3 generations of RX8
12-25-2008 | 01:34 AM
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3 generations of RX8?
According to Japan, (rx-7 magazine) there are 3 generations of RX8. They say that 2004 to 2006 is the first gen. Then in 07 they mention that the 6speed auto came out for the j-spec cars which they list as 2nd gen. Then 3rd gen is the 09's.
I'll post the pic of the page in the magazine tomorrow.
Ben
I'll post the pic of the page in the magazine tomorrow.
Ben
Last edited by Benjamz; 12-25-2008 at 03:22 AM.
12-25-2008 | 03:01 AM
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According to Japan, (rx-7 magazine) there are 3 generations of RX8. They say that 2004 to 2006 is the first gen. Then in 07 they mention that the 6speed auto came out for the j-spec cars which they list as 2nd gen. Then 3rd gen is the 09's.
I'll post the pic of the page in the magazine tomorrow.
Ben
I'll post the pic of the page in the magazine tomorrow.
Ben
12-25-2008 | 03:06 AM
#3
i would only call the 09s a new generation. they have a new tranny, new interior, new exterior, new rear diff, new rims.
i think call the 06+ 2nd gen simply because they have the 6 speed auto is kind of eh.. not quite cutting it.
maybe the 05 is the 2nd gen because they got the new key? lol...
i think call the 06+ 2nd gen simply because they have the 6 speed auto is kind of eh.. not quite cutting it.
maybe the 05 is the 2nd gen because they got the new key? lol...
12-25-2008 | 03:09 AM
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Why post this in two places?
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
2004 (2003) is the first "generation".
2005 is the first minor change.
2006 - 2008 is the second "generation".
2009 is the third "generation", but since it is the first re-tooling, it would probably be considered the second "generation" by most.
If you use past models as an indicator, we are really still in the first "generation" since the design really hasn't changed and the production code is still SE3P (VIN FE).
The next "generation" RX-8 would be FF.
2005 is the first minor change.
2006 - 2008 is the second "generation".
2009 is the third "generation", but since it is the first re-tooling, it would probably be considered the second "generation" by most.
If you use past models as an indicator, we are really still in the first "generation" since the design really hasn't changed and the production code is still SE3P (VIN FE).
The next "generation" RX-8 would be FF.
12-25-2008 | 03:18 AM
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Just posting what I saw in a Japanese magazine.
Japan just says there is 3 gen's. It is not me, as far as I'm concerned there is still only one gen RX8 still.
The RX7's has substantial changes, the have 3 real generations.
The first gen had a 12a and then the 13b, but they are still the 1st gen.
The 2nd gen were different from 86/87 and 88/91, but still second gen.
The 3rd gen got upgraded turbos, and different bumpers and interior in 99, but it's still a third gen.
There have not been any big enough changes to call it a 2nd gen car. Re-vamped oil system and different tranny, bumpers.. It's still the same chasis.
There is really only still the 1st gen rx8 untill they make it look like a completely different car and still call it an rx8.
Thats what I think, and I agree with MazdaManiac.
P.S. I fixed my re-post with this thread, the other post is changed. Bad habbit.
Japan just says there is 3 gen's. It is not me, as far as I'm concerned there is still only one gen RX8 still.
The RX7's has substantial changes, the have 3 real generations.
The first gen had a 12a and then the 13b, but they are still the 1st gen.
The 2nd gen were different from 86/87 and 88/91, but still second gen.
The 3rd gen got upgraded turbos, and different bumpers and interior in 99, but it's still a third gen.
There have not been any big enough changes to call it a 2nd gen car. Re-vamped oil system and different tranny, bumpers.. It's still the same chasis.
There is really only still the 1st gen rx8 untill they make it look like a completely different car and still call it an rx8.
Thats what I think, and I agree with MazdaManiac.
P.S. I fixed my re-post with this thread, the other post is changed. Bad habbit.
Last edited by Benjamz; 12-25-2008 at 03:27 AM.
12-25-2008 | 03:28 PM
#6
Maybe there's a translation mixup between "series" and "generation." There were actually 8 different series of RX-7. From wikipedia:
1st Gen:
Series 1 (1979–1980) is commonly referred to as the "SA22C" from the first alphanumerics of the vehicle identification number.
Series 2 (1981–1983) had integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. Known as the "FB" in North America.
Series 3 (1984–1985) featured an updated lower front fascia.
2nd Gen:
Series 4 (1986–1988) was available with a naturally aspirated, fuel-injected 13B-VDEI producing 146 hp (108 kW). An optional turbocharged model, known as the Turbo II in the American market, had 189 hp.
Series 5 (1989–1992) featured updated styling and better engine management. The naturally aspirated Series 5 FC made 160 hp, while the Series 5 Turbo made 200 hp.
3rd Gen:
Series 6 (1992–1995) was exported throughout the world and had the highest sales. In Japan, Mazda sold the RX-7 through its Efini brand as the Efini RX-7. Only the 1993–1995 model years were sold in the U.S. and Canada. Series 6 came with 255 hp.
Series 7 (1996–1998) included minor changes to the car. Updates included a simplified vacuum routing manifold and a 16-bit ECU allowing for increased boost which netted an extra 10 hp.
Series 8 (January 1999– August 2002) was the final series, and was only available in the Japanese market. More efficient turbochargers were installed, while improved intercooling and radiator cooling was made possible by a revised frontal area. Power was 276 hp.
Wikipedia doesn't mention anything about "series" in the RX-8 article, but I would guess that is what the article was talking about. A "generation" would be a fully redesigned car.
1st Gen:
Series 1 (1979–1980) is commonly referred to as the "SA22C" from the first alphanumerics of the vehicle identification number.
Series 2 (1981–1983) had integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. Known as the "FB" in North America.
Series 3 (1984–1985) featured an updated lower front fascia.
2nd Gen:
Series 4 (1986–1988) was available with a naturally aspirated, fuel-injected 13B-VDEI producing 146 hp (108 kW). An optional turbocharged model, known as the Turbo II in the American market, had 189 hp.
Series 5 (1989–1992) featured updated styling and better engine management. The naturally aspirated Series 5 FC made 160 hp, while the Series 5 Turbo made 200 hp.
3rd Gen:
Series 6 (1992–1995) was exported throughout the world and had the highest sales. In Japan, Mazda sold the RX-7 through its Efini brand as the Efini RX-7. Only the 1993–1995 model years were sold in the U.S. and Canada. Series 6 came with 255 hp.
Series 7 (1996–1998) included minor changes to the car. Updates included a simplified vacuum routing manifold and a 16-bit ECU allowing for increased boost which netted an extra 10 hp.
Series 8 (January 1999– August 2002) was the final series, and was only available in the Japanese market. More efficient turbochargers were installed, while improved intercooling and radiator cooling was made possible by a revised frontal area. Power was 276 hp.
Wikipedia doesn't mention anything about "series" in the RX-8 article, but I would guess that is what the article was talking about. A "generation" would be a fully redesigned car.
12-27-2008 | 01:26 PM
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Maybe there's a translation mixup between "series" and "generation." There were actually 8 different series of RX-7. From wikipedia:
1st Gen:
Series 1 (1979–1980) is commonly referred to as the "SA22C" from the first alphanumerics of the vehicle identification number.
Series 2 (1981–1983) had integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. Known as the "FB" in North America.
Series 3 (1984–1985) featured an updated lower front fascia.
2nd Gen:
Series 4 (1986–1988) was available with a naturally aspirated, fuel-injected 13B-VDEI producing 146 hp (108 kW). An optional turbocharged model, known as the Turbo II in the American market, had 189 hp.
Series 5 (1989–1992) featured updated styling and better engine management. The naturally aspirated Series 5 FC made 160 hp, while the Series 5 Turbo made 200 hp.
3rd Gen:
Series 6 (1992–1995) was exported throughout the world and had the highest sales. In Japan, Mazda sold the RX-7 through its Efini brand as the Efini RX-7. Only the 1993–1995 model years were sold in the U.S. and Canada. Series 6 came with 255 hp.
Series 7 (1996–1998) included minor changes to the car. Updates included a simplified vacuum routing manifold and a 16-bit ECU allowing for increased boost which netted an extra 10 hp.
Series 8 (January 1999– August 2002) was the final series, and was only available in the Japanese market. More efficient turbochargers were installed, while improved intercooling and radiator cooling was made possible by a revised frontal area. Power was 276 hp.
Wikipedia doesn't mention anything about "series" in the RX-8 article, but I would guess that is what the article was talking about. A "generation" would be a fully redesigned car.
1st Gen:
Series 1 (1979–1980) is commonly referred to as the "SA22C" from the first alphanumerics of the vehicle identification number.
Series 2 (1981–1983) had integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. Known as the "FB" in North America.
Series 3 (1984–1985) featured an updated lower front fascia.
2nd Gen:
Series 4 (1986–1988) was available with a naturally aspirated, fuel-injected 13B-VDEI producing 146 hp (108 kW). An optional turbocharged model, known as the Turbo II in the American market, had 189 hp.
Series 5 (1989–1992) featured updated styling and better engine management. The naturally aspirated Series 5 FC made 160 hp, while the Series 5 Turbo made 200 hp.
3rd Gen:
Series 6 (1992–1995) was exported throughout the world and had the highest sales. In Japan, Mazda sold the RX-7 through its Efini brand as the Efini RX-7. Only the 1993–1995 model years were sold in the U.S. and Canada. Series 6 came with 255 hp.
Series 7 (1996–1998) included minor changes to the car. Updates included a simplified vacuum routing manifold and a 16-bit ECU allowing for increased boost which netted an extra 10 hp.
Series 8 (January 1999– August 2002) was the final series, and was only available in the Japanese market. More efficient turbochargers were installed, while improved intercooling and radiator cooling was made possible by a revised frontal area. Power was 276 hp.
Wikipedia doesn't mention anything about "series" in the RX-8 article, but I would guess that is what the article was talking about. A "generation" would be a fully redesigned car.
QFT.
RX-8 has not seen a 2nd Generation yet, only 3 different series'
12-27-2008 | 01:32 PM
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12-27-2008 | 01:46 PM
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Well in that case the 350Z had 3 generations.
03-06 - 287hp
07-08 - 306 hp / Minor cosmetic differences
Then the obvious 370Z Change
I wouldnt consider the minor revisions to the RX8 in 06 a 'next gen' , it was the same gen with an improvement.
03-06 - 287hp
07-08 - 306 hp / Minor cosmetic differences
Then the obvious 370Z Change
I wouldnt consider the minor revisions to the RX8 in 06 a 'next gen' , it was the same gen with an improvement.
12-28-2008 | 01:48 PM
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Yeah at the most the 09's are 2nd gen but i don't even think i would call it that usualy switching generations have a drastic exterior change like the early supra's to the 93-98's that everyone loves the most!
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