Pettit Racing’s Forced Induction System
01-21-2008, 04:54 PM
#1076
I know it is a band aid but until the learning process has regurgitated actual results a little more definite:
i plan on --
1- water meth injection --for detonation purposes only---not to be able to tune on the edge a further
2- rev cut at 8K
3- pulling the room fuse every day--trims add up.
oldscdragger
i plan on --
1- water meth injection --for detonation purposes only---not to be able to tune on the edge a further
2- rev cut at 8K
3- pulling the room fuse every day--trims add up.
oldscdragger
01-21-2008, 07:23 PM
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Yeah, Charles, I agree to a point; however, you and I both know that more power=more heat=more stress=more breakage. For myself, 300 on the ground (or even 20HP on either side of it) is a lot to handle on public roads with the DSC off in the tight stuff I like to unspool in. I also know the Renesis has it's limits based on apex seal and eccentric shaft bearing life. However: I've found that not breaking my toys so as to be able to enjoy them more to be greatly more rewarding than running them to the ragged engine and then loosing them to a costly rebuild.
To me it really does not matter if my rotary engine is FI (Turbo or SC), NA or nitrous. It is all about enjoying what I like and at the same time enjoying it for a long time. I enjoy driving my 13B Bridge Port R100 as much as I like driving my RX8 SC. Two different animals but the same heart, a Rotary engine. The reason for choosing to SC my RX8 instead of Turbo had to do with several factors. Installation simplicity (I like to do my own work), less expensive than a turbo, 300 whp ultimate goal and being able to talk strait to the manufacturer and not to a “don’t know much about rotaries but I talk like I do” sales representative.
The bottom line. I love rotary powered vehicles since I was kid (born and raise in Puerto Rico home of the most powerful/fastest rotaries and 4 cylinder imports in the world). Love the sound, the uniqueness, the power you can squeeze out of a 12A/13B/20B/26B and the nauseating gases of a catless exhaust rotary amongst other things. I love to share my very limited knowledge with other rotary enthusiast and shame on those who benefit otherwise. I hope that Mazda does not stop making/importing rotaries like they did with the RX7 so many generations to come can experience it like I did.
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Word of mouth, both positive and negative, is a powerful component in building a successful business. If you stand 100% behind your product, then don’t worry about your competitors and particularly don’t take advantage of your customers. The internet is a powerful way to disseminate both the positive and mostly the negative.
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01-21-2008, 08:07 PM
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Word of mouth, both positive and negative, is a powerful component in building a successful business. If you stand 100% behind your product, then don’t worry about your competitors and particularly don’t take advantage of your customers. The internet is a powerful way to disseminate both the positive and mostly the negative.
Word of mouth, both positive and negative, is a powerful component in building a successful business. If you stand 100% behind your product, then don’t worry about your competitors and particularly don’t take advantage of your customers. The internet is a powerful way to disseminate both the positive and mostly the negative.
Juan, why did you feel this needed to be said?[/QUOTE]
They know who they are and I hope they get their act strait. Not for me (I have nothing to gain or loose) only speak from experience. My father used to own a huge private automobile repair business (10 mechanics, 7 lifts, mostly by appointment only due to customer volume) but when money became more important than customer service, business went down hill and bankruptcy became inevitable.
01-22-2008, 03:41 PM
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A lot of this banter is probably a result of two things: 1) the impersonality of intenet communications that removes immediacy of contact and nonverbal cues from messages and 2) perspective. Jeff, Charles, and others have lived and breathed this motor for quite a while, from what I gather. The Renesis is new to me, but tuning and motors are not. Shinka admittedly will do anything for carbon fiber 
Morkus, uh, well, is Morkus
. This forum is dominated by a few very expert people, a few of which come across in reasonable evaluation as ******. Don't be surprised by pushback from noobs who don't appreciate being bitchslapped just because they're noobs. Screw that. If some people get off on the powertrip of banging around newcomers, well, here's your KY; doesn't do much to maintain the purpose of the thread, IMHO. None of this would be around if some very expert people at Pettit hadn't put their money and reputation into a fantastic product. Mazsport should take a lesson
Here's to you Cam and Moon
On the other hand, I don't mind wading into an internet hornet's nest to get the info I need. This place is a wealth of info, and Jeff is a goldmine, once you get past the goatee and the tiny dog.
And before you get all worked up, I have tiny dogs, too.
But no goatee
Morkus, uh, well, is Morkus . This forum is dominated by a few very expert people, a few of which come across in reasonable evaluation as ******. Don't be surprised by pushback from noobs who don't appreciate being bitchslapped just because they're noobs. Screw that. If some people get off on the powertrip of banging around newcomers, well, here's your KY; doesn't do much to maintain the purpose of the thread, IMHO. None of this would be around if some very expert people at Pettit hadn't put their money and reputation into a fantastic product. Mazsport should take a lesson Here's to you Cam and Moon On the other hand, I don't mind wading into an internet hornet's nest to get the info I need. This place is a wealth of info, and Jeff is a goldmine, once you get past the goatee and the tiny dog.
And before you get all worked up, I have tiny dogs, too.
But no goatee
01-22-2008, 04:03 PM
#1082
That's one area that I have been in much disagreement with MM on; personal preference. My belief is that the Big Joke our creator played on us(besides the one about men and women having difficulties with getting along
) was in having several different solutions to a perceived problem or, perhaps, the idea that a problem may or may not exist at all in the first place. I have discovered that the best I can do is pass along what I have learned, and why/how, and allow others to make their own minds up in the process.
The idea here is to understand what the engineering intentions were in the first place with any given product/item and deciding for ourselves how far we want to push the headroom. That's one area where you and MM agree; he doesn't like to push limits as much as I am willing, despite how it may look with wrecked engines and all, so he tends to suggest parts upgrades while I take it more on a case-by-case basis. Plus, if there is a way to incrementalize the upgrade process to avoid a massive outlay of cash, I'll devise a scheme like that for others.
) was in having several different solutions to a perceived problem or, perhaps, the idea that a problem may or may not exist at all in the first place. I have discovered that the best I can do is pass along what I have learned, and why/how, and allow others to make their own minds up in the process.The idea here is to understand what the engineering intentions were in the first place with any given product/item and deciding for ourselves how far we want to push the headroom. That's one area where you and MM agree; he doesn't like to push limits as much as I am willing, despite how it may look with wrecked engines and all, so he tends to suggest parts upgrades while I take it more on a case-by-case basis. Plus, if there is a way to incrementalize the upgrade process to avoid a massive outlay of cash, I'll devise a scheme like that for others.
It's like a threesome, or at least something along the lines of Jeff's avatars.
01-22-2008, 04:26 PM
#1083
Mine's gone, too. Got bored with it.
BTW - Its a "soul patch", apparently. Not a goatee. Someone made that distinction for me around here in one thread or another.
For me, it just started out as one less place to shave.
At my age, those places are starting to become scarce.
BTW - Its a "soul patch", apparently. Not a goatee. Someone made that distinction for me around here in one thread or another.
For me, it just started out as one less place to shave.
At my age, those places are starting to become scarce.
01-22-2008, 04:42 PM
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I think that, in general, if people around here stopped focusing on second-guessing people's intentions, tone and "attitude" and just payed attention to the data, there would be a lot less e-thugery.
I realize, of course, that e-thugery is all that some people have, so that might be asking a lot of a few.
I realize, of course, that e-thugery is all that some people have, so that might be asking a lot of a few.
01-22-2008, 07:09 PM
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Whenever I read things like this I get nervous 'cuz back in my "good 'ole daze" I used to not be able to remember things I said and, inevitably, ended up pissing somebody off. I no longer have those problems but I still revert back to that nervous reaction every now and then. Thanks for the explanation. I now know it wasn't directed at me because I haven't collected a dime in profit from anyone yet!
The irony in what you say about profits versus customer service is that by taking care of people, the money takes care of itself. That's why faith in the future is so important.
The irony in what you say about profits versus customer service is that by taking care of people, the money takes care of itself. That's why faith in the future is so important.
01-22-2008, 09:02 PM
#1091
I think that, in general, if people around here stopped focusing on second-guessing people's intentions, tone and "attitude" and just payed attention to the data, there would be a lot less e-thugery.
I realize, of course, that e-thugery is all that some people have, so that might be asking a lot of a few.
I realize, of course, that e-thugery is all that some people have, so that might be asking a lot of a few.
Yeah, Jeff, that would be a good place to start. Glad to see you're on board!
01-22-2008, 09:23 PM
#1093
More effort is put in effect to malign me personally over what I post than to refute the actual data.
Fact is, people don't like being called out for being ignorant, parochial, dogmatic or just plain stupid - so it is apparently easier to simply attack my character than deal with reality. Especially when the subject is the title of this thread.
You, of all the people living in glass houses around here, should know to withhold stones.
01-22-2008, 09:33 PM
#1094
I've always been on board. My posts are by far the most abused, misunderstood, despised, misinterpreted and maligned of any substantiative observations made.
More effort is put in effect to malign me personally over what I post than to refute the actual data.
Fact is, people don't like being called out for being ignorant, parochial, dogmatic or just plain stupid - so it is apparently easier to simply attack my character than deal with reality. Especially when the subject is the title of this thread.
You, of all the people living in glass houses around here, should know to withhold stones.
More effort is put in effect to malign me personally over what I post than to refute the actual data.
Fact is, people don't like being called out for being ignorant, parochial, dogmatic or just plain stupid - so it is apparently easier to simply attack my character than deal with reality. Especially when the subject is the title of this thread.
You, of all the people living in glass houses around here, should know to withhold stones.
How many times do I have to tell you!
You post, we read, then see your avitar and then don't understand what you said.
It's plain and simple!
Ha ha... Do you think maybe I'm right?
01-22-2008, 09:49 PM
#1097
I always loved the bit about a ratio.
Griffith: I was reading here just the other day where there's somewhere like 400 needy boys in this county alone, or one and a half boys per square mile.
Opie: There is?
Griffith: There sure is.
Opie: I never seen one, Pa.
Griffith: Never seen one what?
Opie: A half a boy.
Griffith: Well, it's not really a half a boy. It's a ratio.
Opie: Horatio who?
Griffith: Not Horatio, a ratio. It's mathematics. Arithmetic. Look, now, Opie, just forget that part of it. Forget the part about the half a boy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pretty hard to forget a thing like that, Pa.
Griffith: Well, try.
Opie: There is?
Griffith: There sure is.
Opie: I never seen one, Pa.
Griffith: Never seen one what?
Opie: A half a boy.
Griffith: Well, it's not really a half a boy. It's a ratio.
Opie: Horatio who?
Griffith: Not Horatio, a ratio. It's mathematics. Arithmetic. Look, now, Opie, just forget that part of it. Forget the part about the half a boy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pretty hard to forget a thing like that, Pa.
Griffith: Well, try.
