for anyone looking at the 8 that has not yet bought one
#28
You know RX8-Newb, you've made it very clear how much you hate this car. It's slow, you got eaten by a Civic, it's falling apart.....and you keep posting it over, and over, and over again- kind of like you're deliberately trying to start a flame war. Why, exactly, is this?
#29
Buying any used vehicle is a gamble...Chickenwafer is the latest 8 owner in AZMC who just had his motor replaced and it was no doubt due to a previous owner not taking care of the car.
Sure the RX8 has quite a few TSB's but I'm glad that Mazda has allowed these issues to be handled under warranty instead of sticking it to the owner. Any production vehicle is going to have lemons, and some just can't be fixed.
I'm 26 years old and my RX8 is the second car I've owned...my previous vehicle had 160,000 miles on it and except for some electrical ghosts it is mechanically sound. I've got 44,000 on my 05 Rx8 and it runs better every year!
Bottom line is, drive the car like it's meant to be driven...give it the best care, fluids, parts and love you can and it will last forever. Wash it once a week, store it properly and deal with problems right away. I've also been pre-mixing for 10,000 miles and have used Royal Purple since 6,000 miles.
I'm one person, but no complaints here except for the tranny grinds in 2nd sometimes.
Sure the RX8 has quite a few TSB's but I'm glad that Mazda has allowed these issues to be handled under warranty instead of sticking it to the owner. Any production vehicle is going to have lemons, and some just can't be fixed.
I'm 26 years old and my RX8 is the second car I've owned...my previous vehicle had 160,000 miles on it and except for some electrical ghosts it is mechanically sound. I've got 44,000 on my 05 Rx8 and it runs better every year!
Bottom line is, drive the car like it's meant to be driven...give it the best care, fluids, parts and love you can and it will last forever. Wash it once a week, store it properly and deal with problems right away. I've also been pre-mixing for 10,000 miles and have used Royal Purple since 6,000 miles.
I'm one person, but no complaints here except for the tranny grinds in 2nd sometimes.
#30
Another thing....people aren't going to just create posts about how great their car is running. It's way easier to complain...that's why there are way more 'complaining' threads than threads talking about how their car is running great, and that they haven't had any problems. It does seem like there are a few 8's out there that have more problems than the rest of us.
#31
well even though he might BS alot but what he saying right now could still be true, because we all know that rx8 is not a perfect matter of fact no car is perfect. there are some 8s out there has their motor rebuild or replaced many times im not surprised. so he might just be the unlucky one.
What Im trying to say is every single lineup out there has their own engine problems, dont make it like only Rotary engines can have *bad engine*. IT can happen to anybody.
you are just one of the people who gets a mess up engine, if we make a poll and see how many people had their engine replace or rebuild im sure there are whole bunch. so is very understandable, i know it sucks that is you.
if you paid attention, you should notice that, if the user replaced their engines b4 from Mazda, he will get another one soon, so what Im thinking is, either Mazda reman really suck. or there is something else in that car which triggered the problem over and over, its just that no one knows what it is.
People who rebuild and replace their own engines, like MM and CRH, has no problem tho
you are right, he just start hating the car. i like most of the things and feature about the 8. of course i wish it can make more mpg, and the door panel is plastic but thats pretty much it. i don't mind the car is slow, i really didnt buy the car to go fast anyway, and most of you didn't either. the best thing he should do right now is to sell his car and buy another car. (my wrx is for sale)
#32
hmm... its not the lack of torque that makes it feel slow, its the lack of poewr... I am sorry, i have owned faster ( i will not say fast ) cars and a very fast bike, i know what speed is. I dont find inadvertant speeding cool, if you get a ticket for 70 in a 55 because it was soo smooth then it will not be so sweet.
I would actually love to have another wrx, my grandfather actually got one several years back , about the same time i got mine. I am trying to buy his. I regeret getting rid of it soooo bad. I sold it because i had it timed out to be paid off in a little under 4 years when i was getting out of the military, but i got stationed back in america from germany and lost 1k a month so i was panicing about not having enough money for the $475 car note. If i would have just had mac & cheese to eat for a year i would now be out of the military with a paid off fast as hell wrx. With only 3 bolt ons i was able to pull a 13.4 et in that thing. Its funny after i sold it 4 months later i picked up a room mate and all my money troubles went away from splitting bills, weird how things work out
I would actually love to have another wrx, my grandfather actually got one several years back , about the same time i got mine. I am trying to buy his. I regeret getting rid of it soooo bad. I sold it because i had it timed out to be paid off in a little under 4 years when i was getting out of the military, but i got stationed back in america from germany and lost 1k a month so i was panicing about not having enough money for the $475 car note. If i would have just had mac & cheese to eat for a year i would now be out of the military with a paid off fast as hell wrx. With only 3 bolt ons i was able to pull a 13.4 et in that thing. Its funny after i sold it 4 months later i picked up a room mate and all my money troubles went away from splitting bills, weird how things work out
#34
The notion of speed really interests me when it comes to this car. Having bought the RX8 and trying to survive in a crowd of Evo's and WRX's I came to hear the "torqueless wonder" calling several times.
Still, my friends found that the only way they could wind out their vehicles was doing 130 mph+ on public roads making out of control moves on off/on ramps. This resulted in being chased by the police and all sorts of other trouble.
I'm not saying th OP is reckless, but unless your looking for a track monster car of which I didn't see any mention I have a hard time seeing anyone being able to fully enjoy their 300 + WHP vehicle doing anything but punching it at the stop light or doing something that will get them thrown in jail.
I like the RX8 for the fact that I can go full out, wrap out the motor but not have to worry about going to jail doing it.
Plus, and this is just my opinion, I've always felt the excessive technology present in the AWD vehicles takes some of the skill and driver out of the mix. Sure you need someone to handle the car but there's something about RWD....
Hey, it's not the car for everyone. I feel like I found my niche so I get confused when I see people saying the 8 is slow, unresponsive, and not reliable.
Still, my friends found that the only way they could wind out their vehicles was doing 130 mph+ on public roads making out of control moves on off/on ramps. This resulted in being chased by the police and all sorts of other trouble.
I'm not saying th OP is reckless, but unless your looking for a track monster car of which I didn't see any mention I have a hard time seeing anyone being able to fully enjoy their 300 + WHP vehicle doing anything but punching it at the stop light or doing something that will get them thrown in jail.
I like the RX8 for the fact that I can go full out, wrap out the motor but not have to worry about going to jail doing it.
Plus, and this is just my opinion, I've always felt the excessive technology present in the AWD vehicles takes some of the skill and driver out of the mix. Sure you need someone to handle the car but there's something about RWD....
Hey, it's not the car for everyone. I feel like I found my niche so I get confused when I see people saying the 8 is slow, unresponsive, and not reliable.
#35
hmm... its not the lack of torque that makes it feel slow, its the lack of poewr... I am sorry, i have owned faster ( i will not say fast ) cars and a very fast bike, i know what speed is. I dont find inadvertant speeding cool, if you get a ticket for 70 in a 55 because it was soo smooth then it will not be so sweet.
I would actually love to have another wrx, my grandfather actually got one several years back , about the same time i got mine. I am trying to buy his. I regeret getting rid of it soooo bad. I sold it because i had it timed out to be paid off in a little under 4 years when i was getting out of the military, but i got stationed back in america from germany and lost 1k a month so i was panicing about not having enough money for the $475 car note. If i would have just had mac & cheese to eat for a year i would now be out of the military with a paid off fast as hell wrx. With only 3 bolt ons i was able to pull a 13.4 et in that thing. Its funny after i sold it 4 months later i picked up a room mate and all my money troubles went away from splitting bills, weird how things work out
I would actually love to have another wrx, my grandfather actually got one several years back , about the same time i got mine. I am trying to buy his. I regeret getting rid of it soooo bad. I sold it because i had it timed out to be paid off in a little under 4 years when i was getting out of the military, but i got stationed back in america from germany and lost 1k a month so i was panicing about not having enough money for the $475 car note. If i would have just had mac & cheese to eat for a year i would now be out of the military with a paid off fast as hell wrx. With only 3 bolt ons i was able to pull a 13.4 et in that thing. Its funny after i sold it 4 months later i picked up a room mate and all my money troubles went away from splitting bills, weird how things work out
HP is all you're after anyway,why dont you do us a favor and sell your 8 and get yourself a Rustang instead ?
#36
The wrx is not a great handling car it only has 2 diff's as opposed to the 3 on the evo and sti. So the front wheels are just an open. Its really just 3 wheel drive lol. I had my wrx in germany, and it came in handy there, never really worrying about if i should drive the car or not. The feeling of security is nice. How many of you can say you could drive your 8 in on a damp road, with a "spirited" driving style with the dsc off and survive on a twisty road. My old wrx had no traction control except for a center diff and rear diff, and me controling the inputs. I can say i would NEVER drive my car with the dsc off on a public road if there is any water on the roads, the *** end kicks out over bumps if the suspension is under load. But on the other hand that is one of the few things i love about this car. The feeling of having to stay "on your toes" when driving. It always makes you pay attention to how you drive. There are things i absolutely love about this car, like the feel, steering, and brakes. But i cant always use those to their fullest, and when i am not hauling *** around a hairpin i notice the things like the creeks, lose panels, and all the other little things. I am sorry but you cant haul *** in curves everywhere. So i guess the nusances are starting to be more abundant than the joys of this car.
#37
Yeah your right i should have test driven a 350z they have more power look almost as good and handle about the same. I just did not have the extra money for one. I was coming from a 1995 golf with 90 hp anyway so when i first got it felt fast. Kinda like 3 years ago when i got my bike and it felt so damn fast, then after the 18k miles i put on it one season of riding, the 95 whp on something that weighed about 400 pounds was just not as fast feeling. I could do 160 in that and it would feel normal and going from 0-100 in a matter of seconds just did not seem fast anymore either. You get used to the speed. Oh well, and like i said before i can deal with the straight line speed not being what i was used to, if the car had no issues, and i could depend on it to start every time and not worry about things falling apart. As i said in the begining of this thread.
#39
Yeah your right i should have test driven a 350z they have more power look almost as good and handle about the same. I just did not have the extra money for one. I was coming from a 1995 golf with 90 hp anyway so when i first got it felt fast. Kinda like 3 years ago when i got my bike and it felt so damn fast, then after the 18k miles i put on it one season of riding, the 95 whp on something that weighed about 400 pounds was just not as fast feeling. I could do 160 in that and it would feel normal and going from 0-100 in a matter of seconds just did not seem fast anymore either. You get used to the speed. Oh well, and like i said before i can deal with the straight line speed not being what i was used to, if the car had no issues, and i could depend on it to start every time and not worry about things falling apart. As i said in the begining of this thread.
All you talk about is how 8 sucks and its falling apart, not a single word about you're the smart one who got a used car. The only person to blame is you
and u make it sound like you can drive fast, sorry but it takes more skills to control a car going 100 mph in curves than driving a bike @ 160mph in curves. I've been there and I know its true.
Obviously you still have no idea how to drive this car the way it was meant to be driven. So please do us a big favor, sell the car and move on to your wrx dreams.
#40
i am sorry i forgot i am talking to a bunch of race car drivers that have nothing better to do than sit at home on their computer. So explain it to me please how do you go about driving the 8 fast? I would love to hear about it. Your right i am not a race car driver, nor have i ever said i am a badass driver. I would also like to hear about how something that has far more traction is harder to drive than something with less traction. everyone knows cars can turn better, brake better, and are safer than bikes. only things bikes do superior to fast cars is accelerate quickly. And dont try to compare an R1 against an rx8 plz, and tell me how motorcycles are faster than cars.
#41
i am sorry i forgot i am talking to a bunch of race car drivers that have nothing better to do than sit at home on their computer. So explain it to me please how do you go about driving the 8 fast? I would love to hear about it. Your right i am not a race car driver, nor have i ever said i am a badass driver. I would also like to hear about how something that has far more traction is harder to drive than something with less traction. everyone knows cars can turn better, brake better, and are safer than bikes. only things bikes do superior to fast cars is accelerate quickly. And dont try to compare an R1 against an rx8 plz, and tell me how motorcycles are faster than cars.
and is it easy to control a 3000+ lbs object ? Sure increase traction. You forgot the weight? when u're going 100 mph with a 3000 lbs object.
bike is not faster than cars ? .... hmm .... they're faster in fact, cuz its easier to control. at least when you compare to a 3000+ pounds object.
Please just sell your car. I mean seriously, do us ALL a favor. PLEASE !
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#42
I like my RX8. 31K with no mechanical issues. Never flooded. Tail lights replaced? Oh yea!
I test drove the 350Z Track Ed and then the RX8. I purchased the RX8 for the extra seats, nicer interior, and higher RPMs. The Track Z had torque and power to the max, but for me wasn't as pleasing to drive.
BTW, I had to clear out my garage of 2 280ZXs and 1 240Z to make room for the RX8. No regrets.
I test drove the 350Z Track Ed and then the RX8. I purchased the RX8 for the extra seats, nicer interior, and higher RPMs. The Track Z had torque and power to the max, but for me wasn't as pleasing to drive.
BTW, I had to clear out my garage of 2 280ZXs and 1 240Z to make room for the RX8. No regrets.
#43
Okay what happens when you lose traction in your car? You most likely know because you can do this when you want at low speeds and practice how to recover all day in a parking lot and never get hurt. Now try to practice this in a bike. Oh wait, you cant. Because you are on 2 wheels you cant mess around in a parking lot at 10mph sliding around on 2 wheels to get the hang of it. If you lose traction in a bike around a corner at speed, you will have to keep the back tire spinning, but not too much because then the back will swing out and you will panic and let off the gas and high side and launched over the bike and die, so if you have enough experiance to keep your reflexes in check then you can control this ever so carefully and slowly bring the wheel speed back to the speed of that you are traveling. If you panic and hit the brakes you lose the front end and crash, if you panic and let off you will lhigh side and the majority of those end in death on the streets. If you give it too much gas you will lose the back end and low side and crash. so yes a 400 lbs bike traveling at 100 mph is more involving than sitting in a seat surrounded by airbags, roll cages, and strapped in with a seat belt. I dont recall having to lean out the door when going around left hand corners. Up until this point i had thought that you were just defensive and did not care for my opinion now you are just being dumb. And you are again an idiot because i did not say compare an rx-8 to an r1. A 360 would eat my bike on a track. I can recall seeing a porsche cup car racing a WSB straight up around DONINGTON PARK and he got beat, this is just to further emphisize my point, but the arial atom demolished a cbbr 600rr in top gear. An R6 is a RACE REPLICA bike. So is an R1, so yeah against an rx8 the bike is gonna win.
And you still have not given me the secret to being the faster driver in an rx-8 apparently you hold the key...
And you still have not given me the secret to being the faster driver in an rx-8 apparently you hold the key...
#44
and oh yeah cars are so much harder, that traction control can the car pointing down the road damn near who ever drives it. Up until this year you could not get a sport bike with TC, the new zx10 has it now, but this is a bike innovation for yor normal sport bikes.
#46
Actually...this dudes been around awhile, so I know he's not a Troll and I do remember him, but he does need to chill out, sell the car for whatever he can get..............and then maybe just go away.
Last edited by Mazurfer; 01-20-2008 at 09:05 AM.
#48
Now Im starting to feel that you hate this car because u suck at driving, not because of the problems. Who is there to blame? again and again, yourself.
Cars have more systems because there are simply WAY more people drive cars than your 2 wheeler. Have you ever heard of Supply and Demand you moron ? Will you invest massive amounts of money into something that has like what 1/10000 of the market share ?
You still havent answer my questions, you took a gamble and lost. who is there to blame ? want me to answer it for you one more time?
#49
so that makes you a good driver, leaving your dsc off for no real reason. Why do you have to turn it off when you are going to work or to get some food? Talk about unneeded risk. If a deer runs out in front of you and you swerve with the dsc off and over correct and go off the road and hit some lady checking her mail at the mail box, I would love to see you explain that one. Your right the dsc can hinder you if you know what you are doing, but if you are not driving at 90% + then what is the point in turning it off. Atleast on a motorcycle you have to think more about risk management and the benefits of taking more risk, i guess you will continue to drive like that endagering lives until you kill yourself or someone. Hopefully it will jst be yourself...else...
#50
and if you are quick enough you can catch the back before the dsc kicks in, i started a thread about this a long time ago. The back swings out for a sec before the dsc steps in. So if your reactions are quick enough you will catch it first.