3 tickets in one stop... having a great day.
02-19-2007 | 05:42 PM
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Don't argue the anything other than the seatbelt one. Tell the judge you had it on and took it off to get your registration, etc. Be emphatic, but not a douche about it. Odds are he'll throw it out and maybe reduce the others. If you go in there and try and say you were trying to pass or whatever about the 40mph thing you'll likely burn up any good will you have with the judge. Just my 2 cents.
02-19-2007 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTears316
I'm sure you're upset over getting the tickets, but just to point out a couple things I noticed in your post that you may not want to mention in front of a judge. You are claiming that you were following too closely because you "just left" a red light, but then you got ticketed for doing 63 in a 35. Unless everyone floored their accelerator (including the semi) there is no way you would have needed to get to 63 to pass someone. Change your story or don't bother fighting it. I don't believe it, so what makes you think a judge would?
02-20-2007 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFL_RX8
Now dont get me wrong folks, Im not against an officer doing his job. I was speeding (not dangerously, but I was over the posted limit) and got caught, fair is fair. Lumping on 2 bullshit tickets in addition though is just garbage. Following too closely, I guess thats up to him to decide, but he just f**ked me with the seatbelt ticket.
I was speeding and got caught, so a speeding ticket was expected. Following closely I think is horse-****, but thats at the officers descresion.
The reason why Im saying he dicked me is for the seatbelt. Now that Ive noticed he messed up the speeding ticket (that ENTIRE road is a 40mph, not just perpendicular to the sign and past it) Im wondering if this gives me more of a case to have the tickets thrown out.
Had he given me just the two tickets I would have called it a really shitty morning and moved on, but he knowingly gave me a ticket I didnt deserve just to spite me. Put yourself in my shoes, how would you feel?
For those of you who have contributed useful advice, anicdotes and suggestions, thankyou, I appreciate the input, and Ill take it to heart.
For those of you who came in here and hounded me and just repeated to me what I did wrong, I have a spoon for you so you can eat my ***.
02-20-2007 | 12:33 AM
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If you personally go to court and say, "He was wrong I didn't blah blah blah..." the judge always goes with the cop's story. You are going to have to hire a ticket attorney. You will likely get off.
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02-20-2007 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFL_RX8
So I dropped my GF off at college this morning and took off as usual. I rounded the corner outside of campus at a pretty quick pace and accelerated to 65 (40mph zone) but the flow of traffic was about 55. I pull up to a stop light ahead and am stuck behind a pickup and next to a semi-truck. Leaving the light I stay close to the pickup in order to pass the semi and get out of the thick of the group.
Just as Im about to clear the Semi I hear a siren and see lights in my rearview. I pull it over and take off my seatbelt to get my wallet out and to get my registration from the glovebox.
The officer immediatly tells me he wants to arrest me for wreckless driving, speeding, and following too closely. I admit I had been speeding a bit, but tell him that I was following closely both because we had just left a red light, and because I was attempting to pass the semi.
He takes my info, and goes back to his car to write me up.
He returns and tells me he's giving me 3 tickets, and is giving me a warning on the 'Wreckless Driving' he witnessed.
First ticket is for going 63mph in a 35 (actually a posted 40, not 20 feet from where I was pulled over)
Second ticket is following too closely (like I said, we had JUST left a red light and I was making a pass)
Third ticket is for NOT WEARING A SEATBELT!!!! He SAW ME remove my seatbelt to retrieve my information, and I even was worried he'd try to give me a seatbelt ticket when he walked back to his car.
"But officer, you saw me remove my safety belt to get my registration and wallet."
"All I see is your seatbelt isnt on right now, so sign the ticket. Youre lucky Im not arresting you."
Now dont get me wrong folks, Im not against an officer doing his job. I was speeding (not dangerously, but I was over the posted limit) and got caught, fair is fair. Lumping on 2 bullshit tickets in addition though is just garbage. Following too closely, I guess thats up to him to decide, but he just f**ked me with the seatbelt ticket.
Now like I said, the speeding ticket was filled out incorrectly, and I can go back and take photos to prove that where I was pulled over it was a posted 40mph. My question is, do you guys think since he messed up on the speeding ticket (the more serious violation) that the court will be more likely to throw out the other tickets? I have a very clean driving record, 1 speeding ticket, 1 ticket for an expired tag, thats it.
You think its worth it to fight this guy, or should I just bite the bullett and chalk it up as a horrible loss?
I appreciate any input, just let me know what you would do in my shoes.
Oh and before people start bashing me for speeding on public roads, come to Miami and drive the speed limit, you'll be rear ended within an hour. The speed limit here is the flow of traffic.
Just as Im about to clear the Semi I hear a siren and see lights in my rearview. I pull it over and take off my seatbelt to get my wallet out and to get my registration from the glovebox.
The officer immediatly tells me he wants to arrest me for wreckless driving, speeding, and following too closely. I admit I had been speeding a bit, but tell him that I was following closely both because we had just left a red light, and because I was attempting to pass the semi.
He takes my info, and goes back to his car to write me up.
He returns and tells me he's giving me 3 tickets, and is giving me a warning on the 'Wreckless Driving' he witnessed.
First ticket is for going 63mph in a 35 (actually a posted 40, not 20 feet from where I was pulled over)
Second ticket is following too closely (like I said, we had JUST left a red light and I was making a pass)
Third ticket is for NOT WEARING A SEATBELT!!!! He SAW ME remove my seatbelt to retrieve my information, and I even was worried he'd try to give me a seatbelt ticket when he walked back to his car.
"But officer, you saw me remove my safety belt to get my registration and wallet."
"All I see is your seatbelt isnt on right now, so sign the ticket. Youre lucky Im not arresting you."
Now dont get me wrong folks, Im not against an officer doing his job. I was speeding (not dangerously, but I was over the posted limit) and got caught, fair is fair. Lumping on 2 bullshit tickets in addition though is just garbage. Following too closely, I guess thats up to him to decide, but he just f**ked me with the seatbelt ticket.
Now like I said, the speeding ticket was filled out incorrectly, and I can go back and take photos to prove that where I was pulled over it was a posted 40mph. My question is, do you guys think since he messed up on the speeding ticket (the more serious violation) that the court will be more likely to throw out the other tickets? I have a very clean driving record, 1 speeding ticket, 1 ticket for an expired tag, thats it.
You think its worth it to fight this guy, or should I just bite the bullett and chalk it up as a horrible loss?
I appreciate any input, just let me know what you would do in my shoes.
Oh and before people start bashing me for speeding on public roads, come to Miami and drive the speed limit, you'll be rear ended within an hour. The speed limit here is the flow of traffic.
WRECKLESS driving is driving without wrecks.
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02-20-2007 | 10:09 AM
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02-20-2007 | 10:16 AM
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all i have to say is why the heck did you take off your seatbelt, if he asks you to step out of the car, take off the seatbelt. And like you said you were speeding around the curve. the only questionable thing here is the following too closely and thats debatable. Learn a lesson (watch the roads like a hawk before you start playing with the car).
02-20-2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by V_for_velocity
"Wreckless" driving is a good thing, dude. It means you didn't have a wreck. But "reckless" -- that's another kettle of tuna fish.
02-20-2007 | 08:12 PM
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yea yea, haha, I mispelled reckless.
Honestly though, you'd think if the officer saw you take the seatbelt off to get into your glovebox that youre safe... the guy did it to be a *****, not because I was in the wrong.
Lesson learned though, never take off my seatbelt unless asked to exit the vehicle.
Just sucks man, like I said, its not the speeding ticket that is bumming me, its the fact that he intentionally screwed me.
Honestly though, you'd think if the officer saw you take the seatbelt off to get into your glovebox that youre safe... the guy did it to be a *****, not because I was in the wrong.
Lesson learned though, never take off my seatbelt unless asked to exit the vehicle.
Just sucks man, like I said, its not the speeding ticket that is bumming me, its the fact that he intentionally screwed me.
02-21-2007 | 10:58 AM
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W.E. dude, you dont expect a police officer to lie to your face. I think just about every other person in this board is guilty of removing their seatbelt to reach into the glovebox at one time or another.
It NOT my fault that he lied. When I removed my seatbelt the engine was off, key was out of the ignition. Therefore, I was not OPERATING a vehicle, therefore it doesnt matter if my seatbelt was on or not. I dont see how its my fault that he lied, but if it helps you sleep at night...
It very easy to say its my fault when your not in my shoes.
It NOT my fault that he lied. When I removed my seatbelt the engine was off, key was out of the ignition. Therefore, I was not OPERATING a vehicle, therefore it doesnt matter if my seatbelt was on or not. I dont see how its my fault that he lied, but if it helps you sleep at night...
It very easy to say its my fault when your not in my shoes.
02-21-2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFL_RX8
W.E. dude, you dont expect a police officer to lie to your face. I think just about every other person in this board is guilty of removing their seatbelt to reach into the glovebox at one time or another.
You had an unfortunate day, but the idea that you're getting all mad at everyone because you did something that is incredibly stupid (taking off your seatbelt) is a bad idea. Just learn from this and move on.
02-21-2007 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
I could not possibly disagree more. Police lie all the time. They are legally allowed to do so to get people to confess to crimes. And I would never, ever take my seatbelt off if I got pulled over without being expressly told to do so.
You had an unfortunate day, but the idea that you're getting all mad at everyone because you did something that is incredibly stupid (taking off your seatbelt) is a bad idea. Just learn from this and move on.
You had an unfortunate day, but the idea that you're getting all mad at everyone because you did something that is incredibly stupid (taking off your seatbelt) is a bad idea. Just learn from this and move on.
02-21-2007 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFL_RX8
W.E. dude, you dont expect a police officer to lie to your face. I think just about every other person in this board is guilty of removing their seatbelt to reach into the glovebox at one time or another.
It NOT my fault that he lied. When I removed my seatbelt the engine was off, key was out of the ignition. Therefore, I was not OPERATING a vehicle, therefore it doesnt matter if my seatbelt was on or not. I dont see how its my fault that he lied, but if it helps you sleep at night...
It very easy to say its my fault when your not in my shoes.
It NOT my fault that he lied. When I removed my seatbelt the engine was off, key was out of the ignition. Therefore, I was not OPERATING a vehicle, therefore it doesnt matter if my seatbelt was on or not. I dont see how its my fault that he lied, but if it helps you sleep at night...
It very easy to say its my fault when your not in my shoes.
Also, did you have your belt on when he first came up to the window? If you didn't you really slit your own throat in that regard.
02-21-2007 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
And you felt the need to repeat this because....
Gee, I guess i missed one of the 47 posts in this thread. Ugh, now it's 48.
02-21-2007 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueRenesis82
actually if i am pulled over, I expect the officer to say whatever he feels he has to to try and get me to admit that I was breaking the law. Anything you say they WILL hang you with, so the smart person will say as little as possible, and then get a traffic attorney.
Also, did you have your belt on when he first came up to the window? If you didn't you really slit your own throat in that regard.
Also, did you have your belt on when he first came up to the window? If you didn't you really slit your own throat in that regard.
Like I said, I removed it right in front of him. He even saw me struggle to reach the glovebox with it on, and then remove it.
The only reason Im snapping at people is cause Im being seen as an idiot for something any one of you would have done. Thats like calling me an idiot for turning off the car when he pulled me over without him asking me to.