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Old 07-05-2007 | 05:03 PM
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12.3L engine in our RX-8?

I was looking at the RX8 information on wikipedia a while ago and when I checked it out again today, I noticed this was added.

The RX-8 is powered by a 12.3 L (1,308 cc) naturally-aspirated Renesis rotary engine, which features newly designed side intake and exhaust ports, versus peripheral exhaust ports of its predecessor the 13B-REW. The engine is smaller and lighter than previous rotaries, primarily due to the lack of a turbocharger and associated parts. Prior to popular belief, the engine IS in fact, 12.3 liters in displacement. It is not 1.3L and Mazda has recently admitted this. Because rotaries have multiple combustion chambers per rotary, the displacement of all the combustion chambers must be measured for true displacement. When measured fully, it comes out to 12.3L. Mazda had said it was 1.3L before to make the horsepower/liter ratio appear impressive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8

Anyway, I just thought it would be interesting to know.
Old 07-05-2007 | 05:11 PM
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1.3, 2.6, 12.3...let's throw out more numbers out there...
Old 07-05-2007 | 05:14 PM
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Old 07-05-2007 | 05:18 PM
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It Sounds Like You've Never Seen A Catterpillar Engine Close To 12 Liters In Front Of You .. Nothing To Do With The Renesis.
Old 07-05-2007 | 05:22 PM
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I edited it...see what happens. Dude sounds crazy, IMO.
Old 07-05-2007 | 05:25 PM
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I want to know how he came up with 12.3L
Old 07-05-2007 | 06:01 PM
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Wikipedia, is a great invention. People can write anything about anything they want. I mean with sources like that you know it's got to be real.
Old 07-05-2007 | 06:08 PM
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Old 07-05-2007 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cudgel
I was looking at the RX8 information on wikipedia a while ago and when I checked it out again today, I noticed this was added.

The RX-8 is powered by a 12.3 L (1,308 cc) naturally-aspirated Renesis rotary engine, which features newly designed side intake and exhaust ports, versus peripheral exhaust ports of its predecessor the 13B-REW. The engine is smaller and lighter than previous rotaries, primarily due to the lack of a turbocharger and associated parts. Prior to popular belief, the engine IS in fact, 12.3 liters in displacement. It is not 1.3L and Mazda has recently admitted this. Because rotaries have multiple combustion chambers per rotary, the displacement of all the combustion chambers must be measured for true displacement. When measured fully, it comes out to 12.3L. Mazda had said it was 1.3L before to make the horsepower/liter ratio appear impressive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8

Anyway, I just thought it would be interesting to know.
1,308cc = 1.3L .......
Old 07-05-2007 | 06:20 PM
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If I really have 12.3L engine equivalent, then I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!
Old 07-05-2007 | 06:54 PM
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at one point a few years ago it said "is powered by a pathetically underpowered and overrated engine"... wikipedia -yawn-
Old 07-05-2007 | 07:21 PM
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has the gas mileage of a 12.3 liter
Old 07-05-2007 | 07:22 PM
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I didn't realize how easy it was to make changes on there.
Maybe it was a crossfire owner who put the 12.3L on there
Old 07-05-2007 | 07:22 PM
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I can't believe this is missing from this thread so I'll step up:

Let's sue Mazda for false advertising!
Old 07-05-2007 | 08:08 PM
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It's pretty obvious that the person who typed that hit both the numbers 1 and 2 when typing that. They didn't come up with it anywhere. It was a typo.
Old 07-05-2007 | 08:09 PM
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Is this dude on crack?!?!! I just checked Wikipedia and it says 1.3L [1308cc]
Where did he see this BS about 12.3L?? the only referece to size anomolies was that it should be a 2.6L instead of 1.3L
Old 07-05-2007 | 08:09 PM
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Damn too slow on the uptake!!
Old 07-05-2007 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
It's pretty obvious that the person who typed that hit both the numbers 1 and 2 when typing that. They didn't come up with it anywhere. It was a typo.
I'd agree with you but he typed it three times...which would indicate that it wasn't a typo
Old 07-05-2007 | 09:15 PM
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I'd agree with you but he typed it three times...which would indicate that it wasn't a typo
Then it was probably a person that didn't know very much about rotaries who was reading the specs off of another site that had it typed wrong. He just copied what he saw without really knowing anything. I'd believe that. The perfect example is the 7 forum. It's full of mindless lemmings who know nothing about rotaries but just repeat what they saw, heard, or read elsewhere. It was probably someone like that who typed that.
Old 07-05-2007 | 09:18 PM
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Lol!
Old 07-06-2007 | 03:04 AM
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So let me get this straight, youre saying synthetics are OK for the renesis?
no they will ruin the motor!!!! search...

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Old 07-06-2007 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
no they will ruin the motor!!!! search...

beers
you should add that on the wikipedia page
Old 07-06-2007 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Then it was probably a person that didn't know very much about rotaries who was reading the specs off of another site that had it typed wrong. He just copied what he saw without really knowing anything. I'd believe that. The perfect example is the 7 forum. It's full of mindless lemmings who know nothing about rotaries but just repeat what they saw, heard, or read elsewhere. It was probably someone like that who typed that.

sometimes I feel like that's me, and then other people post more relevant information. Always smarter too listen too people that can back themselves up.
Old 07-06-2007 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Then it was probably a person that didn't know very much about rotaries who was reading the specs off of another site that had it typed wrong. He just copied what he saw without really knowing anything. I'd believe that. The perfect example is the 7 forum. It's full of mindless lemmings who know nothing about rotaries but just repeat what they saw, heard, or read elsewhere. It was probably someone like that who typed that.


and this forum is different?
Old 07-06-2007 | 11:05 AM
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Anyone can be a wikipedia expert.

Unlike traditional encyclopedias that invite known experts to write for articles within their field, wikipedia allows anyone who contacts them to write about a subject as long as it is still available. If you disagree with what is written in wikipedia, and can prove to them that you know better, they will transfer the subject to you. If you search wikipedia for a topic and find no entry, feel free to write whatever you want about it and submit it. Chances are they will publish it for you, but this in no way establishes you as an expert.

Basically, wikipedia is a glorified message board that presents itself as a reference. Think of it as information for the masses . . . by tools, for tools.


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