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GREAT post man, thanks for that one
I AM in a bit of a difficult spot more than an emotional spot right now because the car I'm driving, (a saturn) has a clutch that is on it's last legs and it also needs to be smogged and I know that it won't pass it so that means a new cat since it burns a quart of oil per gas tank. So by buying the 8 I'm saving a couple hundred in smogging, parts and labor and other costs. It's a trade-off, I'd rather spend the extra money on a newer car than repair what is an unsellable old clunker and fix it myself later, I do love the old girl tho and she'll make insuring the 8 so much cheaper...
I AM in a bit of a difficult spot more than an emotional spot right now because the car I'm driving, (a saturn) has a clutch that is on it's last legs and it also needs to be smogged and I know that it won't pass it so that means a new cat since it burns a quart of oil per gas tank. So by buying the 8 I'm saving a couple hundred in smogging, parts and labor and other costs. It's a trade-off, I'd rather spend the extra money on a newer car than repair what is an unsellable old clunker and fix it myself later, I do love the old girl tho and she'll make insuring the 8 so much cheaper...
...I gave up on browning mazda, they were completely unreasonable and I didn't like the salesman at all. The other one I found with the GT package, they're unwilling to go below 17,500 at all saying something about wholesale price and that dealers won't make any money off me at all, something about refurbishing costs on used vehicles before they can sell them. if you can call BS on that and shed light on it, cool.
Hang tight...
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OK Here's what my guys said:
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Its not his problem if they make money on him Money down is retarded, don't let him do that. 1500 will get absorbed and won't help him at all, he will just be out 3 months payment. He should take the cash in from his credit union, put that on the table, if they don't like it, walk. RX-8s are usually in good supply at the dealers.
If its a used car (trade in), they probably gave the previous owner 12k, so wholesale crap is just...well crap. I would bet they didn't pay "wholesale" for it, and at 17.5 they are probably making a good penny on him. 17.5 out the door is what I say
Private party value HERE is 16.5k, and trade in is 14k. And we all know how dealers look at KBB trade in so they are probably 12-13k in that car. Find out what trade in on that car is in cali, and figure 5k more is a fair deal. 4k more then trade in is a good deal, and 3k would be great. I paid about 1k more then the car will trade in at, but I had my roll over from the sentra, so they could play with numbers to make it look better.
If its a used car (trade in), they probably gave the previous owner 12k, so wholesale crap is just...well crap. I would bet they didn't pay "wholesale" for it, and at 17.5 they are probably making a good penny on him. 17.5 out the door is what I say
Private party value HERE is 16.5k, and trade in is 14k. And we all know how dealers look at KBB trade in so they are probably 12-13k in that car. Find out what trade in on that car is in cali, and figure 5k more is a fair deal. 4k more then trade in is a good deal, and 3k would be great. I paid about 1k more then the car will trade in at, but I had my roll over from the sentra, so they could play with numbers to make it look better.
should be easy... if they'll let him walk in this market.. .then it's a good deal... but get financed through his credit union... that is a no brainer, dealership can and will make money on the financing...
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bet you they wouldn't take my saturn... 272,000 miles and counting. Actually they might for like 150 bucks and then make 100 giving it to the junkyard. not that I'll get rid of the old girl, makes my insurance 100 bucks cheaper and I plan to rebuild her anyway for fun.
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