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Old 07-12-2003 | 04:10 PM
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what did you guys pay for your rx-8?? dont need full info. just over,same, or under.

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Old 07-12-2003 | 04:59 PM
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so far . . .

So far I am the only guy who says he has paid under MSRP. I got $700 off, but have been keeping it sort of low key since I have not signed on the dotted line yet. As soon as I do, I will tell all how to get it and where . . . give me a few weeks.

BTW, I am looking to get a college grad $500 off on top of this.

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Old 07-12-2003 | 05:04 PM
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yeah i know mine will be under msrp also. (dealer employee) but i have not voted either until it is signed.
Old 07-12-2003 | 05:07 PM
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before anybody else says it....payed=paid. i know this i just misspelled somehow. doh!
Old 07-12-2003 | 05:11 PM
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a little under

I got $600 off sticker but I have not signed on the dotted line yet. It should be this week.
Old 07-12-2003 | 05:21 PM
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good

Good deal, I am glad to know I am not the only one . . . I frankly don't understand all the MSRP pre-orders. This is not an exotic car, it is the new hope for Mazda during a recession. I hope more people walk in asking for a few bucks off. I hope this thread blows up with posts, perfect to print out and show dealerships. This is my 3rd pre-order of a vehicle,

2003 H2 - $1700 off
2004 RX8 - $700 off
2005 Lotus Elise - $500 off

And while I am at it, why is everyone paying BS prep fees, and this and that fee. It should be the negotiated cost of the car, plus $100 title and tag and whatever you sales tax is. DO NOT TAKE ALL THE OTHER FEES. Destiantion charge takes care of all prep costs

Happy Haggling . . . remember they can make plenty of profit and still give the customer a couple of hundred off. Trying calling your local dealer's top across-town rivals and tell them it would just take $200-$300 for them to "steal" a quick sale away from their competition.
Old 07-12-2003 | 10:07 PM
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my dealer and i signed the propsal at msrp and i got the copy also.this is pretty good for ak cause all dealers have a markup here,atleast 1000,they say its the price of doing buisness up here.you can get cars lower than msrp if its something they have lots of and arent moving but on a car like the 8 its a good deal here.
Old 07-13-2003 | 01:52 PM
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i ordered mine at $500 under and tried the mitsubishi challenge to take another $100 back. i believe my dealer has about 20 comming in and just a few sold.....i know he would be willing to take $500 off for anyone else seeing that i have said what i got.
Old 07-14-2003 | 05:45 PM
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Are there any more people who want to vote on this?
Old 07-14-2003 | 05:51 PM
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Are you all kidding me??????? I work for what I beleive to be the only!!! Mazda dealer in Houston that is not marking the cars up over invoice, but below invoice?? that is just crazy!! If there is a dealer that hasn't sold almost every one of these before it hits the ground, they are doing something wrong. Paying MSRP and being one of the few to get the vehicle is a good deal in itself. Calll me crazy, but the car is worth every penny of MSRP. We have the right to make a living too.

Richard


invoice = MSRP.... sorry mistyped!!

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Old 07-14-2003 | 06:14 PM
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what services does a salesperson offer?

while i don't think that our founding fathers agreed that you have the right to make a living, you do have the right to pursue such an endeavour if it fits into your definition of happiness.

on a similar note, it is my understanding that the whatever amount is paid over the dealer invoice price, is split is some fashion between the dealership and the salesperson. of course there may be other parties that get a cut of the take that i am unaware of. so what service does the dealership or the salesperson perform that warrants more money?

when i go to a dealership, i know what vehicle i want and what options i want (all thanks to the wonderful internet) and
while some customers may need some instruction on how to work the power locks, child seat harness, or air conditioning, i know there are others out there who do not need to led by the hand and can either figure it out or RTFM. so why do we have to pay for salesman? what service do they offer?

wouldn't it be nice to be able to enter in the information relevant to the vehicle you desire into a web form, talk to the guy in the finance department, agree on a price a few percentage points over invoice to make the dealership happy they made a decent margin, go down to the dealership, pay and drive off.

i guess i just don't see a need for car sales staff.

but perhaps i'm being short-sighted and overlooking some vital value-added service that my salesperson performs. if so, please enlighten me.
Old 07-14-2003 | 06:25 PM
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Mazda dealer in Houston that is not marking the cars up over invoice, but below invoice?? that is just crazy!!
Hmm RX8 Seller, please read carefully before exploding. No one ever said "under invoice" they said "under MSRP!!!! BIG difference. If you include the estimated markup (8%), holdback (2%) financing incentive (2.7% btw 9% leasing is highway robbery) that is a total of about 12.7% profit for a car that took about 5 minutes to sell and 10 minutes to process the paperwork ... oh yeah I almost forgot that most dealerships charge an administration fee and oops forgot about the Freight & PDI charges too. So please don't ask for us to feel for you when we ask for $500 under MSRP.
Old 07-14-2003 | 07:54 PM
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I have a question, I do not want to be mis-understood here but when I hear people say they paid under sticker, the question is, what sticker. What I would like to see is how much you paid for the car total, contract signed, tax, title, etc. That is the only price that counts. There are a lot of "stickers" out there on cars these days. For example an RX8 with a GT package, nothing else retails for 31,100, before tax, title, etc. Seven hundred under sticker comes to 30,400

That includes no individual options as listed on the mazda site. Those of you who are quoting the price you paid please give the numbers as they can be checked. Many dealers add a sticker to the right of the Manufacturer sticker. I would like to know because if you really are getting that I am going to tell my dealer to come down or I will go elsewhere. As someone said this is not a rare car. I mean no offense to anyone but I find it hard to believe. :p
Old 07-14-2003 | 10:00 PM
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ok mazda rx-8 lightning yellow:
6 speed - 26,680
transportation - 520
grand touring package - 3900
rear wing spoiler - 355

total - 31,455

less 500

30,955 this is before taxes are added.

add taxes
add 10 for inspection
add 20 for processing registration

and there we have it.
Old 07-14-2003 | 10:31 PM
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After about a year, maybe less, everyone should be able to get one for under msrp!!:D
Old 07-14-2003 | 11:22 PM
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How is it that some ppl get below MSRP??? I know that if u are a graduating student, you can get 500 off... there are some of you out there that got $700 off on a car that hasnt even come out yet!!! Do you guys have any special tactics??? This will be my first new car purchase...P/M me if it gets too lengthy or is too revealing
Old 07-15-2003 | 12:57 AM
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I have done a ton a posts regarding getting an 8 under MSRP. The best is to make a dealer think they are "stealing" business from another dealer. In other words, "dealer A is near my house and I just spent 10 hours talking to him, but I am driving 25miles from my house because Mike (everyone sells to a Mike) says you guys are the best, he bought 3 mazdas from you guys . . . anyway, since you guys are so far, give me a deal I can't get anywhere else and I will take up only 5minutes of your time and still make you over $2000. Do the deal and put it in writing I will bring my car here for servicing and all my frat buddies to buy this car too."

I have more tactics than this. Simply stated if I can get and H2 and an Lotus Elise below MSRP, I can get a Mazda.

To those asking about my deal:

6speed GT with NAVI: $33,100
MINUS DISCOUNT: 700
PLUS 6% TAX: 1944
I will get my own registration.

Out the Door: $34,344
MINUS DEPOSIT: $500

I will bring them a check for $32,844.

Still trying to get the Mitsubishi challenge and the College Credit


I am willing to post my contract once I sign
Old 07-15-2003 | 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by takahashi j
How is it that some ppl get below MSRP??? I know that if u are a graduating student, you can get 500 off... there are some of you out there that got $700 off on a car that hasnt even come out yet!!! Do you guys have any special tactics??? This will be my first new car purchase...P/M me if it gets too lengthy or is too revealing
i paid under msrp. my tactic=working with a mazda dealer for over 14 years:D
Old 07-15-2003 | 12:01 PM
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Yours is obviously a better one than my FUBAR!!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy you new ride. Can you check my VIN through the NAVI?

hehehehe
Old 08-08-2003 | 01:04 AM
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I will pay $800 over invoice!
Old 08-08-2003 | 01:36 AM
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The Numbers are Interesting

With 87 votes, only one admits to being over msrp. I don't know about other markets, but in Las Vegas, there is 1 dealer with 2 lots. They are WAY OVER MSRP, and the nearest competition I know of is in St. George, Utah is over 120 miles away.

Oh, one more thing, when I was there last week they wouldn't even discuss dealing, they have a take it or leave it attitude. I am sure this will change as the inventory piles up, but for now they give the impression that they don't feel the need to accomodate anyone.

Finally, Vegas is kind of a showy place and usually when a new car comes out you see a bunch on the road and at the hot spots in town. To date, I have seen 1 RX8. I am sure there are several in the area, but I just haven't seen any evidence of it yet.

To those in competitive markets who were able to get the RX8 at a reasonable price, congratulations.
Old 08-08-2003 | 12:49 PM
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$300 over Invoice

Yes I paid only $300.00 over dealer Invoice in MARYLAND.

You live close to MD? Contact me I will share WHO to contact.
Old 08-08-2003 | 02:52 PM
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MSRP. $30,400 touring plus cd changer. no tax in Oregon:D
Old 08-09-2003 | 06:55 PM
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Bringing this one back to the surface. I was finally able to vote in here!

Paid MSRP of $32,564 with rotary and appearance packages, and spoiler.
Old 08-09-2003 | 08:35 PM
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payed 34,900

fully loaded, appearance, nav, rotary accents, GT package


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