Pettit reflash for NA?
11-19-2007, 07:11 PM
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I got deligated to second and as Ray has just told you it will be going in on 12/4 if we can quit talking this time and keep our attention to the work. There are several other projects on the schedule so we need to stay busy this trip. I have to keep my lowly AT at peek form.
11-19-2007, 07:24 PM
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Oh I thought it was already on since I saw it on your sig. But I guess that is what I get for taking my eyes off the avatar.
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11-20-2007, 05:57 AM
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You know I must have answered this 100 times - Will not work - they will not flash a US cars and if they did it would not work (different programs). Now if you want to import the whole right hand drive car with no pollution controls then it would be another matter.
I keep telling everyone that the hp will not be significant but what I did not say was the limits will disappear or be raised to the end of the power curve. While you will not gain any hp, you will gain performance. No one asked the question so I did not address it.
Good to hear others are looking into the flash - there needs to be diversity. Go for it bud.
I keep telling everyone that the hp will not be significant but what I did not say was the limits will disappear or be raised to the end of the power curve. While you will not gain any hp, you will gain performance. No one asked the question so I did not address it.
Good to hear others are looking into the flash - there needs to be diversity. Go for it bud.
I mention the amemiya flash so that he knows what a flash does to the AT
11-20-2007, 06:12 PM
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I'll snap his neck.
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I wish I could get a reflash tool that would give my car more performance and cause the girl in Phil's avatar to pop out of my passenger door.
11-22-2007, 11:02 PM
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how anyone can think that at $295 it costs tooo much after they have bought a 500 dollar exhaust for no gain is beyond me.
11-22-2007, 11:37 PM
#34
my car says different- with a good tune - like the racing beat flash the car DOES gain not only hp throughout the rev range but over 10 peak as well. you may not think that is significant but anyone who still has a "stock " vehicle and then rides in my car immediately can tell the difference. secondly you get the cooling fan on earlier benefit.
how anyone can think that at $295 it costs tooo much after they have bought a 500 dollar exhaust for no gain is beyond me.
how anyone can think that at $295 it costs tooo much after they have bought a 500 dollar exhaust for no gain is beyond me.
11-22-2007, 11:51 PM
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ah so you were saying minimal gains in the context of the 4port 4AT cars.
as far as time they had it- took it out monday night ,sent it tuesday and put it back in the car friday evening.
as far as time they had it- took it out monday night ,sent it tuesday and put it back in the car friday evening.
11-23-2007, 07:35 AM
#36
Unless there's a limitation in the hardware (such as only being able to adjust timing by 15 degrees), I don't see why any one solution would be better than the other. After all, the power gained, is completely dependent on the resulting tune used.
11-23-2007, 04:30 PM
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My comments are mainly about 4 port ATs and what I am told about 6 port ATs. I may also be slightly biased due to my gains with the s/c.
11-24-2007, 07:36 PM
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The only reason I see of one being better than the other is the easy of their process to reach the desired tune.
That will just be dependent on the individuals preference.
Me I want a voice controlled one with artificail intelligence so I can tell it max whp and max trq being monitored and controlled at all times.
11-24-2007, 08:07 PM
#40
reflash for me is always the most ideal when possible. One less system that can fail in the mix (piggyback).
But there is no one size fits all, and each system has it's own pros and cons. So sometimes one is better than another for technical reasons, other times it's just personal choice.
But there is no one size fits all, and each system has it's own pros and cons. So sometimes one is better than another for technical reasons, other times it's just personal choice.
12-14-2007, 12:14 PM
#42
The problem with your logic is that stock car to stock car, some will have 20 or more whp than the other. So 6 whp is less than the natural variations of cars with no changes at all.
12-14-2007, 12:17 PM
#43
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any stock tuning rx-8 and my car. ive done it with various cars. mine was nothing special out of the box. i just barely pulled 180 on good run on the dyno pre flash and had pulled less previously. so mine wasnt one fo those 190-out of the gate cars.
12-14-2007, 12:19 PM
#44
exactly. Some stock cars will pull 160 or 170. Some will do 190.
Saying you can feel a 6 whp increase isn't a truthful way to measure anything because you don't know if one car already had a 20 whp increase over the other car to begin with.
And if you did have dynos for both cars, the results aren't going to be conclusive unless it's the same type of dyno, with similar gas, elevation, and climate.
Saying you can feel a 6 whp increase isn't a truthful way to measure anything because you don't know if one car already had a 20 whp increase over the other car to begin with.
And if you did have dynos for both cars, the results aren't going to be conclusive unless it's the same type of dyno, with similar gas, elevation, and climate.
12-14-2007, 12:25 PM
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RB flash is very expensive for the gains, while in line with other HP per $, they have the chance of being negated by the dealer during routine maintenance and a similar high reflash cost. HP returns are different with each tell.
With limited conversations with Cobb, your gain should be in the neighborhood of 5-10 hp (with his flash) but will cause any existing bolt-ons to reach their full potential. His flash will be less money with reflash costs minimal (or so the plan is).
With limited conversations with Cobb, your gain should be in the neighborhood of 5-10 hp (with his flash) but will cause any existing bolt-ons to reach their full potential. His flash will be less money with reflash costs minimal (or so the plan is).
back to that for a moment- Cobb will not be less expensive than the Racing Beat. Racing beat is $295 while Cobb will be over $600. not knocking cobb as i relish the day there is a field flash unit for our vehicle and it makes for obviously easier and less expensive reflashing. just correcting what phil said.
12-14-2007, 12:28 PM
#47
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i agree with all of your points just not your conclusion
but to point a finer point on it- my car now with the rb flash(and intake but oem exhaust) clearly and noticeably accelerates faster than any other stock oem tuned 6speed car ive driven/rode in so far
