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Old 06-12-2012, 12:53 AM
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yo dznutzuk i've been reading up since im starting my project and i saw u are using the bre front cover and reni e throttle, can you please post or give some insight on the actual wiring. thanks....
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Well I'm using a standalone Haltech E8. The wiring stays the same, leave the stock harness where it is(I removed unnecessary plugs such as injectors, ignition, and some electronic valves). I used the stock tps signal and attached it to the Haltech. You can use any front cover you want, but you need to mount the stock trigger wheel and it's sensor to have the power steering work and the stock tachometer.
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thanks for the easy way out you saved me alot of trouble in the future.
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Here's a tiny update, I ended using the stock intake box as it's sooo thick and shields the radiator heat very nicely, along with the front bumper (rotor)intake straight to the intake box makes for coool temps! Unfortunately I haven't had it tuned yet as I'm waiting for another 2 cars to finish the break-in period before we fly a guy over here from the states.
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that looks really neat--nice job
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Thanks OD!
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Originally Posted by dznutzuk
I have to finish the exhaust manifold for the turbo and wastegate. Unfortunately since I'm using the stock Rx8 mounts there's no room to do individual runners to the turbo so I had to join them together into a single runner. Aah what the hell who cares if I lose a little power. That's how the other guys with 20b's did it.

so you used the RX8 motor mounts without modifing them on both sides? or did you make your own motor mounts? thank you.
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so you used the RX8 motor mounts without modifing them on both sides? or did you make your own motor mounts? thank you.
Whatever you do you have to modify the stock mounts and tap the side plate for 1 of the screws(depending on which engine you use). At first I only had a single runner going through the mount(old setup). Now(new setup) I have cut the top part and have two true equal length runners passing through going to the BW.
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awesome! now what about fuel? did you use the same fuel pump? do the fuel lines on the 13bre fit the lines on the rx8?
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Looks great. Still has an OEM feel to it.
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Originally Posted by chepetech
awesome! now what about fuel? did you use the same fuel pump? do the fuel lines on the 13bre fit the lines on the rx8?
Fuel system consists of an Aeromotive 340, you use the stock RX8 feed line for the external fuel pressure regulator return and make a new -AN6 from the rear to the front for the new feed line.
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very interested in doing this swap. what do you think you spent in total?

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Darkness, waaay too much! I bought a couple of expensive parts that I shouldn't have. Like a exedy hyper single clutch as I had plans to use the stock fd transmission(whole) then kept the stock 6speed and ended up making a custom one. Then I got rid of that and hybrided another transmission. Blew the first engine since it was untuned. If I did everything right the first time(virtually impossible) I could have done a 3rotor instead. At some point in time you lose count of $$$....
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I actually have it all written down, but I'm afraid to do the mass calculation...
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Originally Posted by dznutzuk
Fuel system consists of an Aeromotive 340, you use the stock RX8 feed line for the external fuel pressure regulator return and make a new -AN6 from the rear to the front for the new feed line.
This would make a great how to article, many want an external pressure regular.
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thats why the forums are so beautiful. hopefully we can learn from those who pioneered before us. I am going to try this in a few small stages.

rebuild core fd3s Goopy seals
stock twins
haltech
then back to the drawing board based on results after swap.
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thats why the forums are so beautiful. hopefully we can learn from those who pioneered before us. I am going to try this in a few small stages.

rebuild core fd3s Goopy seals
stock twins
haltech
then back to the drawing board based on results after swap.
^ stock twins wont fit down there, unless you do major work.
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needed that info, I hadnt checked yet. I just happened to have stock twins on hand. thanks bro.
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yes please can you let us know around how much this complete build cost, im getting a spare 13b-rew from my brother that im planing on rebuilding and installing im my rx8 but before that i would like to know how much everything would come up to and are the clusters working ok like are there any check lights on?
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Allow at least 20k
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Godshand, whatever my builldup cost is, it won't be the same for others as I did just about everything myself-except for the tig welding. What you have to consider is prices for all the parts:

1.) Good clean ported engine(I also used 3mm seals)
2.) turbo and wastegate(I have a S363 and a ebay 50mm wastegate)
3.) Standalone ecu(I'm running a Haltech E8)
4.) Aeromotive 340l fp and fuel pressure regulator along with new fuel lines, 4new injectors
5.) Custom manifold and full 3in exhaust
6.) Intercooler, blow off valve and piping
7.) Various gauges
8.) Various brackets and redesigned engine brackets.

So you can probably figure out prices by that list except for #8. And yes everything in the cluster works just as it should. I do have the check engine light on(only) and that's only because I haven't re-installed the stock o2 sensors. It's not something I really cared about, everything else is fine including the dsc traction control(works with both setups-mechanical and electronic throttle body).
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thanks for the info man, im just asking cause people are telling me its going to cost the same as installing a 20B so i figured for that i will just go turbo and just run around with 350hp, but your info is really helpful, im going to try and get something similar to you but im going with some different seals the 2mm seals from RXparts.com are really good, Roan Farquharson has them on his 9.5s street RX-7, im also going to go with the Haltech platinum sport 1000 to make sure everything in the car is running good and for a turbo maybe a GT35R BB turbo or a precision T76 turbo. i want to be able to drive the car around on a daily basis and road race with it or 1/4 on the weekends...
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Using the same coils on the renesis miata, really happy with them runnign around 5ms dwell.. even when the plug where so wet the fuel dripped out, let the coils fires them half an hour (output test on the megasquirt) put them in, works perfect again.. in comparison with stock ign setup the plugs are already fooled before you even cranked =)


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