i've asked him for info twice before and didn't end up buying anything. I think the next time i ask for his opinion i have to buy.

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lol... I dunno, the idea of competing as a team is kind of appealing (though drag racing is meh, I can't really see ever going by myself to do it, unlike AutoX where I was usually the only one from the Seattle crew )
You just need an autocross. You're going through withdrawals.
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Can I register/pay membership on Sunday at Bremerton or is there a place I can register/pay online?
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Can I register/pay membership on Sunday at Bremerton or is there a place I can register/pay online?
http://autocrossscorekeeper.com/


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