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Old 09-23-2003 | 02:30 PM
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Important question for those that returned

What did mazda ask you when you called?

My dealer is REALLY starting to **** me off. They have until close tonight (I won't get into details) but I'm this " " close to returning.

I'll probably get another RX8 in the spring but from another dealer that doesn't have their heads up their a$$!

Just wondering what they asked, honestly I can't say "returning due to the HP" but if I HAVE to say that I will.
Old 09-23-2003 | 04:03 PM
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nobody? Guess they all left
Old 09-23-2003 | 04:15 PM
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I've had some cursory conversations with Mazda but not the actual group accepting the buyback offer. But basically just make sure to turn in as much paperwork as possible before the deadline, such as, the buyback acknowledgement, sales contract, loan/lease agreement, name/address/phone for any lien holder and lastly the title/registration of the car. The last component is the most contentious because many people, depending on State, will not have the title before the deadline. I was told that as long as you submit the other materials "in time" that the title document would be worked on to fully cycle your buyback.

You don't need an excuse if you bought within the buyback period, tell them whatever you want. Just have as much paperwork in order as possible to expedite your buyback.
Old 09-23-2003 | 04:28 PM
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Re: Important question for those that returned

Originally posted by Wing
What did mazda ask you when you called?

My dealer is REALLY starting to **** me off. They have until close tonight (I won't get into details) but I'm this " " close to returning.

I'll probably get another RX8 in the spring but from another dealer that doesn't have their heads up their a$$!

Just wondering what they asked, honestly I can't say "returning due to the HP" but if I HAVE to say that I will.

I dont understand what your asking..... they ask if you want to keep the car or not... but you call them, after you get the letter -

if you want to sell back... then you sighn another letter *they can fax you and send it and the title, buy sheet or what ever you have. so they will know what you paid for the car...

then a non partial THIRD PARTY will contact you to confirm the amount and get your check... I am in the last part now--

this is weird *or maybe not - they made it seem like, well...
I was told the amount I paid, then told that I would have to approve it before they get the checks from Mazda AS if I could get more??
Old 09-23-2003 | 04:37 PM
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ok thanks, it's just that then letter says "discuss buyback", so just seems fishy.

Thanks.
Old 09-23-2003 | 05:01 PM
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Wink ok yeah..

I thought I would have to explain too.. but she just asked which choice I wanted and said she would start the prossess....
Old 09-23-2003 | 06:04 PM
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Mazda never asked me for a reason why I was returning the car. My dealer had absolutely no involvement with the transaction.

I sent in my letter confirming the figures Mazda provided for my buyback last Friday. The independent firm doing the processing confirmed receipt of the signed letter. So far, not work on when I will get my refund check or where I should take the car.
Old 09-23-2003 | 11:04 PM
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He said "are you having HP issues" I said " it appears to go flat above 7 grand, but my main complaint is I am only getting 16 MPG" he said "OK, do you have a fax machine?"....blah blah...
Old 09-23-2003 | 11:16 PM
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I didn't think Canada had the buy-back offer -- I guess I was wrong
Old 09-24-2003 | 03:09 AM
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I sent in my letter a couple weks ago by Fedex.
Waited a couple of days and called Mazda (Canada).
They told me it would be about 3 weeks
Old 09-24-2003 | 07:25 AM
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canzoomer they return the tax too right?

I'm going to get the info today.

EDIT: Found out it's everything minus damages and such.

I do have a paint chip but I don't think that will be a problem, I kind of fixed it. They can't expect perfection can they? I did DRIVE the damn thing! It's not like I burned out the tires and stuff.


I WILL be returning the car It was a fun ride, but EVERYONE I talk to thinks I'm stupid not to. With our winters, it just makes sense. Why pay the large payments over the winter when I could drive a beater?

I can buy the car again in the spring if I really want another one, that is NOT an issue. I can test drive cars like a mad man until then to see if there is anything else I would like..... although probably not.

I guess I'll mail the letter out tomorrow morning. I'll send it registered to make sure they get it on time.

It IS only a car, not like I'm going to enjoy it much seeing it get dirty and salty and crapped on all winter

Maybe I'll keep my beater than buy another RX8 in the spring and put it away for the following winter.... who knows.

Heck even if I decide to buy another one TODAY, what do I lose? I get a new car .


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Old 09-27-2003 | 10:02 AM
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I've gotta say, Wing, that that's the problem with too many people today, IMHO. "Gotta get while the getting's good."

Mazda made the buyback available for people who were unhappy with the HP, and of course "not wanting to drive it over the winter" is a pretty lame excuse. (Gee, what are you going to do next winter if you buy another come Spring?)

Yeah, it's "playing by the rules" but stuff like this really makes me wish Mazda had put in a clause that if you sell back your 8 you cannot purchase another unless the HP rating changes for the better (after all if you were unhappy with 238 HP once, you'll still be unhappy with it in a year, or two or three...)

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Old 09-29-2003 | 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by BillK
I've gotta say, Wing, that that's the problem with too many people today, IMHO. "Gotta get while the getting's good."

Mazda made the buyback available for people who were unhappy with the HP, and of course "not wanting to drive it over the winter" is a pretty lame excuse. (Gee, what are you going to do next winter if you buy another come Spring?)

Yeah, it's "playing by the rules" but stuff like this really makes me wish Mazda had put in a clause that if you sell back your 8 you cannot purchase another unless the HP rating changes for the better (after all if you were unhappy with 238 HP once, you'll still be unhappy with it in a year, or two or three...)
I agree with the comment above. The buyback program is very generous of Mazda, they could have just offered the free maintenance program. I've read many posts on here of people wanting to return the RX-8 because of the markup they paid. If you don't like the car return it, but don't go out an buy another one because you can get it cheaper. That's taking unfair advantage of the deal being offered.
Old 09-30-2003 | 09:14 AM
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I agree it might not be the reason Mazda offered the buyback, but to me it makes financial and logical sense to return the car.

I'm not the most happy with the MPG and my REAL problem is the crappy dealer I have. I'll be HAPPY to show them my displeasure is so bad that I am willing to return this awesome car.

I'm not sure if I will purchase another RX8 or not. We'll see come next year. The good thing is I will have my beater for the following winter.

I can even admit that emotion was part of my purchase, there are so few of these cars in Canada that when one was available I had to jump on it. I couldn't think about it for a week it would have been gone. So I did jump on it, lucky for me I get this opportunity now. I had a nice long test drive, for minimal cost (interest and gas) and I get to sleep on it for a few months and decide if I do want to purchase another car.

One issue about being a car nut is you want every cool car that comes out. Normally you can switch cars (unless your a millionaire), but here is an opportunity of a lifetime for a car nut to switch cars again in a short period after having some fun.

I'm actually starting to look forward to getting out of the car, as rattles have begun and are driving me insane!
Old 09-30-2003 | 10:53 PM
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I agree with the comment above. The buyback program is very generous of Mazda, they could have just offered the free maintenance program. I've read many posts on here of people wanting to return the RX-8 because of the markup they paid. If you don't like the car return it, but don't go out an buy another one because you can get it cheaper. That's taking unfair advantage of the deal being offered.
You and BillK need to get over it. This is a perfectly good reason to sell the car back. I find it "unfair" that Mazda indicated if we didn't pre-order we would have to wait until Late 03 or early 04 to be able to purchase one off the lot. Funny thing is they didn't police the program at all and many dealers magically have plenty of cars available for purchase. I stopped by a dealer in Nashville that had 10 on the lot, the next day I was in Tampa and saw no less than 20, yes Twenty. There are hundreds if not thousands available and it isn't even October. People still haven't received thier pre-orders I bet.

Good luck to all of those that are selling them back and trying to buy another one for less. Chock one up for the little guy.

Peace
Old 10-01-2003 | 07:27 PM
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It does seem odd that there are plenty of RX-8's at dealerships. I've been to 2 and each have 7-9 cars on their lots.

Mazda and the dealerships did mislead everyone in saying that if you didn't pre-order then you couldn't get one until early next year. They kept saying it was going to be an exclusive car and everyone is going to want it. Well it seems not everyone wants it and some are even returning theirs. I have never seen this happen with any other car. Even the 350z is still hard to find.

Dealerships are still trying to sell them for over MSRP too. But I do stand by my comment that you shouldn't return the RX-8 only on the basis you payed $2000 over MSRP so now you can go out a few months later and pick one up for $500 over invoice. Mazda must really be worried about the impression this car will make.
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