2005 Shinka Authenticity Question
#1
2005 Shinka Authenticity Question
I recently saw an ad for a 2005 Shinka and when I checked it out, it was silver, which was not the color that Shinkas were that year. I checked with the dealer, who insisted it was a Shinka, because that's what CarFax's database has that VIN listed as. When I checked the VIN against Mazda's list of all 2005 Shinkas manufactured and shipped to North America, that VIN is not listed. AFAIK all 2005 Shinkas were Black Cherry Mica with Parchment leather seats, had Piano Black door panels, steering wheel spokes, and center console side panels, a premium Bose radio w/Sirius Satellite receiver with it's selector button on the Bose, Bose speakers in the front side doors with Bose emblems on the speaker grills, and the Sirius antenna puck mounted between the trunk lid and the rear window. It also had a Shinka emblem on the exterior panel between the front and rear door windows. The dealer's car has none of these. (Shinkas also have other equipment unique to the 2005 model including the suspension and I believe this was the only model in 2005 that had a graphite drive shaft. I don't remember if the sunroof was optional or standard, and the only options I remember were the spare tire and choice of automatic or manual transmission.
I checked the VIN with several online VIN checkers, and some list it as a Sport model, and a few list it as a Shinka, even though it doesn't have many of the things that the Mazda brochures say it should have. Some of the data bases I checked say it is a Shinka, including CarFax, Kelly Bluebook (who use Autocheck), but this might be the mistake of one VIN services' mistake cascading through their customers who use their services.
Please fact-check me and let me know if there were any exceptions to the 2005 Shinka recipi and if you know how to contact someone at Mazda who could corroborate whether or not this car is actually a 2005 Shinka. The VIN number is JM1FE17N550142354 . (One other possible explanation might be a stolen car with a VIN from another totaled vehicle).
I checked the VIN with several online VIN checkers, and some list it as a Sport model, and a few list it as a Shinka, even though it doesn't have many of the things that the Mazda brochures say it should have. Some of the data bases I checked say it is a Shinka, including CarFax, Kelly Bluebook (who use Autocheck), but this might be the mistake of one VIN services' mistake cascading through their customers who use their services.
Please fact-check me and let me know if there were any exceptions to the 2005 Shinka recipi and if you know how to contact someone at Mazda who could corroborate whether or not this car is actually a 2005 Shinka. The VIN number is JM1FE17N550142354 . (One other possible explanation might be a stolen car with a VIN from another totaled vehicle).
#4
+ Laziness. Mazda does trims/packages weird, and not every inventory/lookup system takes it into account. They see "base" or "GT/Shinka/Touring/Sport/whatever", and instead of thinking or lifting a finger, they choose the better sounding option.
#5
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Your suspicions are correct! I own a 2005 Shinka and it ONLY came in Black Cherry with a tan leather interior that year. Mine has a sunroof, aero package, Bose, SirusXm all OEM--no nav though or spare. There are other minor trim differences: headlights, shifter ring and wheel color are a slightly different shade of silver hue. Drink holder slider cover is leather wrapped with orange-ish stitching. If it doesn't have all of the features you mentioned, then it isn't a Shinka, no matter what the dealer says.
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the full VIN list for 2005 and 2006 Shinkas is linked on the thread below:
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...3/#post4982202
there were 1,357 total 2005 Shinkas, all Cherry Black Mica with Parchment interior:
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https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...3/#post4982202
there were 1,357 total 2005 Shinkas, all Cherry Black Mica with Parchment interior:
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Last edited by TeamRX8; 08-27-2023 at 11:55 AM.
#7
40th anniversary Edition
I recently saw an ad for a 2005 Shinka and when I checked it out, it was silver, which was not the color that Shinkas were that year. I checked with the dealer, who insisted it was a Shinka, because that's what CarFax's database has that VIN listed as. When I checked the VIN against Mazda's list of all 2005 Shinkas manufactured and shipped to North America, that VIN is not listed. AFAIK all 2005 Shinkas were Black Cherry Mica with Parchment leather seats, had Piano Black door panels, steering wheel spokes, and center console side panels, a premium Bose radio w/Sirius Satellite receiver with it's selector button on the Bose, Bose speakers in the front side doors with Bose emblems on the speaker grills, and the Sirius antenna puck mounted between the trunk lid and the rear window. It also had a Shinka emblem on the exterior panel between the front and rear door windows. The dealer's car has none of these. (Shinkas also have other equipment unique to the 2005 model including the suspension and I believe this was the only model in 2005 that had a graphite drive shaft. I don't remember if the sunroof was optional or standard, and the only options I remember were the spare tire and choice of automatic or manual transmission.
I checked the VIN with several online VIN checkers, and some list it as a Sport model, and a few list it as a Shinka, even though it doesn't have many of the things that the Mazda brochures say it should have. Some of the data bases I checked say it is a Shinka, including CarFax, Kelly Bluebook (who use Autocheck), but this might be the mistake of one VIN services' mistake cascading through their customers who use their services.
Please fact-check me and let me know if there were any exceptions to the 2005 Shinka recipi and if you know how to contact someone at Mazda who could corroborate whether or not this car is actually a 2005 Shinka. The VIN number is JM1FE17N550142354 . (One other possible explanation might be a stolen car with a VIN from another totaled vehicle).
I checked the VIN with several online VIN checkers, and some list it as a Sport model, and a few list it as a Shinka, even though it doesn't have many of the things that the Mazda brochures say it should have. Some of the data bases I checked say it is a Shinka, including CarFax, Kelly Bluebook (who use Autocheck), but this might be the mistake of one VIN services' mistake cascading through their customers who use their services.
Please fact-check me and let me know if there were any exceptions to the 2005 Shinka recipi and if you know how to contact someone at Mazda who could corroborate whether or not this car is actually a 2005 Shinka. The VIN number is JM1FE17N550142354 . (One other possible explanation might be a stolen car with a VIN from another totaled vehicle).
From Wikipedia:
Shinka[edit]
"In 2005 and 2006, Mazda introduced the first special edition of the RX-8 called "Sports Prestige Limited" in Japan and "Shinka" in North America. The Shinka takes its name from the Japanese word meaning "transformation" or "evolution".[15] Marketed as a more luxurious grand touring model, it came with Black Cherry in 05 and Various Special exterior colors in 06. Sand color parchment leather and suede interior along with subtly chromed 18-inch wheels. Out of the total production of 2,150 vehicles, 1,357 were produced for the North American market. The most significant mechanical change were slightly revised Bilstein shocks and suspension cross member injected with urethane foam to improve ride quality."So in 2005 Shinka were all Black Cherry, but in 2006 Shinka came in various special exterior colors.
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Last edited by gwilliams6; 08-28-2023 at 08:44 PM.
#9
40th anniversary Edition
That is a correct Shinka exterior and interior color for the second of two years of the Shinkas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8
Shinka[edit]
In 2005 and 2006, Mazda introduced the first special edition of the RX-8 called "Sports Prestige Limited" in Japan and "Shinka" in North America. The Shinka takes its name from the Japanese word meaning "transformation" or "evolution".[15] Marketed as a more luxurious grand touring model, it came with Black Cherry in 05 and Various Special exterior colors in 06. Sand color parchment leather and suede interior along with subtly chromed 18-inch wheels. Out of the total production of 2,150 vehicles, 1,357 were produced for the North American market. The most significant mechanical change were slightly revised Bilstein shocks and suspension cross member injected with urethane foam to improve ride quality.Last edited by gwilliams6; 09-10-2023 at 08:34 PM.
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