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Old 07-16-2007 | 10:19 AM
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My friend has a 2005 rx-8....its all stock with about 25% tread left on its back tires and he expects to hit high 14's to low 15's....and his logic on drag racing go something like this..."i will just launch with traction control on so i wont loose traction but it will launch as high as possible".....I like the rx-8 and it is a quick car but from what i've read it got a 14.5 brand new with a pro car and driver driver...would these times be possible for him?...thanks
Old 07-16-2007 | 10:33 AM
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Old 07-16-2007 | 10:42 AM
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People have discussed this topic before? Interesting....
Old 07-16-2007 | 11:00 AM
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Old 07-16-2007 | 11:09 AM
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Your friend is a moron.


Real life traction control doesn't work like Gran Turismo traction control. You cannot just floor it and drop the clutch and let the computers give you a professional-grade start. He will rev high, drop the clutch, the tires will chirp, the traction control will stop all throttle input (he'll be coasting), and wait for the revs to drop before slowly giving him full throttle output.

If he drags with his traction control on, he's going to get laughed at.
Old 07-16-2007 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ½mv²
Your friend is a moron.


Real life traction control doesn't work like Gran Turismo traction control. You cannot just floor it and drop the clutch and let the computers give you a professional-grade start. He will rev high, drop the clutch, the tires will chirp, the traction control will stop all throttle input (he'll be coasting), and wait for the revs to drop before slowly giving him full throttle output.

If he drags with his traction control on, he's going to get laughed at.
Amen.....
Old 07-16-2007 | 11:49 AM
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I know it has been asked time and time again and it is annoying to be asked, but im just curious and would really appreciate a more direct answer...thanks
Old 07-16-2007 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ½mv²
Your friend is a moron.


Real life traction control doesn't work like Gran Turismo traction control. You cannot just floor it and drop the clutch and let the computers give you a professional-grade start. He will rev high, drop the clutch, the tires will chirp, the traction control will stop all throttle input (he'll be coasting), and wait for the revs to drop before slowly giving him full throttle output.

If he drags with his traction control on, he's going to get laughed at.

I'm sorry but when I read this, I was thinking about watching the horror / comedy of it and it cracked my **** up...
Old 07-16-2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tripleblacks2000
I know it has been asked time and time again and it is annoying to be asked, but im just curious and would really appreciate a more direct answer...thanks

He gave you a very direct answer. Its dumb to use traction control when launching during a drag race. TCS will completely bog your power down.
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Old 07-16-2007 | 12:25 PM
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maybe i should have written the question differently....i was trying to ask if he could run the high 14's or low 15's WITH or WITHOUT the tcs thing..thanks
Old 07-16-2007 | 12:28 PM
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from 1/2mv's post I think you can infer that he cannot.
He will rev high, drop the clutch, the tires will chirp, the traction control will stop all throttle input (he'll be coasting), and wait for the revs to drop before slowly giving him full throttle output.
and if that doesn't give it away, I think the first line in his post does.
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Originally Posted by tripleblacks2000
maybe i should have written the question differently....i was trying to ask if he could run the high 14's or low 15's WITH or WITHOUT the tcs thing..thanks
yes it is possible, but he will destroy the clutch and you will fill the air with the beautiful smell of burnt clutch

< scratch and sniff here >
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yes it is possible, but he will destroy the clutch and you will fill the air with the beautiful smell of burnt clutch

< scratch and sniff here >

scratch and sniff isnt working
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scratch and sniff isnt working
sucka! hahaa
Old 07-16-2007 | 01:38 PM
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If he drags an RX-8, he's going to get laughed at.
FTFY.
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sucka! hahaa

DAMNIT!!!....always fall for that...
Old 07-16-2007 | 01:50 PM
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Hmm... the key question is would it have enough gas to reach 1/4 mile without stopping to refuel?
Old 07-16-2007 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tripleblacks2000
My friend has a 2005 rx-8....its all stock with about 25% tread left on its back tires and he expects to hit high 14's to low 15's....and his logic on drag racing go something like this..."i will just launch with traction control on so i wont loose traction but it will launch as high as possible".....I like the rx-8 and it is a quick car but from what i've read it got a 14.5 brand new with a pro car and driver driver...would these times be possible for him?...thanks
I heard AT's can rev to 7.5k and then pop it into first and pull off low 11's. He should have gotten an AT. Then after his first race he'd never have to worry about embarrassing himself again.
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Originally Posted by delhi
Hmm... the key question is would it have enough gas to reach 1/4 mile without stopping to refuel?
Haha...so true.
Old 07-16-2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Shini
I heard AT's can rev to 7.5k and then pop it into first and pull off low 11's. He should have gotten an AT. Then after his first race he'd never have to worry about embarrassing himself again.

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Old 07-16-2007 | 02:27 PM
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hey look it's our buddies from honda, the fr torque-less roadsters. difference is they can rev to 9000 but actually make power

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Originally Posted by tripleblacks2000
maybe i should have written the question differently....i was trying to ask if he could run the high 14's or low 15's WITH or WITHOUT the tcs thing..thanks
You want a more direct answer? fine.



3 things are required to make a car fast in the ¼ mile:
-- High Torque
-- High Horsepower
-- Low Weight

The RX-8 has the torque of an econo-car, and thus doesn't have much to get it moving off the line. It also lacks horsepower, so once those revs start climbing, there still a shortage of power pushing the car forward. Fortunately, the RX-8 doesn't weight much, so it's able to accelerate faster than econo-cars with similar HP & Torque.
Long story short - Unless you don't mind blowing tons of cash on engine upgrades, you should never take an RX-8 on a drag strip.




To answer the other part of your queestion, dragging WITH traction control would kill your times by a good 2 or 3 seconds. Off the line you need to keep your revs near the peak of your torque band (4500~5500rpm). Hold your revs at that point and let the tires dig in. Your tires simply have to spin for a few moments if you're going to get a good time.
If you have the traction control on, as soon as your tires begin to spin, the car is going to ignore all throttle input and make you coast until your tires grip. By the time you get said grip, you'll be going 10-15mph. The computers will then slooowly return throttle control to you. To everyone watching the race, it will look like the driver is calmly pulling away, just like they would at a stop sign. He would be lucky to run a 17.



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